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Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:45 AM

Hawks on Iraq Prepare for War Again, Against Hagel

Source: NY Times

The campaign now being waged against Mr. Hagel’s nomination as secretary of defense is in some ways a relitigation of that decade-old dispute. It is also a dramatic return to the public stage by the neoconservatives whose worldview remains a powerful undercurrent in the Republican Party and in the national debate about the United States’ relationship with Israel and the Middle East.

“This is the neocons’ worst nightmare because you’ve got a combat soldier, successful businessman and senator who actually thinks there may be other ways to resolve some questions other than force,” said Richard L. Armitage, who broke with the more hawkish members of the Bush team during the Iraq war when he was a deputy to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell.

William Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard, who championed the Iraq invasion and is leading the opposition to Mr. Hagel’s nomination, says the former senator and his supporters are suffering from “neoconservative derangement syndrome.”

“I’d much prefer a secretary of defense who was a more mainstream internationalist — not a guy obsessed by how the United States uses its power and would always err on the side of not intervening,” he added. Of Mr. Hagel and his allies, Mr. Kristol said, “They sort of think we should have just gone away.”


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/us/old-foes-lead-charge-against-chuck-hagel.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0&hp



One critic is Elliott Abrams, a national security adviser to Mr. Bush during the Iraq war who pleaded guilty in the Iran-contra scandal to withholding information from Congress. He called Mr. Hagel an anti-Semite who has “some kind of problem with Jews” in an interview on NPR last week. (The Council on Foreign Relations, where Mr. Abrams is a senior fellow, distanced itself from his comments.)

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Reply Hawks on Iraq Prepare for War Again, Against Hagel (Original post)
underpants Jan 2013 OP
jpak Jan 2013 #1
cosmicone Jan 2013 #9
madrchsod Jan 2013 #2
DFW Jan 2013 #3
zbdent Jan 2013 #5
zbdent Jan 2013 #4
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #6
snot Jan 2013 #7
Cynicus Emeritus Jan 2013 #8
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #10
ROBROX Jan 2013 #11

Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:48 AM

1. Obama should ask for a 2% surtax to pay for the Iraq War

We'd see how many repugs were willing to "support the troops" with their paychecks.

*zero*

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:13 AM

9. The tax should only apply to those who were for the war

This should be a requirement ... every war should be paid for by a revenue increase via taxes or no war.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:54 AM

2. hagel will be the secretary of defense

i guess the times has nothing to write about so they keep turning over the same pile of shit thinking we won`t notice the smell.

abrams is a lacky of the bush family who still curry favors from them

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:55 AM

3. The Republican hate machine seems to be running out of Democrats.

So they have no one left to trash but their own.

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Response to DFW (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:59 AM

5. Obama derangement syndrome ...

Anything Obama proposes ...

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:58 AM

4. War tax ...

on capital gains on investments over $1 million ... no "PROFITS FROM INVESTMENTS" over $1 million ...

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 10:08 AM

6. Hmm, a "guy who's obsessed by how the US uses its power" and prefers not

to intervene sounds EXACTLY like the kind of guy we need as SecDef. They are going to rake him over the coals at the hearings, though--try to get him to agree that Iraq was a worthwhile success instead of the waste and tragedy we all know it was. Otherwise the neocons finally lose.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 10:14 AM

7. This is an opportunity. I hope the Dems are preparing a VIGOROUS defense.

. . . perhaps as in, the best defense is an offense.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 10:56 AM

8. Many pundits like MTP are using every opportunity to do their job

 

which to push propaganda to take out a moderate and cautious Mid-Westerner (Hagel) and instead grease the skids for our war machine and a new war in the Middle East, pushed by corrupt neocons and corporate interests. The media needs to represent the interests of the USA.

There is nothing more threatening to the wealthy elite who want and profit from war, than a Sec of Defense who opposes reckless wars fought by a "jobs in China working class" and paid for with debt put on working and middle class, and wars that serve no strategic advantage or purpose for the USA.

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Response to Cynicus Emeritus (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 11:20 AM

10. Agreed.

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Response to underpants (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:43 PM

11. THE GOP IS JUST A BUNCH OF CHICKEN HAWKS

 

The GOP likes the idea of our BLOOD and their BIG GUT to have a war. The country does not NEED to have a war every 0 years just because there are chicken hawks making a lot of noise.

What kind of animal goes against its own kind........ A GOP......

:head bang:

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