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Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:27 AM

Venezuela’s telecommunications agency notifies Globovision channel that it faces sanction

Source: Washington Post

AP
CARACAS, Venezuela — Officials from Venezuela’s telecommunications regulatory agency have notified the local Globovision television channel of a forthcoming sanction.

National Assembly president Diosdado Cabello and Energy Minister Rafael Ramirez urged the agency earlier Wednesday to take action against Globovision for allegedly violating broadcast regulations.


Cabello claims Globovision broadcast false information regarding interpretations of the Venezuelan Constitution amid a dispute over the legality of postponing the inauguration of President Hugo Chavez.
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Globovision is the remaining counterweight among Venezuela’s privately owned TV channels to state television, which airs only praise for Chavez while attacking opposition politicians.




Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/venezuelas-telecommunications-agency-notifies-globovision-channel-that-it-faces-sanction/2013/01/09/949cba1c-5abe-11e2-b8b2-0d18a64c8dfa_story.html

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Reply Venezuela’s telecommunications agency notifies Globovision channel that it faces sanction (Original post)
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 OP
msanthrope Jan 2013 #1
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #2
msanthrope Jan 2013 #3
Tempest Jan 2013 #4
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #5
Tempest Jan 2013 #6
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #8
Tempest Jan 2013 #11
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #13
msanthrope Jan 2013 #14
liberalmike27 Jan 2013 #7
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #9
Tempest Jan 2013 #12
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #15
Tempest Jan 2013 #10
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #16
Tempest Jan 2013 #17
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #18
Tempest Jan 2013 #22
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #25
reorg Jan 2013 #29
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #30
Peace Patriot Jan 2013 #19
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #20
Tempest Jan 2013 #21
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #23
Tempest Jan 2013 #24
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #26
Peace Patriot Jan 2013 #27
Bacchus4.0 Jan 2013 #28

Response to Bacchus4.0 (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:30 AM

1. No real progressive thinks this is a good thing. nt

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 09:54 AM

2. Glovovision TV "micros" which the gov alleges incite hatred, panic, and public disorder

http://globovision.com/articulo/en-video-estos-son-los-micros-por-los-que-conatel-abrio-procedimiento-a-globovision

videos so no translation. The micros discuss the relevant articles of the Ven constitution regarding swearing in, when a term begins, and the duration of the term. Quoting Chavez, "The constituion is everything, without it there is nothing."

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:15 AM

3. Clearly, quoting Chavez is anti-Chavez. Every progressive must think so. nt

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:53 AM

4. B.S.

Reporting false information and then issuing no correction should never be thought of as acceptable under any circumstances.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 10:58 AM

5. what was false? The video shows the articles of the constitution and quotes Chavez n/t

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:00 AM

6. More B.S.

As well as your commentary about state run media in the country.

Apparently you're ignorant of the fact that the LARGEST media source in the country is privately owned and anti-Chavez.

Were you in a coma during the coup attempt in 2003? Or just too busy playing your Xbox?

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Response to Tempest (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:08 AM

8. wrong again. it wasn't my commentary, it was in the article

also, the coup was in 2002. Do you ever post anything accurate?

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:10 AM

11. You're using a right wing source. FAIL!

Associated Press is right wing. They are the originators of the story.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:14 AM

13. wow, you are wrong again. FAIL!!!! How many is that? Local Venezuelan press published the story

yesterday.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:14 AM

14. What, precisely, was false? nt

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:03 AM

7. So

GlobalVision is like, the corporate media, eh?

I don't think Hugo is nearly as bad as our media claims. But it's expected of our corporate media, to stomp on anything more left, anything more fair for everyone, while pushing headlong into a police state type fascist government. Yea, good idea, let's allow the corporate media to trample the guy who wants a better life for everyone, not just the rich.

The biggest lie we have to contend with is that we've got a free, two-sided media. We've got the left, and the right, the limits to our media, corporations want to allow. We had this period where it was all about Clinton's privates all the time, the 1990s, where they ignored tons of things, all to talk about and trash Clinton's member, and where it'd been.

The rest of the airtime was spent putting on right-wingers, who regularly said "liberal media, the liberal media," this and that. But where was this liberal media? I didn't see it.

Until MSNBC, we didn't even have the corporate left, we just had a Democratic trashing machine, we had nothing to push actual liberal Ideas, like maybe globalizing away jobs could eventually end up where we are, with massive unemployment, and due to that shipping away 35 million jobs, an extra Trillion dollar hole, that was once filled with the taxes from these exported jobs. But no worry--plenty of jobs are out there for minimum wage, selling the stuff at the BestBuy we used to actually make. They don't pay much, if any federal taxes, but hey--and it'll take 3 of those jobs to replace one making $30 an hour--sadly I don't think we got those three for every one.

So, trust our media on Hugo? No thanks.

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Response to liberalmike27 (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:10 AM

9. Should we sanction them for showing articles of the constitution on the TV screen too? n/t

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:12 AM

12. Showing it and then lying about what's on it are two different things, genius.

Go back to your Xbox. It's more your speed.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:15 AM

15. where is the lie of Globovision? Every post you've made so far on this thread has been wrong

go back to kissing Chavez's dead ass.

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:10 AM

10. This story comes from the right wing anti-Chavez Associated Press

Not credible at all.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:17 AM

16. you are perfect again. Wrong every time. The story comes from Venezuelan press n/t

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 11:34 AM

17. No it doesn't. That is a lie.

It comes from a foreign AP correspondent.

You're dumber than I thought.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:01 PM

18. latest breaking news. You are wrong again!!! Venezuelan government article

dated January 9.

http://www.avn.info.ve/contenido/conatel-abrir%C3%A1-procedimiento-globovisi%C3%B3n-generar-zozobra-poblaci%C3%B3n

This is a news service of the Ven government.

Read carefully.

Explicó que la Gerencia de Responsabilidad Social de la Comisión, durante la verificación y análisis correspondientes, detectó que el canal de noticias ha transmitido durante el pasado mes de diciembre y en enero "una serie de micros y mensajes con las grabaciones de alocuciones y toma de posesión del Presidente de la República en otras oportunidades, así como la alocución del 8 de diciembre con el texto de la Constitución Nacional, especialmente, el del Artículo 231".

El artículo 27 de la Ley Resorte establece que no está permitida la difusión de los mensajes, por radio y televisión, que promuevan el odio y la intolerancia por razones religiosas, políticas, por diferencia de género, por racismo o xenofobia; que fomenten zozobra en la ciudadanía o alteren el orden público; que desconozcan a las autoridades legítimamente constituidas; e inciten o promuevan el incumplimiento del ordenamiento jurídico vigente.

The management of the Social Responsibility Commission, during the corresponding verification and analysis, detected that the news channel transmitted during December and January "a series of short videos and messages with recordings of orations the assuming power of the President in other opportunities, like the oration of of Dec. 8 with the text of the Constitution, particularly, Article 231."

(that is what Globovision did. The very next paragraph in the Venezuela gov website says alleges a crime was commited)

Article 27 of the Resorte Law establishes that it is not permitted the diffusion of those messages, by radio or television, that promote hate and intolerance for religious or political reason, for gender differences, for racism or xenophobia; that cause panic in the citizenry or alter the public orden; that diminish legitimately constituted authorities; and incite or promote non-compliance of valid legal orders.

(So, the Ven government's case is that Globovision showed the constitution and clips of Chavez talking about the Constitution so therefore they are guilty of causing panic in the population)

Do you get it now or are you busy kissing Chavez's rotting ass?

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:31 PM

22. Here's a hint, genius. Now try to pay attention.

"Globovision is the remaining counterweight among Venezuela’s privately owned TV channels to state television, which airs only praise for Chavez while attacking opposition politicians."

That statement DOES NOT COME FROM GLOBOVISION.

It is an opinion stated by A FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT WHO IS NOT PART OF THE COUNTRY'S MEDIA.

He's a paid hit man for an American conservative operated media outlet.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:35 PM

25. here is a hint, the Venezuelan gov news agency confirms the sanctions against Globovision

the AP story comes from the Venezuelan local story. go back to kissing Chavez's decomposing ass.

http://www.avn.info.ve/contenido/colegio-m%C3%A9dicos-exhorta-al-gremio-respetar-c%C3%B3digo-deontolog%C3%ADa-m%C3%A9dica

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:54 PM

29. not that I expect you to grasp what is going on

but let me explain it anyway:

AP "news" story in the OP:

"Officials from Venezuela’s telecommunications regulatory agency have notified the local Globovision television channel of a forthcoming sanction."

False. According to AVN (at your own link), proceedings have been initiated to determine if Globovision has broken the law and should be fined (up to 10 percent of gross income in the previous year) or sanctioned otherwise (suspension of right to broadcast for up to 72 hours).

The AP story goes on to claim that the regulatory agency was urged on by National Assembly president Cabello (which may be true, but is still not from a "Venezuelan government article", it is a claim made by AP).

"Cabello claims Globovision broadcast false information regarding interpretations of the Venezuelan Constitution"

Again, this may be true but is nowhere to be found in your "Venezuelan government article", it is a claim made by AP, without citing a different news source. The AP story consists of three claims, false, true or half-true and, of course, misleading as they are followed by an opinionated conclusion which is quite typical for a propaganda outfit such as AP.


As to the reason for sanctioning Globovision: it would appear that these "micros" suggest that somehow it is against the constitution for the president-elect to become ill and undergo a life-saving but dangerous operation while the inauguration date is approaching. We have seen such idiotic claims in more detail and more expressly stated elsewhere in the media and they have been duly picked up by the sordid claque that misses no opportunity and no "news story" to spread hate against the progressive leaders in Latin America.

A more detailed analysis of those "micros" may reveal that they are indeed part of an attempt to stir up public unrest, which, as we all know, would not be a first for Globovision. It is not just clips of Chavez talking about the constitution and selected quotes from that constitution. The collage clearly suggests that there is no other way for Chavez to follow the constitution than to step down and make way for new elections.

These repugnant swine seriously suggest that Chavez - while lying incapacitated in his bed due to complications following a fucking six-hour operation - is committing a coup d'état if he does not step down right now. If you cannot see how this is grossly inappropriate - in itself, not just regarding the implications such claims may have in the context of public unrest - then you cannot be helped, sorry.

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Response to reorg (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 02:29 PM

30. Diosado Cabello (Godgiven Hair) asked for the investigation, video

http://www.larepublica.pe/09-01-2013/disodado-cabello-pide-sanciones-para-globovision-por-manipular-informacion

the micros show that the swearing is constitutionally mandated on 10 January. It also states that a presidential term is for 6 years.

Since Chavez is likely unable to serve due to death or being comatose, it would seem fitting to hold a new election pursuant to the Constitution wouldn't you think?

The AVN was among numerous local entitities that carried the story. the AP and any other English language news source got their info from the local story.

here is a video of the government thugs delivering the complaint to Globovision.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwmpyw_conatel-inicia-nuevo-procedimiento-contra-globovision-por-difundir-articulos-de-la-constitucion_news

Diosdado requesting sanctions against GLobovision.

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:04 PM

19. Then how come it says "AP" at the top of your posted article?

You are the one who is wrong on this point.

I call them the Associated Pukes, and for good reason. They are notoriously anti-Chavez--with lying, distorted coverage of every issue, always pushing rightwing "talking points." So are the Washington Psst and Globvision.

But the important point here--besides your extreme bias and the corporate press extreme bias--is whether or not a democratic people have the right to regulate their public airwaves. They do. End of story.

And I wish we had some regulation of the public airwaves here, too, like we USED TO HAVE, before Reagan got rid of the "Fairness Doctrine" that required those getting a license to use the public airwaves to serve the public interest with true balanced coverage of political news and opinion, among other things.

Venezuelans have an extremely important reason for insisting on "Fairness Doctrine"-type principles. The corporate media--including Globvision--LED the 2002 coup attempt, which succeeded in overturning Venezuela's democracy for several days before the people of Venezuela reversed it and restored Constitutional order. It has been called "the first media" coup for that very reason. And that, too, is the very reason that WE had a "Fairness Doctrine" in the first place--to prevent the inherently intrusive TV/radio media, which broadcasts into every home/vehicle, from fomenting coup d'etats against the legitimate, elected government in the interest of the 1%. We've had "soft" media coups here, with no "Fairness Doctrine." The Venezuelans had a "hard" one. They are therefore leading the way back to REAL democracy by fighting this very, very important fight to demand public accountability, fairness and impartiality from publicly licensed broadcasters using the public airwaves. It is their right. It is our right. I am glad that they are asserting it. We ought to be doing the same thing.

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Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:08 PM

20. because it needs to be in English. Hello. Here is the Ven government site info

http://www.avn.info.ve/contenido/conatel-abrir%C3%A1-procedimiento-globovisi%C3%B3n-generar-zozobra-poblaci%C3%B3n

This is a news service of the Ven government.

Here you go. The relevant text and translation:

Explicó que la Gerencia de Responsabilidad Social de la Comisión, durante la verificación y análisis correspondientes, detectó que el canal de noticias ha transmitido durante el pasado mes de diciembre y en enero "una serie de micros y mensajes con las grabaciones de alocuciones y toma de posesión del Presidente de la República en otras oportunidades, así como la alocución del 8 de diciembre con el texto de la Constitución Nacional, especialmente, el del Artículo 231".

El artículo 27 de la Ley Resorte establece que no está permitida la difusión de los mensajes, por radio y televisión, que promuevan el odio y la intolerancia por razones religiosas, políticas, por diferencia de género, por racismo o xenofobia; que fomenten zozobra en la ciudadanía o alteren el orden público; que desconozcan a las autoridades legítimamente constituidas; e inciten o promuevan el incumplimiento del ordenamiento jurídico vigente.

The management of the Social Responsibility Commission, during the corresponding verification and analysis, detected that the news channel transmitted during December and January "a series of short videos and messages with recordings of orations the assuming power of the President in other opportunities, like the oration of of Dec. 8 with the text of the Constitution, particularly, Article 231."


Article 27 of the Resorte Law establishes that it is not permitted the diffusion of those messages, by radio or television, that promote hate and intolerance for religious or political reason, for gender differences, for racism or xenophobia; that cause panic in the citizenry or alter the public orden; that diminish legitimately constituted authorities; and incite or promote non-compliance of valid legal orders.


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Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:27 PM

21. There's no arguing with stupid, you can't win

AP contracts out independent journalists. The story most certainly does not come from the Venezuelan press as they claim.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:32 PM

23. still wrong on every count, what a moron. and the Ven government confirms it

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:34 PM

24. Keep tilting at windmills

There's a reason why Judi hasn't joined this thread and set you straight.

Because it's obvious you're in way over your head and she doesn't waste her time with idiots like you.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:36 PM

26. because she doesn't know anything either. You are still wrong and always will be n/t

s

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Response to Bacchus4.0 (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:45 PM

27. Bacchus, your comments about Chavez's "dead ass" and "rotting ass" are crude and uncalled for.

These kind of offensive remarks seem designed to stop thought, not to encourage it. If you really want people to think about these issues, you wouldn't make offensive remarks about Chavez's "ass" when he is struggling with pelvic cancer. But, frankly, I don't believe that you want anybody to think about what is fair and just in Venezuela. You want them instead to share your hatred of Chavez and, by implication, of the people who elected him. And, if you can't achieve this by posting yet more corporate media lies, distortions and disinformation, then you seek to achieve it by bullying and by crude remarks.

You are free to do so. I wouldn't stop you. But you should be aware of how revealing it is. And those who read your remarks should be aware of how the discourse has been dragged down to this gutter level, in the event that the image that you want us to have of Chavez--"dead ass," "rotting ass"--remains like a ghost in the mind to poison peoples' thoughts about the Venezuelan people and the "New Deal" they voted for themselves.

Health care for all, education for all, sharing of the oil wealth, vastly improved public participation, free and fair elections (in an election system that Jimmy Carter recently called "the best in the world"), good wages and labor protections, high employment, high rates of economic growth, high levels of social and economic equality. You want people to think of all this as a "rotting" corpse, with your crude remarks. You can't stop these things from being real. You can't stop the Venezuelan people from voting for them, no matter how much you promulgate corporate propaganda. So, like the corporate media, you create a phantom Chavez, to sum up all these 'horrors' (benefits to the people, democracy) and transform them into tyranny or a rotting corpse--whichever phantom you find useful at the moment.

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Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 01:54 PM

28. fair and just is exactly the subject of the thread

Penalizing the dissemination of the text of the constitution and the quoting of the now phantom Hugo is not fair and just.

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