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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:58 PM

Biden Gun Policy Recommendations Include Federal Trafficking Law

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- As part of a comprehensive package of proposals, Vice President Joseph Biden is recommending a law that could define gun trafficking as a federal crime, two sources close to the vice president's gun policy task force process told the Huffington Post

Two other sources close to the task force said Biden's team reacted favorably during earlier discussions to including a gun trafficking recommendation. The White House declined to discuss the matter.

The language of the proposed law isn't known. Nor is it clear if the administration will suggest a statute itself, or let Congress fill in the blanks.

Gun control advocates said they were heartened by the prospects of a federal trafficking law, having warned for years that the absence of such a statue aids the illegal flow of firearms.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/biden-gun-policy_n_2475744.html



Hear that gun show fucks? Your straw purchasing bread and butter is slipping away.

Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Tick-tock.

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Reply Biden Gun Policy Recommendations Include Federal Trafficking Law (Original post)
onehandle Jan 2013 OP
Deep13 Jan 2013 #1
Kennah Jan 2013 #6
Tx4obama Jan 2013 #2
socialindependocrat Jan 2013 #3
Deep13 Jan 2013 #4
Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #5
safeinOhio Jan 2013 #7
Why Syzygy Jan 2013 #8
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #13
Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2013 #9
socialindependocrat Jan 2013 #14
JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #10
ileus Jan 2013 #11
hack89 Jan 2013 #12
meow2u3 Jan 2013 #15

Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:04 AM

1. "...define gun trafficking as a federal crime..."

Um, you mean it's not already? Jesus Christ!

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:34 AM

6. It depends how it's defined

Straw purchases, selling to a prohibited person, and selling a gun across state lines are already illegal under federal law.

Unless they are using the language of combating trafficking to introduce background checks on all private gun sales.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:08 AM

2. Biden: W.H. readies 19 executive actions on guns



Biden: W.H. readies 19 executive actions on guns

Article here: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/biden-guns-executive-actions-86187.html?hp=t1_3



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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:12 AM

3. I don't think anyone supports illegal gun purchases.

Your final statement is disappointing and unnecessary.

You are saying that gun owners or people who go to gun shows support the illegal straw sales of guns. Why would anyone who is not a criminal support such a thing?

It would be nice if you edited out your last line.

Otherwise - good post...

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Response to socialindependocrat (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:25 AM

4. manufacturers do

Every gun that is sold through a straw man to a street gang or to a drug cartel increases demand for manufacturers. That is why the NRA demonized the UN small arms treaty.

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Response to socialindependocrat (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:08 AM

5. Straw purchases

are already illegal.

http://www.atf.gov/training/firearms/ffl-learning-theater/episode-4.html

However, a straw purchase occurs even when the actual purchaser is not a prohibited person. The crime committed is knowingly making a false statement on the Form 4473 indicating that the straw purchaser is the actual purchaser, when this is not the case.

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Response to Why Syzygy (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:37 AM

7. Without a paper trail,

those laws are worthless.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:47 AM

8. Well ..

they have made arrests and prosecutions using those laws. So they can't be entirely worthless.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:32 AM

13. There is a paper trail

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Response to socialindependocrat (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:19 AM

9. Legal or illegal purchases still benefit the manufacturer of any firearm

 

but the real question to ask is simple:

How can I hunt rabbits without my assault rifle and my uzi?

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Response to Nanjing to Seoul (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:35 PM

14. How can I hunt rabbits without my assault rifle and my uzi?

That's simple...

with my Ruger, silly!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:12 AM

10. "Gun show fucks"? The arrogant, gloating, taunting end-zone dance ...

... should be performed AFTER the successful touchdown.

Otherwise, it just looks silly.

Or did something get signed into law while I was sleeping?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:47 AM

11. So all gun show sales are straw purchases?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:14 AM

12. This is a good law. nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:33 PM

15. Time to point out that anyone who opposes stepping up enforcement of existing gun laws

is in favor of allowing straw buyers to sell guns get to criminals, terrorists, mentally unbalanced individuals, and terrorists. Enough said.

I've had enough of the gun cultists pontificating about enforcing existing laws, and when Obama finally does beef up enforcement, they want to impeach him for it. That pisses me off to no end.

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