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Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:03 PM

White House calls NRA ad "repugnant and cowardly"

Source: Reuters

"Most Americans agree that a president's children should not be used as pawns in a political fight. But to go so far as to make the safety of the president's children the subject of an attack ad is repugnant and cowardly," White House spokesman Jay Carney said

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/16/us-usa-guns-obama-nra-idUSBRE90F12W20130116



The NRA is the enemy. If you send money to the NRA or support the NRA, you too are the enemy.

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Reply White House calls NRA ad "repugnant and cowardly" (Original post)
geek tragedy Jan 2013 OP
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #1
NBachers Jan 2013 #2
progressivebydesign Jan 2013 #15
GoCubsGo Jan 2013 #31
llmart Jan 2013 #3
SoapBox Jan 2013 #4
TPaine7 Jan 2013 #5
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #6
TPaine7 Jan 2013 #16
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #18
randome Jan 2013 #7
October Jan 2013 #9
IDemo Jan 2013 #10
CranialRectaLoopback Jan 2013 #14
TPaine7 Jan 2013 #17
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #20
HangOnKids Jan 2013 #24
thucythucy Jan 2013 #26
Politicub Jan 2013 #23
HangOnKids Jan 2013 #25
Geodude Jan 2013 #29
TPaine7 Jan 2013 #32
Historic NY Jan 2013 #40
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #30
TPaine7 Jan 2013 #33
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #47
oldbanjo Jan 2013 #35
AAO Jan 2013 #38
pnwmom Jan 2013 #41
TPaine7 Jan 2013 #43
blackspade Jan 2013 #8
AsahinaKimi Jan 2013 #11
Berlum Jan 2013 #12
progressivebydesign Jan 2013 #13
Erose999 Jan 2013 #28
Jennicut Jan 2013 #19
SAY Jan 2013 #21
xxqqqzme Jan 2013 #22
rightsideout Jan 2013 #27
Scurrilous Jan 2013 #34
tavalon Jan 2013 #36
CarmanK Jan 2013 #37
packman Jan 2013 #39
TPaine7 Jan 2013 #42
Phillip McCleod Jan 2013 #44
Pholus Jan 2013 #46
ReRe Jan 2013 #45

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:08 PM

1. Perfect choice of words..repugnant and cowardly. K&R

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:17 PM

2. My god- every mother, every father, every grandparent, every aunt, uncle, brother or sister

every decent human being- needs to recoil in disgust against the threats the NRA has made against President Obama's daughters Malia and Shasha.

It's time to disarm these NRA terrorists and stand up, as a nation, against them.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:56 PM

15. Considering the death threats that the man in Sandy Hook is getting now, you're right.

there was that kindly retired psychologist who took in 6 little kids from the Sandy Hook shooting, after they arrived on his driveway saying that their teacher was shot. He calmed them down and cared for them until their parents came. He was featured in the media, and was clearly devastated by the shooting. The extreme gun lobby and fans have decided that the man was "in on the conspiracy" and that Sandy Hook was done by the govt or multiple shooters, to use as a flashpoint so Obama could take their guns. Now? The poor man has been receiving tons of death threats, threatening calls, messages. They have posted pics of his home, with his address, and pics of his family.

As if the rational people out there don't get EXACTLY what those people, and now the NRA are trying to make happen. It's obvious, and it's sick. The NRA needs to have their tax status revoked, and LaPierre needs to be in jail.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:37 PM

31. LaPierre isn't the only one who belongs in jail.

So does every single one of those assholes who called this man and threatened him. Ditto for this college professor who started this bullshit about the shooting being faked. And, every talk radio/TV host who is also purveying this shit.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:21 PM

3. It's not just the ad that is repugnant and cowardly....

it's the entire NRA. I just want to see them go away already. Let's help make them the pariahs they should be.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:24 PM

4. NRA = Domestic Terrorists

We need a IRS investigation about them.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:00 PM

5. It is repugnant and cowardly to prevent anyone's children from being protected by guns if needed. nt

 

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:03 PM

6. NRA propaganda bullsh!t. Shove it, gungeoneer troll, nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:09 PM

16. Your logic is most impressive. nt

 

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:11 PM

18. So is your parroting NRA propaganda. Brain-dead cheerleading

for a rightwing nutjob organization deserves scorn, not respect.

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:08 PM

7. And no one is doing that.

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:21 PM

9. Your point?

Seriously, is there a point to your post? Please explain how anyone is preventing anyone from protecting their child - with guns or without? Very lame, really.

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:23 PM

10. Isn't typing difficult with cold, dead hands?

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:55 PM

14. Thomas Paine? Aren't you clever.

 

You do know the origins of the 2nd Amendment were to preserve the slave patrol, also known as the militia, in the South.

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Response to CranialRectaLoopback (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:10 PM

17. Yawn...

 

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:11 PM

20. That's how we Democrats feel about you wingnut NRA trolls. nt

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:59 PM

24. Thanks For Kicking The Thread

 

Keep going TPaine!

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:14 PM

26. "Your logic is most impressive." Nt.

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:50 PM

23. Are you on the payroll?

Or do you just like carrying water for the NRA?

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:01 PM

29. The POTUS should be skeptical

considering the sorts of armed personal the gun-nuts say will protect schools. Joe Arpaio, a popular Arizona sheriff and outspoken gun-rights advocates, says that he will organized an armed posse of volunteers to protect his county's schools (i.e. underempoyed gun enthusiasts). Others have suggested that custodians be armed.

Also, looking at the Fort Hood incident, more guns does not guarantee safety.

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Response to Geodude (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:06 PM

32. In the Fort Hood incident, the shooting victims were disarmed. The soldiers weren't allowed to be

 

armed.

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:50 PM

40. Fully armed presence in military police and guards....

no post allows soldier to walk around with weapons when not needed. The shooter came from an off base apt where he had the weapons. You knew that didn't you, and you know the miltiary has regulations against personal weapons being carried. Had the Major been living in government housing on base he wouldn't have had access to them, they would have been secured. Had the gate guards completely search each vehicle the weapons probably wouldn't have gotten onto the post. A civilian no matter what is prohibited from carrying on post. The shooter was stopped by those carrying on their duties, the military police.. But you knew all this before you decided to post.

Since the shooting all personally owned weapons now must be registered with the military police. I know in some case the even secure them, that is dependant on the base commanders rules.

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:12 PM

30. Don't pretend to be so stupid that you don't know 4 presidents have been killed by guns in office.nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:07 PM

33. Don't pretend to be illiterate. My post wasn't about Presidents being personally protected. nt

 

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:57 PM

47. I read your post just fine. All the Presidents' children are protected because the President is.

Threats against Obama are running four time (4x) higher than against any previous president. His family has been specifically threatened.

Any family members in a family receiving that quantity of death threats and threats of harm should receive the same protection.

99.99 % or higher of other children, not so much.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:24 PM

35. One of those Presidents was having rulers of other Countries knocked off,

after his death they changed the rules and stopped what he was doing.

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:31 PM

38. And who is doing that?

 

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:40 AM

41. In this country, children are more likely to be killed by guns in than protected by them. n/t

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:18 PM

8. Disgusting ad.

The NRA has become an organization of trolls and buffoons.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:43 PM

11. Maybe the NRA

Should be made fully aware of who is running this country.. In the get a clue department, its not the NRA.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:49 PM

12. Republicans have sunk to the lowest moral level

Shame on them. Republicans and their allied institutions -- the NRA, etc. -- are profoundly debased, and so far away from any Biblical ethics (which they like to claim) that Christ should he return would take up a stick and drive them from the temple of this Great American Nation.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:52 PM

13. The NRA is mounting a full scale war on the President right now.

I've never seen anything like this... they've gone completely insane. I KNOW that it's because the $$$$$$ that comes from selling the millions of weapons that NRA has been pushing with their fear-mongering tactics. The NRA is not about membership and a love of guns, it's about $$$$ for the manufacturers. It's simply the PR department for them. They cause panic in the angry old paranoids, so they buy more weapons. People are bemoaning the rise in gun crimes since 2008, well... they refuse to acknowledge the one FACT that is out there: The gun lobby and their talking heads, have whipped up a paranoid frenzy that has resulted in an insane number of new guns purchased in the US. The guns are not making anyone safer, they are making it more unsafe.

The NRA needs to lose their tax free status NOW. I'm tired of subsidizing fuckheads like that.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:24 PM

28. You can't sell guns without fear and/or hate. Because your not selling the gun, you're selling the


need for it.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:11 PM

19. Pretty much sums it up.

To win a public argument, you don't bring in the politician's kids into the argument. Then you have already lost. It is very cowardly.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:24 PM

21. save money

 

Would it not be cheaper for the presidents kids to home school

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Response to SAY (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:39 PM

22. Great idea! How about confining them

to the White House for the duration of their father's term?





If necessary -

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Response to SAY (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:26 PM

27. It's not about money

It's about the kids having as normal a childhood as possible. They need to interact with others not be held captive in the White House all day.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:10 PM

34. K & R

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:26 PM

36. It's not like all that fancy protection helped Reagan

Straw man argument and repugnant and cowardly.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:41 PM

37. Despicable conduct which endagers every child in the school Sasha & Malia attend.

it is a national disgrace and now we know that the lives of children are not more important than guns.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:04 PM

39. Guns and money

I wondered about the dramatic increase in guns and ammunition. It just seems contrary to what should be happening - then it struck me, this is nothing more than entrepreneurs taking advantage of a tragedy. They are stockpiling to sell the rifles and ammunition someday in the future in the black market which is sure to come about. Buy a few rifles for a few thousand today, sell them for profit in the future. It's just a commodity, like the gold they are hiding under the floorboards.

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #42)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:47 AM

44. only you and the nra could twist the white house's statement that way.

 

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Response to TPaine7 (Reply #42)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:00 AM

46. Thanks for admitting the NRA is a set of political exploiters.


They are morally bankrupt buffoons and the absolute worst bottom feeders in the country. That NRA ad smacked of desperation. When they resorted to it, it showed a lot of fence sitters just what pile of dung they'd drop into if they jump to the NRA side.

But let's use a little bit more "logic" to work our way through this conundrum.

Those poor dead kids who you're so worried about being exploited? They're onstage politically cause some gun toting freak killed them with guns that are only available because of 40 years of unrelenting NRA lobbying efforts paid for with NRA dues. It doesn't matter what the shooters mental state was. It matters on who made the guns available. That would be the NRA.

The president's kids? They're onstage because the NRA is feeling some political heat and resorted to a cheap stunt. One that even you admit has no basis in logical need.

Bottom line it. Who exploits (and kills) children? The NRA. Enough with the sophistry, people have had enough.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:13 AM

45. "Repugnant and cowardly"...

... and those were the nice words they agreed upon before Carney came out for the presser. God, I'd give anything to have been a fly on the wall. I wouldn't put it past someone to have put something through the wall, like a fist. You know, every time they open their mouths, they embolden PO and VPB. Every time, they become more and more determined to do what needs to be done.
NRA: Your. Ass. Is. Grass. (Respectfully of course!)

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