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Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:21 AM

McCain: Assault Weapons Ban Can’t Pass Congress

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PEMA LEVY 11:02 AM EST, SUNDAY JANUARY 13, 2013

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said Sunday that he does not believe an assault weapons ban can pass the Congress nor that one should.

Appearing on CBS' "Face the Nation," McCain used Norway as an example of how people with mental health issues can acquire guns and kill people despite strict gun laws.

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McCain: ‘There Are Significant Questions’ About Hagel And Brennan

PEMA LEVY 10:56 AM EST, SUNDAY JANUARY 13, 2013

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said Sunday that he looked forward to the nomination hearings for former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) who is nominated to be the next secretary of defense, saying he hasn't made up his mind on how to vote.

Appearing on CBS' "Face the Nation," McCain laid out the questions he would ask Hagel during the confirmation hearings. "What is his view on America's role in the world? Whether he really believes that the surge was the worst blunder since the Vietnam War?" McCain said.

"I have always believed that a president deserves the right to choose his own team, but there are significant questions," McCain said, referring to both Hagel and John Brennan, Obama's pick to run the CIA.

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Reply McCain: Assault Weapons Ban Can’t Pass Congress (Original post)
DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
samsingh Jan 2013 #1
ybbor Jan 2013 #8
samsingh Jan 2013 #11
L0oniX Jan 2013 #2
primavera Jan 2013 #3
bowens43 Jan 2013 #4
Socal31 Jan 2013 #20
Botany Jan 2013 #5
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #6
ybbor Jan 2013 #9
Bonhomme Richard Jan 2013 #7
LibDemAlways Jan 2013 #10
CBHagman Jan 2013 #13
BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #14
zbdent Jan 2013 #12
judesedit Jan 2013 #15
SoapBox Jan 2013 #16
Frustratedlady Jan 2013 #17
Turbineguy Jan 2013 #18
NickB79 Jan 2013 #22
tomm2thumbs Jan 2013 #19
NickB79 Jan 2013 #21
Dr_Scholl Jan 2013 #23
meow2u3 Jan 2013 #24

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:23 AM

1. when is this guy going to retire?

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Response to samsingh (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:47 AM

8. Exactly!

Who the F#@& cares what that bitter LOSER thinks? Stop putting his a$$ on the shows!

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Response to ybbor (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:51 AM

11. agreed

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:28 AM

2. Freakshow clown. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:30 AM

3. Great

Then he and those who oppose it can step up to the plate and explain to the families of the victims of the next assault weapon massacre and explain to them why they refused to do anything to prevent it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:33 AM

4. another jackass trying to blame mental health issues..

dumbass , the problem is now and always has been the easy access to guns and ammunition.

OTOH if you feel a need to have a concealed weapon, a handgun or an assault rifle there is a real possibility that you are mentally ill and should therefor not be allowed to purchase one.

The desire to purchase one of these should be enough proof of mental illness to disallow the sale.

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:34 PM

20. "The desire to purchase one of these should be enough proof of mental illness to disallow the sale."

The desire to post something so hyperbolic, broad-brushed, and frankly offensive to the mentally disabled, should be proof someone is not mature enough to discuss adult matters.

Guns and ammunition aren't going anywhere. A new AWB WILL pass, and it is a start. But shouting down the mental-health aspect sounds very Republican-esque. This is a chance to improve not only gun regulation, but mental-health treatment and monitoring. Undo the damage that making mental health a taboo topic that the 80s did.

Why can't we have both? I think we can, but comments like yours, which I do realize are an extremely tiny yet vocal minority, will leave us with the status-quo. Some executive order for better back-ground checks, any loop-holes for no background checks (gun show, etc) is all we will get if we come to the table with that sort of position.

And by "comments like yours", I am referring to what I quoted, along with the "all gun owners are mass-murderer" statements that are not helpful by any means.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:34 AM

5. right wing memes

"assault weapon & high capacity clip laws can not pass congress"

rinse leather and repeat

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next meme

I _______ (McCain / Graham / Gohmert / .....) support the President but I have real
questions about _______ (Susan Rice / Chuck Hagel / .....)

rinse leather and repeat


Go on David Gregory or Fox and get those talking points out there.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:36 AM

6. McCain is an expert on coming up short of votes.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:47 AM

9. LOL

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:45 AM

7. Then let them at least have the courage to put.....

Their name next to a no vote.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:49 AM

10. How about the day of the vote poster sized

death photos of the children slaughtered in Connecticut (with the families' permission of course) be displayed on the floor of the House and Senate. I'm not sure too many of these fools would change their minds, but it might make a hell of an impression on the public and give rise to outrage that might eventually prompt some action. We never see the actual carnage. I think that should change.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:26 PM

13. For what it's worth...

...I understand that after brand-new (Democratic) Senator Heidi Heitkamp expressed opposition to new gun measures, basically said they wouldn't pass, her opposition was the subject of an advertising campaign, and she evidently tempered her remarks.

I haven't much faith that will work with McCain, especially given the ferocity of the GOP's digging-in approach following their failure to win either the White House or the Senate, but still, a few losses in the court of public opinion might make some difference.

What I hate most is people announcing in advance how the vote will go, especially after the scores of occasions the GOP misused the threat of filibuster.

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Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:28 PM

14. ^^^ THIS ^^^

It's the only thing that will wake some folks up.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:56 AM

12. He is such a great judge of what this country needs and wants ...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:25 PM

15. I think more people need to look into McCain's TRUE history before listening to a word he says

Ask the other 500 soldiers he spent time with in Hanoi. It was the Hilton only for McCain and other VietNam ass kissers.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:26 PM

16. Fuck off, Grampy.

...you have become a national DISGRACE.

Fuck you.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:29 PM

17. Last I heard, NOTHING passes congress.

So, what's new.

Time for McCain to retire. He's become a crotchety old man.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:31 PM

18. Maybe we need a new congress?

Repubs continue their "Fuck America" legislation which doesn't pass the Senate and democrats push legislation that Americans want, which the republicans don't pass. The message should become clear for the 2014 elections.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 07:58 PM

22. The latest polls show Americans don't want a new AW ban, though

And I'm afraid this will become clear in 2014, unfortunately for the Democratic party.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:37 PM

19. Applesauce ban would protect McCain





McCain has proven you can outlive your usefulness in society if you try hard enough and really work diligently at it.

And to think he was THE Republican's choice for leading the country... shows how stupid Republicans are at their very foundation, especially when you top that stupid-sundae with a Sarah Palin cherry.


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 07:55 PM

21. He is right

A lot of DUers have gotten grilled for saying it, but the votes simply aren't there to pass sweeping gun laws. It would require dozens of Republicans, as well as many pro-gun Democrats, to vote with the rest of the pro-control Democrats in the House to pass anything. And the President can't unilaterally ban them through executive priveledge either.

The best to hope for is probably closing the "gun show loophole" and maybe banning magazines of more than 10 rounds. And in exchange for this, we'll face a re- energized NRA in 2014 and 2016 with millions in new funding and members.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 08:37 PM

23. This

 

I doubt even a limit on magazine capacity would make it through.

All I see happening are some changes to background checks and maybe something having to do with mental health.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:12 PM

24. Obama ought to make Congress an offer they can't refuse

Either they pass common sense gun safety measures or the President can have the Justice Dept. investigate the NRA for bribing and/or extorting public officials.

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