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Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:03 PM

Now nutcase 'killing people' guy says he's 'assembled an army'

Source: www.dailykos.com

"Now, I don't condone anybody doing anything rash. I do not condone anybody committing any kind of felonies up to and including aggrivated assaults or murders. Unless its necessary.
Right now, it is not necessary. I understand that my video was very volatile. You have no idea how many people that sent me emails and texts and call me like 'Right on! My shit's clean. My bag is packed. You tell me when and where.' You have no idea how quickly I accidentally assembled an army. I assure you, a quite formidable army. But now is not the time. It's not time yet.
But, it is time to get ready!"

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/10/1177993/-Now-nutcase-killing-people-guy-says-he-s-assembled-an-army



So, threatening to raise an army against the sitting government of the United States, whoever is President, is okay now? WTF

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Reply Now nutcase 'killing people' guy says he's 'assembled an army' (Original post)
RetroGamer1971 Jan 2013 OP
Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #1
brush Jan 2013 #18
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #50
DonViejo Jan 2013 #65
brush Jan 2013 #107
DonViejo Jan 2013 #119
bpj62 Jan 2013 #66
frylock Jan 2013 #78
leftofcool Jan 2013 #102
obama2terms Jan 2013 #73
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #2
rbixby Jan 2013 #14
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #26
rbixby Jan 2013 #29
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #40
1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #38
DevonRex Jan 2013 #62
DevonRex Jan 2013 #64
obama2terms Jan 2013 #74
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #80
Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #3
Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #15
OswegoAtheist Jan 2013 #51
tavalon Jan 2013 #115
formercia Jan 2013 #4
DeSwiss Jan 2013 #10
2naSalit Jan 2013 #13
formercia Jan 2013 #25
pacalo Jan 2013 #27
formercia Jan 2013 #84
pacalo Jan 2013 #87
formercia Jan 2013 #100
pacalo Jan 2013 #105
DevonRex Jan 2013 #53
formercia Jan 2013 #81
DevonRex Jan 2013 #97
2naSalit Jan 2013 #83
DevonRex Jan 2013 #88
2naSalit Jan 2013 #91
tavalon Jan 2013 #116
Politicalboi Jan 2013 #92
socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #93
Kablooie Jan 2013 #101
formercia Jan 2013 #103
titanicdave Jan 2013 #5
Incitatus Jan 2013 #39
Ilsa Jan 2013 #63
Paladin Jan 2013 #6
SwankyXomb Jan 2013 #48
Wait Wut Jan 2013 #7
Aristus Jan 2013 #8
samsingh Jan 2013 #9
Squinch Jan 2013 #11
99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #37
libdem4life Jan 2013 #12
kentauros Jan 2013 #16
SirRevolutionary Jan 2013 #22
kentauros Jan 2013 #34
SirRevolutionary Jan 2013 #41
kentauros Jan 2013 #96
frylock Jan 2013 #82
kentauros Jan 2013 #98
mike dub Jan 2013 #17
pasto76 Jan 2013 #19
SirRevolutionary Jan 2013 #20
Jamastiene Jan 2013 #21
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1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #45
kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #70
tavalon Jan 2013 #117
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coljam Jan 2013 #49
patrice Jan 2013 #57
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DevonRex Jan 2013 #60
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Skittles Jan 2013 #56
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Lars39 Jan 2013 #110
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Kablooie Jan 2013 #99
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tavalon Jan 2013 #114
jpak Jan 2013 #121
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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:06 PM

1. I hope the FBI is keeping a close watch on him. nt

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Response to Mojorabbit (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:37 PM

18. Don't worry

The FBI and the Secret Service and probably ATF and Homeland Security are most likely all monitoring this guy. And he's most likely all talk and will sh_t his pants when he gets a visit from one of these agencies. If not, we'll hear about him like we heard about Ruby Ridge. And we all know how that worked out.

Most of these guys live in a dream world and envision themselves as being rock solid and able to react heroically in high stress situations involving gun fire. This video was posted yesterday either here or on another site. It shows how most untrained and even allegedly trained individuals actual react under gunplay-involved stressful situations.

http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/library/video-podcast-media/video-proof-concealed-carry-permit-holders-live-dream-world

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Response to brush (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:05 PM

50. Couple that with the fact that these killers wear body armour, and your concealed gun is worthless.

Maybe worse than useless, since, as this excellent video shows, you end up fumbling for your gun instead of concentrating on running or taking cover---and thus become a prime target.

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Response to brush (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:50 PM

65. Two or three years ago, the mentally unhinged...

guy who alleges he smoked crack and had sex with then State Senator Obama, shot up with a gun, pictures of Michelle and the President. He then faxed them to the White House. The Secret Service came a calling, to this day he is monitored, even when he leaves whatever state he is in (he lives in FL). Last year he was stopped by the USSS after driving in front of the White House three times "while looking for a parking space."

A year ago he tried committing suicide in a WVa hotel, the Secret Service called the local Police, requesting the locals handle it.

I've been a member of two online groups, one observed the guy I just wrote about, refuting all of his claims, since 2007. The other is an Orly Taitz debunker site.


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Response to DonViejo (Reply #65)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:52 PM

107. Pls explain

Are you saying this is true or is or what? Your post is not clear. And what does it have to do with the topic.

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Response to brush (Reply #107)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:51 AM

119. I'm agreeing with your, "don't worry"...

the loons are monitored. Sorry for the lack of clarity

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Response to brush (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:00 PM

66. Wow

I watched the video all the way through and this should be played over and over again on mainstream tv.. I have told many of my gun loving friends that they have no formal training and to the last they all say I am an excellent shot. Do you remember the movie Glory and the scene where Matthew Broderick is teaching them to shoot and he basically breaks down the best shot in the group because he cannot fire and reload his rifle more than once a minute. These Rambo wanna be's have no idea how to act in a truly stressfull situation. I am more scared of the CCP carriers then I am of the bad guys because at least I know who the bad guy is and who he is trying to shoot. Scary thing is this prime time episode came out in April of 2010 and we were in the middle of the ACA vote and the rise of the Tea Party and nobody paid attention to it.

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Response to brush (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:30 PM

78. this guy is known for pissing himself when shit gets real..

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Response to brush (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:44 PM

102. Not to mention he is a useless coward

Just google his Iraq time working for a contractor and how he pissed his pants during a fire fight. He is also a murderer. Rumor has it that he killed two civilians there.

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Response to Mojorabbit (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:17 PM

73. If not local police

I heard his permit was suspended.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:06 PM

2. This guy lives in TN right? Hell I better get my Obama stickers off my car. These people are

 

crazy. Oh you can bet the FBI are watching out for this guy. I'm willing to bet they are. They should be.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:35 PM

14. FBI undercovers are probably half his army NT

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Response to rbixby (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:55 PM

26. This is some scary crap.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:59 PM

29. It is, but the scariest ones are the ones you never hear from

At least this guy is letting everyone know what he's up to.

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Response to rbixby (Reply #29)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:22 PM

40. Your are so right. I am scared to death living in crazy land.

 

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Response to rbixby (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:21 PM

38. Either that ...

or HE is an FBI operative, working to draw the nutcases out into the open.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #38)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:30 PM

62. No.

A legal line has been crossed, making that an impossibility.

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Response to rbixby (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:49 PM

64. FBI and another agency.

Yep. And they're some of his regular customers. Maybe even one of his buddies by now.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:21 PM

74. For real

I live in TN. and in a pretty liberal district, but one day this guy started honking and giving us the thumbs down. At first we thought we were doing something on the road but then the guy started swerving and driving crazily. People were honking and yelling things out their window and then he finally got ahead of us and we noticed that he had a bumper sticker that said "I don't watch the liberal media" and we were oh. Some people are such psychos!

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Response to obama2terms (Reply #74)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:36 PM

80. Crazy for sure. I live in a rural area. It is very sad. I would never think of doing that to

 

someone who has a republican sticker on their car. It is such a waste of time.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:07 PM

3. Raising a secessionary 'army' with emails, texts & tweets

What could possibly go awry with such a brilliant plan?

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:35 PM

15. his "army" is made of keyboard warriors, so they don't really count

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:07 PM

51. ...



Oswego "Pet Cause" Atheist

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:24 AM

115. Ain't that the truth!

Geez, nutcase frothing in aisle 10..............

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:10 PM

4. He's probably an FBI informant

This is just the kind of thing they did to the Black Panthers. Their Chief of Security was an FBI informant who provoked them into arming themselves against Whitey, Before he showed-up, the Panthers were more like Occupy Sandy, helping out people in the 'Hood.

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Response to formercia (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:24 PM

10. Bingo.

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Response to formercia (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:31 PM

13. That's not what came to mind

yesterday when he first hit the commons but now I think you have a really good point. He's egging someone on to see who flushes out. Otherwise, he wouldn't be launching a second taunt IMO.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:55 PM

25. He collects all the emails and turns them over to the FBI

which is redundant, because the FBI is monitoring his Email account, so anyone stupid enough to send him an email telling him they're ready to rock and roll.........

I think the FBI is about to roll-up the stupidest fraction, anyway....

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:56 PM

27. It would be a good way to flush out the nuts, alright.

In these crazy times, though, when peaceful OWS protesters are manhandled, beaten, & arrested for simply standing up to unfairness, as opposed to teabaggers & gun fetishists getting the kid-glove treatment from the government, it's not easy to believe this would be done for the common good. The darker side of the government is benefiting some way from teabaggers & gun mania for them to have been given such leeway in creating chaos on society.

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Response to pacalo (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:42 PM

84. It justifies the Patriot Act and a whole slew of other Laws.

Without these crazies, the Feds would have nothing.

They tried to provoke Occupy to violence, but thankfully, the people listened to those who spoke for Peace. They were waiting to crush Occupy, and now that we know some of the details,I'm glad the peeps didn't fall for it.

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Response to formercia (Reply #84)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:58 PM

87. +1.

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Response to pacalo (Reply #87)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:30 PM

100. OWSome!

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Response to formercia (Reply #100)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:26 PM

105. I like that!

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Response to formercia (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:12 PM

53. No. I can tell you with absolute certainty, no.

There is a glaringly obvious issue that makes it an impossibility.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #53)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:37 PM

81. Please elaborate

There isn't any scum of the Earth the FBI won't use as an Informant/Provocateur.

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Response to formercia (Reply #81)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:59 PM

97. I replied below but

I do understand your skepticism and the history you mentioned. First, I'd like to say that not all agents are bad. Believe it or not there are some liberals but we need many more. Second, we need to keep a better eye on overly pushy, ambitious agents. The ones who glad hand a bit too much, push cases too hard when the evidence isn't quite there yet. I know them when I talk to them. It doesn't take long. They often rise to the top and then make embarrassing mistakes. Or simply spend inordinate amounts of time combing their hair (really) for photo ops with the same insincere smile on their faces. I'm talking about my last director here.

This particular case? The guy is saying this stuff too publicly. What you're talking about would have to be done secretly and covered up. And no agent would have had this loon go on YouTube and tell people to be ready to kill federal agents as soon as Obama passes an executive order about guns.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #53)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:37 PM

83. And what is that pray tell

I must have missed it...?

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #83)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:59 PM

88. Ok.

I can tell you that I would never, ever bend these rules even slightly. Ever. For any reason for anybody. if it were as simple as a drug deal I would call it entrapment, using a CI to make people do something they wouldn't normally do. That CI is to tell me what is going on, not to make something happen that never would have happened except for my direction. Period.

This person is actively inciting criminal activity. Assault, murder even. Against Federal, state, and perhaps local government law enforcement agents. Now, it really doesn't matter what the crime is. But, he is calling for it, inciting it in a very public forum in which he has many followers who actually do listen to what he says, and he actually does expect them to follow his lead. That's how he makes his living. He knows they follow his instructions because they buy his stuff.

A Federal agent cannot use an informant to incite murder against Federal agents. Do you understand now? A Federal agent will not use a CI to incite murder against Federal agents.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #88)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:08 PM

91. Yeah, I can see that, thanks. I was thinking it might be something else.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #88)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:27 AM

116. Yep, he isn't covered by the First Amendment

And methinks he is about to find that out.

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Response to formercia (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:10 PM

92. I heard on Tweety's show

From one of his panelist, I forget her name, but she runs Grio. Anyway, she said their hero Ronald Reagan in the 60's made it illegal in Ca for people to carry guns in public because the Black Panthers were doing just that. Scared them enough to ban it then, I wonder why it is different now.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #92)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:25 PM

93. It's not. Different that is. IF it were radical or revolutionary......

people of color (or even radical or revolutionary white people-like Occupy) running around with these types of weapons openly, it would happen just like it did in California when the Panthers were open carrying. It was QUICKLY made illegal by Ronnie Reagan and his administration BECAUSE OF WHO WAS CARRYING. The reason there's no pushback from the government on this type of shit now is because it's white RWers are doing the carrying.

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Response to formercia (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:39 PM

101. Oh come on! Is the FBI that clever!? I don't think so.

But if they are it's a damn great idea.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #101)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:56 PM

103. It's SOP with them

They have been using provocateurs for Generations. It works.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:15 PM

5. The Jackass

is a coward and bully........last night on the ED Show on MSNBC, Ed announced that this idiot had agreed to be interviewed by Ed on the ED Show......today on his radio show, Ed announced that this butt-head has weaseled out of the deal and will not appear tonight after-all.......so if his "army" is anything like he is, they are just cowards and bullies.....I hope every law enforcement in the nation is watching every move this idiot makes

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Response to titanicdave (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:21 PM

39. That's funny.

He talks about taking up arms against the government but he's afraid to debate Ed.

You're right. He's nothing but a shit talking coward.

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Response to titanicdave (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:41 PM

63. Someone close with $$$ to lose must be on his case.

My guess is that a friend or family member has loaned him money for his enterprise. The liability could cause him to lose everything. I bet that's why he bowed out.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:16 PM

6. Are You Going To Be Leading That Army From The Front Or Rear, Shithook? (nt)


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Response to Paladin (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:52 PM

48. His porn collection isn't going to watch itself. n/t

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:17 PM

7. I just thought of something...

...I used to love Fruit Loops. They're really bad for your health.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:22 PM

8. Who decides when killing is "necessary"? Him?

That's the dodge of every murderous psychopath in history. At least he's up-front about it.

I forsee a long jail term or a shallow grave in his future...

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:24 PM

9. this is beyond crazy

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:27 PM

11. So, let me get this straight: this shit isn't treasonous, but camping in Zucotti Park is?

These people are idiots and our government is coddling them. I'm really tired of it.

You're raising an army? Bring it. The rest of us will be aiding and abetting the United States Army.

Assholes.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:15 PM

37. Amen

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=365103

I just hope Obama instructs military personnel to insure that all women and children who
are unarmed, i.e. be allowed to escape to safe haven away from crazy Uncle Cletus and his
gun-nuttery buddies.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:28 PM

12. Lifting up the rock of gun nuttery is exposing all manner of creepy crawly things running for cover

I say let them out, make like Piers Morgan who masterfully allowed Alex Jones (I'd never seen him) to make an absolute fool of his paranoid rantings, not to mention his apologists. Challenge them on air. Show the well-meaning gun folk the absolute madness, then sign them up for real solutions.

Also brings to mind a certain person from Alaska who liked to shoot wolves from helicopters and put targets for political "kills" on her website. (nothing personal, of course)

Perhaps she and her secessionist hubby would like to do an on-air "discussion" with Gabby Giffords and her astronaut husband?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:36 PM

16. And, here's his army:

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Response to kentauros (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:48 PM

22. At least that's a tangible army

An enemy could lose an eye if one of those pointy plastic guns were thrown in retaliation. His army exists in the cloud waiting for the "right time".

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Response to SirRevolutionary (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:11 PM

34. I wonder how long the FBI has been tapped into that "cloud", too?

Or is that the NSA's field?

I wonder how many have Red Rider BB guns...?

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Response to kentauros (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:24 PM

41. I'll bet the FBI and NSA are inundated with info on potential threats

from cloud warriors. I'll also bet this guy will get a bunch of text messages tomorrow saying "sorry man, I was drunk last night. Disregard my last text". Most of them are probably just internet tough guys, but hopefully they'll keep an eye on him and mystical text warrior army.

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Response to SirRevolutionary (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:58 PM

96. Okay, that made me laugh!



And seriously, I'm sure there's many a watchful eye (human or otherwise) focused on the Cloud Warriors.

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Response to kentauros (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:37 PM

82. are those the UN blue helmets?

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Response to frylock (Reply #82)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:01 PM

98. No, they're part of the Cloud Warrior Air Force

The Blue Rocket Surgeons

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:36 PM

17. maybe he's hoping to incite a Ruby Ridge or Branch Davidian style raid

...Hoping to draw the FBI to his property to seize his weapons. If they did, he'd be an instant cause-celeb (or whatever) for the wingnuts.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:37 PM

19. relax people. His 'army' vs my platoon wouldnt be much of a fight

really, police SWAT teams are going to present quite an obstacle for this dude's fantasy. Woe to he, that angers a platoon of Iraq/Afghanistan veterans. his 'army' is a bunch of loser with fantasies. I fought battle hardened Iran-Iraq war veterans, and religious _zealots_. American soft white meat isnt going to be much a challenge.

if you understand what Im saying, you were probably there with me. If you dont understand, trust that these fucking wars were not a total loss. We actually have combat trained and experienced national guardsmen right now.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:46 PM

20. He accidentally assembled a formidable army

of text messages from angry nut jobs in response to his YouTube word salad rant worthy of a spot in a book of Sara Palin quotes? Does this formidable accidental army have magic powers to cloak itself from drone strikes?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:47 PM

21. Most gun owners I have known were not like those types of assholes.

Guys like the asshole in that video and Alex Jones types* seem to be perpetually pissed off. It is almost like they simmer with the anger just below the surface at all times. Someone talks about something to do with their guns and they go off on rants that become more and more incoherent as they go along. The longer the rant, the less coherent and more violent it becomes. They seem to have extreme anger issues and extremely poor impulse control...and they have guns. Think about that for a second or two, if you can fathom it.

Whatever happened to "communicating threats" being against the law? So, Free Speech means people can just go around threatening anyone and everyone they damn well please like that with no repercussions at all? No damn wonder the country is going to hell in a hand basket.

*and Ted Nugent...he seems to never STFU with his disgusting, overly angry ranting and raving.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:50 PM

23. Hey, our President has quite a formidable army too.

Let them know when you're ready for action when you and your buddies finish off that last case of beer.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:53 PM

24. Okay, then. Who's this army supposed to attack, again? nt

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Response to ancianita (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:09 PM

68. They'll just randomly pick an organization or facility that they associate with liberal causes.

Like a women's clinic, or a university, or the unemployment office, or even a local police station or water treatment facility. If liberals support it or taxes paid for it, it's their enemy.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #68)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:13 PM

72. Damn. A lot of thought about who their real 'enemy' is, I guess. nt

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #68)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:47 PM

85. Like a public shool

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Response to ancianita (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:33 AM

109. If I had to guess, I would say Democrats.

 

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:59 PM

28. I have a dark desire to see this "army" of idiots actually try a full-blown armed rebellion

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 04:59 PM

30. An army has discipline. These fools don't have

an army they have a mob if they ever assemble in one place.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:01 PM

31. Oh shut up and take to the streets already!

I can't wait to see this guy turned into dust. Hey maybe Westboro will protest his funeral.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:04 PM

32. Just a bunch of cowardly armchair Rambos

They would wet themselves if they actually had to fight against US forces. They also seem to think that everyone supporting sensible weapons control, is unarmed. BIG surprise coming for them

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:05 PM

33. 50 years ago, that would have gotten him a hug me jacket

and both rear cheeks full of Thorazine and a nice seclusion room in a state mental hospital.

Now he's allowed to walk free, threatening his family and neighbors with his arsenal of military weapons and voting Republican.

Thank you, Ronald Reagan.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:15 PM

35. In other words ...

Ted Nugent called.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:31 PM

44. Twice ...

the other 1,800 times were butt dials.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:15 PM

36. In the last few days....

there has been an explosion of these crazy people; Yeager, Jones, the judge on TV: Someone is behind this, and I would guess the NRA is paying for this wave threats and fear. Someone, maybe Anonymous, someone who has the expertise, needs to look into where these nuts are getting their money, and when they get it. This cannot be tolerated. It is beyond the realm of reason.

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Response to dawnie51 (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:21 PM

58. they are on DU too

fuck them all

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Response to dawnie51 (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:23 PM

75. That someone is behind this is what I've been thinking for the last few days myself.

This barrage of crazy must be making the NRA and other RW orgs some money. Stirring up protection money over the threat of civil war is their big grift.

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Response to dawnie51 (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:02 PM

89. Follow-the-money investigations by Anonymous would be greatly appreciated!

Tear those curtains down!

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:28 PM

42. (Yawn!) Another slab of meat with a big mouth. . .

. . .and a tiny pee-pee.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:30 PM

43. Yeager's right to carry has been suspended by the State of Tennessee ...

If this idiot so much as flinches outside his home with a weapon he will be apprehended ... he's done ...

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Response to Wernothelpless (Reply #43)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:33 PM

45. Why was he priviledge to carry suspended ...

any word (mental/criminal)?

And how can you have the priviledge to possess; but not a priviledge to carry?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #45)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:11 PM

70. He made specific spoken/written threats to harm innocent people with his guns.

I suspect there is teeny tiny print in the gun licensing that says if you do that your permit is immediately void.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #45)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:32 AM

117. It's the thing that isn't covered under the First Amendment

He's inciting to riot and threatening the public as well. Dude can use his mouth but he has to surrender his guns. Maybe he'll learn not to cry fire in a crowded theater.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:34 PM

46. "It's not time yet"? I get it - he is now accepting donations to "fund" his "army", which beats

actually doing what he says he is going to do by a wide mile.

I bet he makes a million bucks off of this, sent to him by "angry" patriots. Like George Zimmerman made all that money on his website. Or Palin when she went off the rails with her comments, and made a bazillion dollars from the faithful, and bowed out of running to count her cash piles.

This is an epidemic in Amurika. And no, this guy is a perfect example of someone who is all talk but no do. I am not worried about him taking on the federal government, his pea shooters vs. our military might, not in the slightest. He is merely laughing his way to the bank daily, now that he has unleashed the mighty donation machine.

I don't have an issue with gun ownership. I do have an issue with morons like this, but they are self limiting, and self extinguishing. His threats are way too public and grandiose to give me much concern - he is just talking his book, and if his livelihood is being threatened by whatever he thinks is coming via new gun regs, it appears he has found a far quicker way to make up the income loss by donations. I am guessing he figures "problem solved" at this point, but he will need to keep yakking and stoking the fear machine ala Faux News style to keep the money rolling in.

I also have a vague memory of some parish, in LA?, doing the something along the same lines, ie raising a militia/protection/vigilante group that they were quite public about at the time. I think they held armed meetings, IIRC. It was the damned stupidest thing, but it seemed to make them feel useful, at first, then stupid shortly before they just disbanded the whole moronic vigilante thing.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:37 PM

47. Wonder what the Vegas line would be on his "formidable army" vs say, the Tennessee Nat'l Guard.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:02 PM

49. Gitmo time

Take all these treasonous mutherf ckers to Gitmo all expences paid for a couple of weeks and show them what the government can doThey will come back quiet as lambs.

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Response to coljam (Reply #49)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:21 PM

57. That would be giving his puppet-masters, the NRA & Rand Paul and all, just exactly what they want.nt

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Response to coljam (Reply #49)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:23 PM

61. Interesting that you show up here to promote founding whatever this is on martyrdom. nt

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:10 PM

52. Sounds like he's doing the FBI's work for them

Pull the logs; assemble watchlist.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #52)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:22 PM

60. Or, realize he is an insane braggart

Who possibly got a few serious emails that might produce a lead or two. The rest will undoubtedly be cowardly dumb asses who couldn't carry out missions to the local McDonalds unless their mommies were driving. The ones who might've been dangerous wouldn't have replied in a traceable way.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:13 PM

54. I remember this in Usenet days, only then it was "the lurkers support me via email!" (nt)

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Response to Posteritatis (Reply #54)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:34 AM

118. OMG, I had forgotten that little gem

They are the fools for which Godwin's law was made. Flamers unite or untie or something.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:18 PM

55. k, so now, because I approve an assault weapons ban, I am in danger not only from Yeager, but also

from his formidable army that he has assembled.

I wonder if he can get them all to wear somekind of insignia or something, so that I can make rational security decisions about where I go in public.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:20 PM

56. see what happens when gun nuts lose their control?

these are the kind of people we have been catering to for DECADES in America

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Response to Skittles (Reply #56)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:30 PM

77. a national dialog is finally taking place, and very bright lights are being shone onto the idiocy

"when gun nuts lose their control?"

I don't think it's even that.. merely that for the first time in many years, a national dialog is taking place, and very bright lights are being shone onto the idiocy of this demographic.

But yeah... we've been catering to them for far too long, and bless their little hearts if they're afraid of a collective discourse about their sacred cows.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 06:22 PM

59. Speaking as a former Prosecutor of 25 years

Be assured the FBI, ATF & Secret Service have this guy at the top of their list of ppl to watch and investigate.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:03 PM

67. Oh okay are you going to take on the entire US Army?

talk about actually shooting your mouth off

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:10 PM

69. Uh, not if you belong to occupy

Right wing nut bags get a pass, though. I woke up in the middle of the night last night and Coast to Coast, was on, and man oh man they had a nut bag guest. Kept refering to 'us' as the progressive left who LOVES big government. He refered to himself and his ilk as 'white, Christian, hetrosexual, gun owner males' who settled the west.

No wonder our guys here are getting tired of the white male privledge meme lumping them in with extremist racist gun fornicators. They ARE out there.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:12 PM

71. lol... nutcase pied-piper fool.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:29 PM

76. And Just Remember, These Gun Owners Want To Be Taken Seriously

eom

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:35 PM

79. Does this make him and his army enemy combatants?

Or do they actually have to perform acts of violence, rather than talk of organized violence?

No doubt the FBI has more than a few plants to monitor these idiots.

Hear that, nutters? The FBI is alllll over you. Who, among you, is the plant or plants? hmmmm.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:53 PM

86. "Unless it's necessary"

Now here's the thing. To these fanatics it is "necessary."

But I'm not worried about them. I don't want to live in paranoia like them.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:02 PM

90. Idiot. nt

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:32 PM

94. There are a hell of a lot of people in this thread who expect.....

something to be done about this shit. Trust me, NOTHING WILL BE DONE. Other than possibly a few administrative penalties. If he were with Occupy talking this trash, he'd ALREADY have been sent to Gitmo. Or some other black hole of a prison. This guy is white and a RWer. Nothing serious will happen to him

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #94)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:32 AM

108. He's got his permit revoked.

It's a start... or a warning sign that he and his ridiculous 'army' (one that would not 'stand' longer than five seconds in a real battlefield against the US Army 'today'...) are being 'watched' closely...

He did this to himself, the idiot!

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Response to Amonester (Reply #108)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:29 AM

111. It was suspended. He can petition for a hearing to have it reinstated. I looked at the stats last

night and TN routinely revokes and suspends carry permits. The suspension is usually either for an felony arrest, or a domestic violence call. Typically if you're not convicted you get it back. With domestic violence it may be a little different. But there is clear precedent for carry permit revocations.

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Response to okaawhatever (Reply #111)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:37 AM

112. But if he really wants to go ahead with his army of idiots and start shooting 'people'

he won't even bother with having a permit or not, I guess.

Only when facing an army of drones will he suddenly realize he's made a fool of himself (or a 'martyr') all the way...

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Response to Amonester (Reply #112)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:16 AM

113. I just found out his attorney is my city councilman. They did a video together and Yeager was apolog

izing and saying her spoke harshly, etc. etc. sounded very authentic actually. But, what he said was, "let's use this opportunity to change the laws" and suggested everyone contact their elected officials. All of them, city, county, state, etc. And his attorney/my city councilman said "people who think like us" I wanted to hurl. James did say they were friends, but McLendon stopped just one step shy of endorsing him. Oh, and McLendon used the RWNJ words of "permission" for permit to carry. I wanted to vomit. I learned that recently. Those who subscribe to "cold dead hand" theory believe that having to get a permit is having to get permission and therefore not a right. You don't have to get permission for a constitutionally given right is their battle cry.
The point of the my rant being, I guess he's lawyered up for the permit hearing. I'll bet a bunch of money that the NRA will back this play. We'll have to see how this turns out.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #94)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:36 AM

110. We can hope....and on the bright side, he's hired a lawyer.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #110)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:48 AM

120. And hope is all it is........

As I said, if he were with Occupy and/or was a person of color, he would ALREADY be in Gitmo.

I just don't see much more than administrative penalties (revocation of his CC permit) coming out of this. Call me cynical, but there's not much in the way of penalties if you're white and RW.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 08:45 PM

95. Yup, the "Fighting 101st keyboard battalion"

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:08 PM

99. This is what Fox News, Limbaugh and the NRA are pushing for. Armed insurgents.

They've been working hard to terrify the right so that they become armed insurgents.

I mean, the middle east wars will be ending soon so what're they to do?
Bring Fallujah into the United States! What a wonderful idea!

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:24 PM

104. One drone and he's gone....

from his exploits he seems to be a coward.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 11:43 PM

106. The old Erick Von Zipper line ...

... seems appropriate here.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:21 AM

114. Wow, Dude, shut up already.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:03 AM

121. Bad Boy, Bad Boy, whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when they come for you?



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Response to jpak (Reply #121)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 04:45 PM

123. HA HA I take it you've watched COPs quite a few times or that you're a Metrolyrics fan. N/T

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:50 PM

122. Pathetic impotent little loser.

He thinks he has an "army"? I can hardly wait until he's vaporized by a real army.

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