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Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:59 PM

Gov. Bobby Jindal calls for elimination of all Louisiana income and corporate taxes

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

Gov. Bobby Jindal is proposing to eliminate Louisiana's income and corporate taxes and pay for those cuts with increased sales taxes, the governor's office confirmed Thursday. The governor's office has not yet provided the details of the plan.

"The bottom line is that for too long, Louisiana's workers and small businesses have suffered from having a state tax structure that is too complex and that holds back economic prosperity," Jindal said in a statement released by his office. "It's time to change that so people can keep more of their own money and foster an environment where businesses want to invest and create good-paying jobs."

Jindal said the plan would be revenue-neutral and that the goal would be to keep sales taxes "as low and flat as possible."

The governor's office has not yet confirmed or denied an article in The Monroe News-Star that reports eliminating the state income tax could require increasing the state sales tax from 4 percent to 7 percent.

Read more: http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/01/gov_bobby_jindal_calls_for_eli.html#incart_river_default

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Reply Gov. Bobby Jindal calls for elimination of all Louisiana income and corporate taxes (Original post)
Redfairen Jan 2013 OP
samsingh Jan 2013 #1
SharonAnn Jan 2013 #48
samsingh Jan 2013 #73
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benld74 Jan 2013 #3
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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:00 PM

1. this guy is a scary hypocrite

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Response to samsingh (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:03 PM

48. So only people who spend their income to buy things like food, etc. will pay taxes.

No matter who much income you have or how wealthy you are, you would pay no taxes except on what you purchase in Louisiana. That can be gotten around!

Oh, and usually these taxes exempt personal services, rent, medical costs, groceries, financial transactions, etc.. And, they'll probably exempt anything purchased for eventual resale, like materials for construction and manufacturing.

In other words, they don't raise enough money but severely punish the poor and the middle class. If the sales tax is the typical 9-10% like it is here in TN, that's like giving a 9-10% pay cut to the poor and middle class.

What a tool!

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #48)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:37 PM

73. exactly

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:01 PM

2. He didn't go far enough

 

Drop all the environmental protection laws & product safety laws, too. That should really fire up the Free Market.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:02 PM

3. This is the Offical moment when Jindal jumped into the deep end,,,,,,,,

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Response to benld74 (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:15 PM

18. God forbid if this guy runs for president. I would like to ask him how are people going to pay

 

for the necessities of the state? Where are paying firemen, police officers, teachers and public works going to come from. Manna from heaven? Get real. Is NY or NJ going to have to bail them out? Just wondering. When he says "small business" does that mean large corporations?

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Response to benld74 (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:28 PM

29. He can't; the Birthers won't allow it...

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:02 PM

4. I bet this PO's a lot of tax accountants. Does something like this work, is it fair? I've always

thought the entire US tax structure is horrifically complicated.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:12 PM

56. Is it fair? It's regressive as hell. I suppose if if $100 dollars to a minimum wage earner is

felt the same as $100 to a millionaire it's fair. That is to say, hell no it's not fair!

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:04 PM

5. Fine, Jindal - find us the revenue to replace the lost money

 

Or you're going to get your ass booted out in '13.

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Response to Crazy Combo (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:20 PM

59. He is not up for election in '13.

Next election is 2015.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:06 PM

6. Tax the poor, yeah, that's the ticket!!

Those who have the least will pay the most as a percentage of their income.

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Response to MADem (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:12 PM

16. Yes, Exactly. Sales Taxes are Regressive

People like Jindal refuse to admit sales taxes impact the poor unfairly. He is just another typical Republican ass hat.

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Response to dballance (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:27 PM

26. bingo

all taxes paid by the consumer.. this the most regressive type of tax... think the 1% got it easy now, they would have field day with this..

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Response to dballance (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:32 PM

34. And you know the super rich don't even pay the sales tax

They just negotiate with the seller to make the seller pay that tax, after offering a deep discount.

/When you're selling high priced toys to rich folks, like a yacht or a Ferrari, you have to know that there will be some bargaining. First would be selling below MSRP. Second is selling at a price that cuts into your commission. Third is eating the sales tax. So that $125,000 Maserati with a 9% sales tax is sold to the rich dude for under $100,000 and you take home $3000 commission, if that.

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Response to adieu (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:54 PM

43. So what? The gov still gets the revenue, instead of the car/yacht/mansion becoming a tax write-off.

 

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Response to adieu (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:32 PM

86. So if instead of explicitly charging the sales tax I include the tax I quote in the price...

the purchaser didn't actually pay the tax ?

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:07 PM

7. he then added that all roads will now be toll roads

and will cost $5 to drive each mile.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:07 PM

8. This shifts taxes toward lower-income people

This is just the sort of thing a Republican would want. It is well-known that sales taxes hit lower-income people harder, but income taxes get more from higher-income people.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:09 PM

9. No one will want to go to Louisiana for a visit and pay high sales taxes

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:10 PM

10. In other words, Jindal's plan is to shift more of the tax burden to working people and families

Since they will generate more of the revenue from sales taxes than the 1 or 2 percent just based on purchasing necessities. Of course, maybe Louisiana has no sales tax on groceries or clothing. . .

But I do always love the GOP line of baloney which says ""It's time to change that so people can keep more of their own money and foster an environment where businesses want to invest and create good-paying jobs." No one I know has ever managed to "keep more of their own money" with a tax cut - as soon as those are announced, it seems like everything from utilities to insurance suddenly increases in cost, so the money dangles in my account just long enough to be shifted to pay more to a large corporation.

Tax break last year? My car insurance immediately went up 33 percent, even though I have no tickets, no claims, no accidents in the last 20 years.

Conservatives, of course, will argue that I don't HAVE to pay those things or that I could shop around and find lower rates. . .what they won't say is that they ALL raise their rates so the shopping has little effect, and states often mandate forced insurance and how many can go without basic utilities?

Jindal's scheme is nothing more than shifting the tax burden to the lower classes and then, by eliminating corporate taxes, go back to the old 1980's Republican scheme that providing tax breaks and infrastructure will create permanent new jobs - as long as the lower classes pay for the infrastructure to attract the new businesses.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:10 PM

11. So this must be the ALEC flavor of the day ...

the Governor of Arizona is trying to tinker with the "too complex and that holds back economic prosperity", too.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:48 PM

40. pricksnot of Florida has begun the same

meme.

Get ready for a Dickensonian type of life, or get your kids/grandkids ready for one. Now that the wealthy have gotten their permanent tax cuts, we're in for a raw one.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:10 PM

54. Then show some leadershipo and tell the state legislature to streamline and simplify the tax code.

But they will never do that, as large corporations LOVE complex tax laws written specifically just for them.

THAT is where all this 'complexity' they babble about comes from in the first place.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:09 PM

68. Similar ideas proposed in the Texas

wayyyy too Republican legislature.

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Response to They_Live (Reply #68)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:08 PM

74. So ...

we're supposed to believe this is just a coincidence of timing.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:10 PM

11. The interesting problem with this idea is

the sales tax will make buying products more expensive in LA. So people will go to GA to buy their color TV or furniture. No sales no LA taxes coming in.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:39 PM

38. Why Georgia?

We are much closer to Texas. For instance, Lafayette is only 3 hours from Houston, and Lake Charles, only two hours. As you go up our state line, other LA cities are close to large shopping meccas of Texas. But, to reach GA, you would have to go through Mississippi and Alabama. Geography is so much fun. More northern LA cities are closer to Dallas-Ft.Worth.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:07 PM

50. buy stuff online...

qvc has "easy pay" . monthly payments with 0 interest , no shipping charges,and no sale tax.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:10 PM

13. Little Bobby Brady sure is a regressive dipshit.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:11 PM

14. & Kansas gets a partner in the race to the bottom. Who can pay less for those jobs?

When the going rate for a body is 0 - $280. @ mo. on assistance, a job can amount to not much more than indentured servitude.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:11 PM

15. So in other words, he's going to force workers and small businesses to pay MORE

Who the hell do you think is going to be paying those increased sales taxes, moron?

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:14 PM

17. Could backfire if people start moving to Louisiana and buy their stuff elsewhere.

So they will be stuck with the cost of providing services for residents and have less and less money to pay for those services.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:22 PM

21. Comments on the nola.com article say just that.

One said they'd do all their shopping in MS and live, basically, tax free in LA.

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Response to apnu (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:33 PM

35. Property taxes and usage fees will likely increase.

That is what usually happens in situations like this.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #35)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:59 PM

47. Oh sure, the state will find a way to keep the income flowing like it is now.

I know a few conservatives who recently moved to Florida from Illinois. As the IT guy for the company I helped with the move. Leading up to moving day, all they talked about is how wonderful of a tax free land Florida is. After being down there all the do is grumble about taxes and fees for everything under the sun. They haven't realized the great bump in the standard of living they were expecting and find dealing with the local government the same kind of nuisance as Illinois. Even though they make about the same income they made in Illinois.

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Response to apnu (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:20 PM

58. Not to mention having to deal with these guys....

Where did that cat get to? She was out here a minute ago.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #58)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:33 PM

63. Hah! good one.

These guys are the softest of the soft. They'd never leave metro Orlando, "wild" for them was going to that a hole-in-the-wall Mexican place down the street where English is the 2nd language. Which I got them to do, boy that was a funny lunch.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:17 PM

19. I'm not a fan of Bobby Jindal by any means, but I'm not a fan of taxing workers labor either.

I have always thought people should be taxed on how they spend their money. No tax on food, big tax on tobacco, big tax on booze, big tax on anything that taxes the environment or anything that taxes people's health (and therefore our health care system). I'm still in favor of taxing corporations, especially if they tax the environment. I'm a big fan of taxing religious organizations that take a position on political issues.

I'm probably being too idealistic, but whatever.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 10:59 AM

94. The tax status for churches needs to change.

All tithing should be taxed that is intended for property maintenance & salaries should be taxed. If they want their tithing to go for the purpose of helping others for charity purposes they need to contribute separately to a legally organized charity. That can be tax exempt.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:19 PM

20. dear corporate world, come to Louisiana, we're cheap because we don't worry about

educating any of our children.

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Response to Fresh_Start (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:30 PM

33. Hell, the corporate world already knows that

Just look at Bobby's charter school program that gives money to folks teaching that the earth is 6,000 years old.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:22 PM

22. OK...

... so he forfeits all government support, right? This sort of sounds like secession to me.. No? When is Jindal up for reelection?

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:24 PM

23. Maybe Gov. Jindal needs to have a talk with Gov. Jerry Brown.

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Gov. Brown has taken the opposite approach and now has his state on the rebound. I lived in New Orleans for four years and saw the grinding poverty there. How can Gov. Jindal possibly think this is the answer.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:25 PM

24. I live in New Orleans . . .

People are already talking about driving to Mississippi to make purchases if Jindal is able to get this through. The Mississippi state line is about 45 miles east of NO. I imagine other Louisianians, depending on their location in the state, will do the same and take their business to Texas or Arkansas.

Jindal is such a dumb ass.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:33 PM

72. I'll be shopping online as much as possible.

For larger items like appliances, we could easily travel to Mississippi or Texas.

I despise that twerp.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:45 PM

97. We see that kind of thing here all the time.

Liquor taxes are cheaper in Georgia, so people cross over from South Carolina to buy their booze there. Not to mention that they have a higher percent-alcohol limit for beer than does SC. And SC has the cheapest tobacco tax in the country, and one of the cheapest gas taxes. So, people who live in neighboring states cross the border to buy that here. It was the same when SC taxed food. A lot of people I know just went across the river to GA to grocery shop.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:25 PM

25. Yup. Make Looziana One Big Plantation where peeps be desperate, lucky and grateful to have they jobs

Enter the Koch Bros., Waltons and the rest of the .01% who'll use LA to beta test the corporatization of a society.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:27 PM

27. So, more sucking from the

federal teat to pay for all the infrastructure maintenance while the fat cats can call LA home and not have to contribute to any of the state's expenses. Right.

You're already sucking hard on the federal teat. Any harder and it'll fall off.

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Response to adieu (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:28 PM

62. precisely

It's another way Jindal can legitimize his yearly feast on the largesse from federal taxpayers in CA, NY, NJ, and MA. As long as Bobby gets money redistributed to him, everything is fine and dandy.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:27 PM

28. Well this won't turn out well n/t

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:28 PM

30. Brilliant!

Eliminate the largest sources of money from one of the poorest states in the union.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:28 PM

31. I smell pay offs.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:30 PM

32. LOL

 

Now that is the way to expand the GOP base...

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:35 PM

36. Booby must really hate New Orleans

and the few other parishes (counties) that add their own sales tax on top of the state's.

Orleans Parish (New Orleans) already has a 9% total sales tax. That's in California territory! Booby's plan* would push that into double digits.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:36 PM

37. Sales Taxes

Total sales tax in New Orleans is near 9%. Add another 3% on top of that and it will be 12% on every purchase---there are very few exceptions.

So I guess he wants to kill the small retailer who will now be driven out of business by out-of-state purchases and Internet purchases.

Remember, this is an idea from a Governor who has missed budget projections for 3 straight years and had to cut teachers, healthcare, and the poor mid-year to balance the budget. Which is the plan---pass a ridiculous budget and then when it falls short the governor gets to force cuts that would never pass in the legislature.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:47 PM

39. scarey

Hey, gov, you trying to make all your poor people past tense?

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #39)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:02 AM

91. Welcome to DU, oldandhappy. n/t

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Response to area51 (Reply #91)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:32 PM

95. Thank you

Thank you. Still learning the navigation tricks, smile.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:52 PM

41. There is no WAY

that sales taxes could make up the difference in revenues from income and corporate taxes. Where did Booby Jindal study math, let alone economics? He will bankrupt the state.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:53 PM

42. Visit Louisiana, the most expensive place to shop! will make a great tourism slogan. nt

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:55 PM

44. So, he is agreeing that all elected politicians will work for FREE?

 

Good luck with that!

Anybody know the annual salary of the good Governor from Louisiana

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:57 PM

45. No state income taxes is a scam

Money has to come from somewhere. I've lived in states with and without state taxes and see very little difference. If anything states with no income taxes have a fee for everything. It doesn't stop cities or counties from having taxes of their own either. Never did the math but I suspect that when I lived in TX I paid more there (in fees and sales taxes) than in a state with taxes. It's just an accounting trick. Total BS.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #45)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:07 PM

52. FL and NV get by w/o state income tax due to tourism. Louisiana ain't got enough of that

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #52)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:44 PM

65. And yet some Republicans I know who moved to FL bitch about the taxes and fees.

No joke. Before the move all they would talk about is the tax-free Shangra-La that is Florida (only 2nd to "Tax Free Tennessee" in their book). And they laughed at us suckers remaining in Illinois. Now that they're down in Orlando all they do is complain about all the piddly taxes are and how there's a fee for everything and the toll roads and all that stuff.

Florida finds a way to pay for stuff by raking over the locals and tourists a like. Tourists, at least, are expecting it and can afford it, the locals, not so much.

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Response to apnu (Reply #65)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 09:39 AM

93. Yeah, registering a car and driver's license is higher here than...

when I lived in Ky.

But, surprisingly, cost of living is rather equal between the two, including housing.

but, here, the bonus of no state income tax!

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Response to angrychair (Reply #45)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:40 PM

83. Property taxes are high in Texas for a reason

unless you are like Samsung and put a goat on your land so you can claim an agricultural exemption:

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/investigations/corporations-cash-in-on-tax-breaks-for-farmers

Dell has a total of 264 acres on six properties with agricultural valuations. Property taxes on its market value of all those properties would be an estimated $382,201. But instead, Dell pays only about $1,088 in property taxes on those 264 acres, a difference of $381,113.

Samsung also has ag-designated land. The high-tech giant has about 50 acres next to its main facility in northeast Austin that it claims as open land and wildlife preserve. Property taxes on that land at market value would be an estimated $22,299. But instead, Samsung only pays about $141.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:58 PM

46. Dont worry, us blue states will just keep subsidizing all the ridiculously stupid red state ideas.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:05 PM

49. a horribly regressive tax. Of course that schmuck wants it!

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #49)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:05 PM

66. Exactly. It's sad so many people fail to realize this.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:07 PM

51. Tax the poor. Great idea. Not.

Agree with others here.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:10 PM

53. If he wants to keep taxes down why doesn't he give back part of his salary?

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:12 PM

55. ROFLMAO!

...sales tax? At about 25% maybe?

And who does that hurt the most? The 99% crowd! The 1%ers simply buy their expensive shit OUT of state!

It's a joke!

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:14 PM

57. Louisiana voted these kind of fools in. How has that been working out

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Response to still_one (Reply #57)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:12 PM

70. Well, not all of us voted for that 'fold'!

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #70)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:23 PM

77. True dat!

Some of us voted for the other fold.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #70)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:34 PM

79. That is the @&$&@$ auto correct, I meant fools, thanks, and yes, I realize the folks from La here

Had nothing to do with it, as those from most of the South

What I was trying to express, regardless of which side of the aisle, people have been hurt enough by the republican policies, one would think they would realize

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Response to still_one (Reply #57)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:22 PM

76. Maybe.

I have a hard time believing that he won without "help". Yes, we have our share of idiots. But, I have never believed that he won "fair and square".

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Response to NOLALady (Reply #76)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:36 PM

80. I am just saying enough folks have been hurt by those policies, I would like to think things start

To change

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:22 PM

60. Bobby is going to finish off of Katrina starts

the boob.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:24 PM

61. So the wealthy can avoid paying a fair share of taxes.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:36 PM

64. Who the hell elects a Turd-on-a-stick like this?...seriously!, no shit, who the fu...

...Yeah, yeah, I know...my bad, but, but, dayum!

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:09 PM

67. Yeah, that'll work. Make the hourly wage earners and super-small non-corporate

business owners pay 100% of the state's budget. And give the 1% a free ride.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:10 PM

69. The people of that state are not going to be happy. Their rate is 4% now.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:21 PM

71. This clown is absolutely out of his fecking mind!

is he nuts! And the really sickening - I mean gutwrenching pukefest making thing is, I fear that North Carolina's teabagger controlled legislature will think this is a grand idea.

My only hope is that the voters, of all stripes will learn just how much of a bad idea this really is when you have to live with teabagger/Ayn Rand ideology.

lawd

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:11 PM

75. This is taken straight out of the Libertarian party platform.

Poor Louisianans.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 06:25 PM

78. Piyush is a

Bat. Shit. Krazy MOFO.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:03 PM

81. Governor

Dopey, creating a catastrophe, forcing more and more people to suffer.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:13 PM

82. There are a lot of not-rich folks in La. who will get screwed by this.

Is it possible to get through to those people? Or are too many of them the "I back rich 'cause someday I MIGHT be rich" types?

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #82)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:57 PM

89. If this nonsense passes . . .

it will be because of the propaganda spread by racist republicans. Racism is alive and kicking in Louisiana.

A lot of these inbred, hick conservatives will vote against their own self interest if they think they can take a swipe at minorities in the process. Because, in the feeble minds of some of these fools, all poor people are either African Americans or illegal immigrants. The ignorance is just as thick as the racism in Louisiana.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:44 PM

84. No educated voter would ever support that crap

Good luck trying to sell it to public!

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:48 PM

85. ALEC Agenda

If you ask me. Idaho's governor wants to get rid of property taxes for business.

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Response to libodem (Reply #85)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:46 AM

90. The replacement will be Local Option Income Taxes

Which will have to be approved by the voters. In Idaho.

Here's the last catastrophe Our Wonderful Elected Servants came up with: They decided to cut property taxes by the amount needed to fund schools, and fund the schools through a series of voter-approved levies. This works better than you'd think it would - occasionally, a levy gets approved. Quite often, though, the levies do NOT get approved and the school districts have to scramble for money some other way.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:37 PM

87. What will the Auto Dealers think about this, Auto Sales are the #1 source fo sales tax revenue

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Louisiana has a 4% state sales tax: 3.97% to sales tax and .03% to Louisiana tourism district. The state sales tax is not charged on unprepared food. There are also taxes on the parish (county) level and some on the city levels, Baton Rouge has a 5% sales tax. Parishes may add local taxes up to 5%, while local jurisdictions within parishes may add more. In Allen Parish, the combined sales tax is up to 10% (0.7% for Parish Council, 3% for School Board, 1% to 1.3% for City/Town). Louisiana also bids out sales tax audits to private companies, with many being paid on a percentage collected basis.

Orleans Parish collects the maximum 5% tax rate for a total of 9% on general purpose items. This 5% is also charged on groceries.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_the_United_States#Louisiana

10% sales tax is generally considered the point when the sales tax is no longer viewed as a nusiance tax by people who pay it, but something to avoid. i.e. below 10% sales tax are complained about, but paid, above 10% they are avoid (i.e. NOT PAID).

Please note the total number of cars per 1000 people living in the US has DROPPED since 2007, while minor, it is a HUGE factor if you are a Auto dealer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle#United_States

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Response to happyslug (Reply #87)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:57 PM

88. they charge 5% on groceries?

that sucks

even here in WV they've cut back on sales tax for food

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:54 AM

92. Great idea cause that loads much heavier tax burdens on the poor.

And that's the goal.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:38 PM

96. That's a great way to get people to stop buying stuff, Booby.

And, that's going to hurt any small business you claim to support. Just wait until everyone starts making their purchases on the Internet, where most purchases are not taxed. Brilliant! What a freaking idiot.

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