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Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:36 AM

Judge orders 'immediate cease' to NYPD's stop-and-frisk policy in Bronx 'Clean Halls' building

Source: NY Post

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/judge_orders_immediate_cease_to_DL1rBXIPsRYAj2DIGXiuXK

A judge is putting the brakes on stop-and-frisk.

A federal judge today ordered the NYPD to "immediately cease" stopping people outside Bronx apartments enrolled in a voluntary anti-crime program unless cops have "reasonable suspicion of trespass."

In a massive, 157-page decision, Judge Shira Scheindlin said she was "not ordering the abolition or even a reduction" of the city's "Clean Halls" program, under which landlords can let cops patrols inside privately-owned apartment buildings to crack down on drug dealing and other crimes.

But she said her ruling "is directed squarely at a category of stops lacking reasonable suspicion."

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Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/judge_orders_immediate_cease_to_DL1rBXIPsRYAj2DIGXiuXK

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Reply Judge orders 'immediate cease' to NYPD's stop-and-frisk policy in Bronx 'Clean Halls' building (Original post)
Enrique Jan 2013 OP
AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #1
thelordofhell Jan 2013 #2
Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #3
formercia Jan 2013 #4
kag Jan 2013 #5
limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #6
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #7
Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #8
Tempest Jan 2013 #9
dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #10
markpkessinger Jan 2013 #11
Macoy51 Jan 2013 #12
markpkessinger Jan 2013 #13

Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:38 AM

1. Wow. Good call.

 

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:57 AM

2. When questioned about the decision and NYPD spokesman replied..........

"What....being black isn't suspicious enough?"

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:58 AM

3. Yowsa!

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:08 PM

4. 3 used Condoms

Leaky ones..

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:59 PM

5. It's about damn time.

This was a scary policy, and was hurting a lot of innocent people.

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:48 PM

6. good call.

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:53 PM

7. K&R

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:06 PM

8. excellent

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:51 PM

9. The statistics show Stop and Frisk is a racist policy

83% of the stops were blacks, but they only made up 13% of arrests.

Fewer whites are stopped but they make up the vast majority of arrests made during the stops.

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:09 PM

10. Kick.

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Response to Enrique (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:35 PM

11. The article gives a misimpression about the policy...

... The article gives the idea that it was only implemented in high-crime areas, but actually it was city-wide. Any landlord could enroll his or her buildling in the "Clean Halls" program. Unfortunately, my landlord did this with my building (in the West 50s in Manhattan), nearly resulting in my getting caught up in all of this nonsense.

A few months back, I was coming home late from work. As I approached my building, I noticed a police cruiser in front, but didn't give it much thought. As I started up the stoop, a young, burly officer came out of the building. "You have ID?", he demanded gruffly. I indicated that I did. "ID that shows this address?" Again I said yes and proceded to show my driver's license, at which point he sort of grunted and allowed me to pass by him and continue into the building. But I often run to the corner deli, or run some other quick errand in the neighborhood, without bothering to carry my ID. If this had been one of those occasions, I might well have been subject to arrest for trespassing, even though I wasn't and the charges would ultimately have had to be dropped. But it was a really unnerving experience.

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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 07:51 AM

12. Remain Calm

 

Why is presenting your papers to the authorities unnerving? Do you have something to hide Citizen? You should consider all people in authority as a Big Brother looking after your welfare. There is nothing to be alarmed about, remain calm and peacefully go about your business.

/sarcasm off


Macoy

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Response to Macoy51 (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:12 PM

13. LOL! So they tell me! n/t

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