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Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:20 AM

House Democrats Revive Health Care Public Option To Reduce Deficit

Source: Talking Points Memo

The public option is back … sort of.

House Democrats on Tuesday introduced the “Public Option Deficit Reduction Act,” which would provide consumers the choice to opt into a government-run health insurance plan in the Obamacare exchanges.

The bill, which almost certainly cannot pass in the Republican-controlled House, is a mostly symbolic effort meant to keep the public option alive as a policy prescription. It is sponsored by Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), who is on the Energy & Commerce health subcommittee, along with Energy & Commerce Ranking Member Henry Waxman (D-CA) and 43 other lawmakers.

“The Public Option Deficit Reduction Act will give health care consumers more choice and lower their premiums,” said Schakowsky. “And, by providing a lower-cost alternative to private insurance, it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete.”

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/democrats-revive-public-option.php



YES!!!!

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antigop Jan 2013 OP
djean111 Jan 2013 #1
BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #32
peace frog Jan 2013 #42
BlueNoteSpecial Jan 2013 #2
tridim Jan 2013 #3
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #8
freshwest Jan 2013 #23
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #24
sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #43
gristy Jan 2013 #47
jberryhill Jan 2013 #51
DhhD Jan 2013 #4
Greybnk48 Jan 2013 #5
Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #61
dotymed Jan 2013 #6
Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #7
1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #9
duhneece Jan 2013 #10
JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #11
Scuba Jan 2013 #13
JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #15
PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #52
JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #60
Scuba Jan 2013 #12
yesphan Jan 2013 #14
Hutzpa Jan 2013 #16
Berlum Jan 2013 #17
annabanana Jan 2013 #18
thesquanderer Jan 2013 #19
antigop Jan 2013 #21
lark Jan 2013 #31
patrice Jan 2013 #20
joanbarnes Jan 2013 #22
patrice Jan 2013 #25
Doctor_J Jan 2013 #26
Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #27
truth2power Jan 2013 #28
MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #29
harun Jan 2013 #30
antigop Jan 2013 #33
go west young man Jan 2013 #34
SAY Jan 2013 #35
djean111 Jan 2013 #36
mac56 Jan 2013 #39
rhett o rick Jan 2013 #45
Politicub Jan 2013 #53
lovuian Jan 2013 #37
kenfrequed Jan 2013 #38
HuckleB Jan 2013 #40
jtuck004 Jan 2013 #41
gateley Jan 2013 #44
surrealAmerican Jan 2013 #46
silverweb Jan 2013 #48
Cleita Jan 2013 #49
antigop Jan 2013 #50
Politicub Jan 2013 #54
grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #55
lonestarnot Jan 2013 #56
snot Jan 2013 #57
greymattermom Jan 2013 #58
ReRe Jan 2013 #59
AlbertCat Jan 2013 #62
antigop Jan 2013 #63

Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:25 AM

1. Thank you!!!!

I was afraid there was going to be complacency about this sort of thing - but I want to see unrelenting pressure to make single payer be the logical outcome of the ACA because, as it stands, care ain't affordable, no matter if the government is picking up the tab or not.
Just because Obama doesn't have the ability to propose single payer (or so I have been told) that doesn't mean we should all sit quietly and praise the half a pony we got.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:32 PM

32. The Public Option is on its way!

For the DUers who haven't seen my many posts here regarding the public option that was buried within ObamaCare, here is an October 2012 NYT's article that reported that the Obama Admin has been quietly working at putting together two U.S. supported health care insurances three months before the election. Of course, had President Obama not won, this would have been moot.

But he has won, and thus we'll be getting a (according to the Heritage Foundation) "robust public option that liberals always wanted."

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:01 PM

42. Sign me up...

... and make it so.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:25 AM

2. Yes, the liar/denier caucus must be force fed truth & logic on a daily basis...

...We keep hammering, while they keep stammering, showing their true colors, outing themselves day, after day, after day. So, repukes, how do YOU like it, hmmmmm...?

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:26 AM

3. 2014 is going to be a very progressive year.

It just sucks we have to wait until the residual teafuckers get thrown out.

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Response to tridim (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:43 AM

8. amen to that!!

Oh please oh please !

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:35 AM

23. YES!!!!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:40 AM

24. I second that: please, oh please!

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Response to tridim (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:34 PM

43. They might maintain control

until the next census. Before then it would be wise to have a law in place that reduces gerrymandering by requiring Congressional districts to be in the shapes of regular polygons.

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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #43)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:48 PM

47. If only it could be so

And every angle in the boundary obtuse!

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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #43)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:09 PM

51. You can't tile a lot of states with "regular polygons"

I dunno if you are from Colorado or some such, but I would be happy if Justice O'Connor had better a better topological vocabulary than "reasonably compact".

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:32 AM

4. States not joining in the Medicaid Exchange by refusing to accept the ACA, could be the birth of

the Single Payer American health care system.

Texas governor has refused to set up Obamacare. Perhaps the birthplace of the single payer
system, instead of federal copay money to insurance companies, could be in Texas.

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Response to DhhD (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:35 AM

5. So has Scott Walker in Wisconsin.

I hope we get something here soon.

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Response to Greybnk48 (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:03 AM

61. And New Jersey...

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:40 AM

6. IMO, we need to pass a law that states (since obviously for profit insurance remains)

when these insurers get a large increase in the pool of people they are insuring, they must lower premiums to reflect this increase.
The law about spending a certain percentage on actual medical care (for the insurers) doesn't address the continued gouging of Americans paying increasingly large premiums. These health insurance companies according to current law, are obligated to maximize profits for their share holders...

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:43 AM

7. Yay!!!! nt

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:44 AM

9. I love it ...

So all those States that refused to set up/operate their exchanges would, if this measure passes, get the P/O!

I wonder ... why would legislation be necessary? Yes, it would require all states to offer it; but wouldn't the better approach be to include the P/O in the exchanges that the Federal Government sets up and runs? It could be done through the regulatory/administrative powers, already vested in the federal executive branch.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:45 AM

10. Who are these heroes?

I love them all for this.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:45 AM

11. What's the point?

This will never get out of committee, never see a vote. Is this a waste of time?

Or does it serve some purpose in the theater of politics?

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:48 AM

13. Make the R's block it and be seen as the defenders of the insurance companies.

It will resonate with the public in 2014.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:07 AM

15. Maybe WE should rise to the defense of insurance companies ...

... and let the Republicans force us into Single Payer.

If only that could work ...

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:20 PM

52. Same point as all those Obamacare repeal bills by the Republicans. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #52)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:48 AM

60. Exactly right. Pointless harrumphing.

Those Obamacare repeal bills just made the Republicans look sillier.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:47 AM

12. Make the R's block it and defend the insurance companies. Use that in 2014. Spine, baby, spine.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:56 AM

14. PODRA

Keep it alive !

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:08 AM

16. Wonderful News! nt.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:18 AM

17. Make it so

Republicans will remain BOUGHT AND SOLD on this by the freaking profit-making institutions which are a leech upon the nation, and we can expect Republicans to keep on LICKING MONEYBUCKS BOOT. As usual.

But there are enough decent people to make sure this common-sense, good-government, good health care, and economically prudent step is taken.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:21 AM

18. In the meantime.. funding for "non-profit" insurance companies was stripped

in the fiscal cliff negotiations.

Talk about your one-step forward two-steps back..

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:26 AM

19. Boehner wants some debt reduction to cooperate on the debt ceiling

This should be Obama's offer!

"Citing an earlier estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, Schakowsky expects it to reduce the deficit by some $100 billion over 10 years"

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:29 AM

21. Good idea. nt

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:06 PM

31. Obama is not for single payor

He removed it from even being discussed. I do believe he would sign a law with this in it, he just will not fight for it for one second.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:29 AM

20. BITE! it, Republicans! You call it free-market COMPETITION. We call it Justice!

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:34 AM

22. We NEED this. My whole family has 'affordable' employer-sponsored care we can't afford to use.

Never mind figuring out all the rules.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:46 AM

25. Over 2 years ago, Senator Sanders said on the Thom Hartmann show that this is a possibility. nt

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:53 AM

26. Calling the bully pulpit

Mr. President, time to jump on the bandwagon. Let this be your legacy instead of drones & pot crackdown.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:55 AM

27. Maybe the Democrats should vite 33 times and offer bill for Congress members

To be on the same plan they voted for us, or better yet het them used to Medicare.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:00 PM

28. I love this! Even tho' it's only symbolic...

A for-profit corporation shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a healthcare system.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:03 PM

29. Great! Keep it up!

 

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:24 PM

30. I am happy to see them keep fighting for this. They should never give this fight up.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:03 PM

33. kick nt

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 02:29 PM

34. Kick! Kick! Kick!

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:16 PM

35. I changed my mind

 

I have changed my mind I can retire early not having to work for health care thank you obama

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Response to SAY (Reply #35)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:48 PM

36. Why wouldn't you have to work for health care?

Even Medicare and Medicaid (single-payer) have a premium.
Or were you being deliberately obtuse?
And are you comfy with a death panel consisting of private insurers and employers?
What did you change your mind about?

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Response to SAY (Reply #35)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:59 PM

39. You changed your WHAT?!

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Response to SAY (Reply #35)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:13 PM

45. Very strange post. What does Pres Obama have to do with the OP? nm

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Response to SAY (Reply #35)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:28 PM

53. Rofl. You joined to post that?

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:41 PM

37. Awesome It has to be done

It is obvious all over the world Universal coverage is the way to bring down costs

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:44 PM

38. Awesome!

Ok, I know it isn't like to get traction but we have to keep putting this back on the table! As often as it takes!

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:01 PM

40. Best news I've seen all day!

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:00 PM

41. It's the most humane thing to do, and it gives us the best return for our money.


It strengthens our nation, and frees our citizens to pursue business, research, art, education with much less of a barrier than before. The gains to us, the ROI as it were, are overwhelming.

A nation which pays private individuals to profit from the health care of its citizens will always and forever be weaker than one who funds it as a needed public investment.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:19 PM

44. If we could message it correctly and get the public clamoring for it...

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:29 PM

46. Jan Schakowsky's right ...

... but I doubt there's even one Republican who would vote for this.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:38 PM

48. K&R!!

Make it so!



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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:41 PM

49. If only, but the insurance industry will find a way to make it

seem like a crackpot idea. I don't feel our Democrats are being entirely honest either. I think they are just using it as a pawn and know it doesn't have a chance in Hell.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #49)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:02 PM

50. gotta keep hope alive, Cleita! nt

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:29 PM

54. This will come one day

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:26 PM

55. C'mon prez....!

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:28 PM

56. Woooooodamnwhoooooooooooo!

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:11 AM

57. An outbreak of sanity??

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:25 AM

58. name game

You have to love the name of this bill. Finally, democrats are getting the sound bite right. Republicans will have to vote against deficit reduction if they vote against it.

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:45 AM

59. Hallelujah!!!!!

Yeah, it won't pass, but it will keep some common sense in the air. Frankly, if the Republicans hang themselves in the next couple years and get there arrses kicked out of Congress, and we are at the helm once again in 2014, I say go all the way. Medicare for all. Period. Boy, wouldn't that burn the powers that be! I'm doing the Snoopy Dance just thinking about it. Cheers to Schakowsky and Waxman!

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Response to antigop (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:39 AM

62. If only my friend Paul were here to see this

He died on the 3rd of pneumonia and congestive heart failure. He was feeling bad for days. He waited to go to the hospital because he couldn't afford insurance.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #62)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:50 AM

63. so sorry, AlbertCat. These types of stories infuriate me. We can do much better as a country. nt

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