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Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:56 AM

‘1776 Will Commence Again If You Try to Take Our Firearms!’: Watch Alex Jones Lose His Mind on Piers

Source: www.gawker.com

"Hours after he was arrested for refusing to take off his shoes at a TSA checkpoint, Alex Jones lost his damn mind during an interview with Piers Morgan on Monday night. Jones, the conspiracy mad radio host who helped start the petition to have Morgan deported for his gun control advocacy, said all sorts of amazing insane stuff — it definitely merits watching in full — but here are some highlights."

"Hitler took the guns Stalin took the guns, Mao took the guns, Fidel Castro took the guns, Hugo Chavez took the guns, and I'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms! It doesn't matter how many lemmings you get out there in the street begging for them to have their guns taken. We will not relinquish them."

Read more: http://gawker.com/5974020/1776-will-commence-again-if-you-try-to-take-our-firearms-watch-alex-jones-lose-his-mind-on-piers-morgans-show



I don't know what is scarier. Knowing these guys are crazy, but just seeing a fin above the water, or FULL BLOWN KRAZY like this.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:04 AM

1. You had to see it first hand.

He's just about screaming into the camera.

Alex Jones is a batshit crazy lunatic, and Piers Morgan was a (British accent on) bloody git (accent off) for letting that freak on his show.

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:49 AM

39. NO NO NO...

Morgan did a wonderful job bringing Alex Jones on his show to let the public know just how fucking crazy many of these gun owners are about their firearms!

Morgan did exactly what he should have done!

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:02 AM

47. You're exactly right.

In putting bellowing lunatics on the air, it illustrates very clearly why we must amend our gun laws and the culture that supports 'all firearms, all the time, any place.' Earnest, calm, well-informed spokespeople on the other side of the issue are essential, of course, and the contrast with obviously unstable gun nuts can only help prove their point.

Jones sure is scary and unpleasant to watch though.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:48 PM

105. Man, NO KIDDING!!!!!!!

The minute I saw that, I realized - he's living proof. Do you want somebody with anger issues like THAT - having access to guns?

Hell, I wouldn't want him anywhere near a glue gun or a water pistol!!!

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #47)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:31 AM

116. YES Alex Jones is scary to watch!!

However, the really scary part is considering he has become a multimillionaire selling his psycho babble to the right winged paranoid Christian masses...Which means there are a sizable crowd out there that think this man is providing them a service!! He has the ability to set off any number of lunatics just waiting out there with their guns for a reason to explode & that is the truly scary part!!

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:08 AM

49. Exactly right.

Morgan showing the world that alex jones is not sane.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:32 AM

79. Alex Jones did everything he could to help Morgan make that point......

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:07 AM

2. That's creepy.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:25 AM

3. he simply proves how irrational and paranoid gun nuts truly are

they're pathetic

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:25 AM

4. Lemmings?

 

Is it my tin foil mind or is that a bigoted remark?

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Response to Great Caesars Ghost (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:04 AM

10. A lemming is one who speaks or repeats only what one has heard.

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Response to Great Caesars Ghost (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:13 PM

106. Lemmings are furry little things that we think jump off cliffs in mass....that was Disney created

Even more influential was the 1958 Disney film White Wilderness, which won an Academy Award for Documentary Feature, in which staged footage was shown with lemmings jumping into certain death after faked scenes of mass migration. A Canadian Broadcasting Corporation documentary, Cruel Camera, found the lemmings used for White Wilderness were flown from Hudson Bay to Calgary, Alberta, Canada, where they did not jump off the cliff, but were in fact launched off the cliff using a turntable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:30 AM

5. Bigot, crazy paranoid. Just another day for the NRA.

 

NRA has 1.4 million people. JUST 1% of America. 99% of America are NOT members of the NRA.

the NRA is the elite.

time to reclassify as this proves, them to terrorists and fight guns in the war on terror.

I for one would welcome MORE security to stop the threat of these delusional insane people,
all of whom have guns. Just the people who shouldn't have guns, are the ones with them.

logic has shot down 100% of the NRA million dollar soundbytes. They are left with nothing but wanting to commit treason and overthrow the government. Therefore, one needs to deal with them, like one dealt with those that commit treason in the past.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:40 AM

65. NRA membership does not equal total gun ownership

 

There are a lot more gun owners than just on the NRA membership. I haven't seen that logic you're talking about, just emotion.

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Response to timbrower (Reply #65)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:01 PM

81. alot of people own paper clips too. And thumbtacks.

 

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Response to timbrower (Reply #65)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:23 PM

113. Over 60% of the NRA members support gun control.

The people that run the NRA do not care about the interests of their members.

It is all about selling as many firearms as possible. HINT -- NRA is controlled by the gun manufacturing industry.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:34 AM

6. Another conservative with anger issues

I notice he offered to take Morgan out shooting early on in the interview. I wouldn't want to get within 1000 yards of an armed Alex Jones.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:58 AM

7. So how do you feel now . . .

Mr. and Mrs. Gun-Loving America, knowing that this rabid dog is your spokeman? A little queasy, maybe?

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Response to MrModerate (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:31 AM

35. No. They feel all pumped up with him.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:01 AM

8. Did Alex Jones really challenge Piers to a boxing match?

Alex definitely appeared to be in a threatening and therefore dangerous frame of mind,
like he might pull out a gun right there to "stand his ground" with Piers on live TV.

that's some crazy shit he talks, about "armoring up for new civil war". You'd think
with all the money the munitions industrialists bloodsuckers are making off the "they
are coming for your guns" panick, that they could afford to hire a more convincing and
less scarey $poke$ per$on for their cau$e.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:02 AM

9. Story made it to the front pages of CNN and Huffington post. See below


Right now on the front page (on the left towards the top) of CNN they have the Morgan/Jones story with video links to tonight's segments.
Piers debates deportation petition
Watch debate Part 1 Part 1 | Part 2 Part 2

http://www.cnn.com/

Also it made it to the front page of Huffington Post...
UNHINGED: Fringe Conspiracy Theorist Explodes At Piers Morgan
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/


My guess is that we'll be hearing about this all day on all of the cable shows tomorrow.

I'm glad that America will get to see how insane he is

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:30 AM

15. Exactly!

This guy is the worst of the worst.

The others are a few degrees less rabid - but still share the views.

Let the average "Joe" see what they are really like.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:18 AM

11. That was ASTONISHING.

 

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:21 AM

12. Ignorant and Crazy

Absolutely unbelievable that this guy was let allowed on CNN. Even more believable that stupid people are signing his petition.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:26 AM

13. If you werent sure on whether gun control & banning semi-automatics & closing the gunshow loophole

....is a good idea, then just watch this "interview" (not sure it can be called that - its basically an insane person screaming at someone who is remaining remarkably calm).

Wow...If Alex Jones represents the mindset of the people wanting their guns, then I would say take away his guns first. That man is batshit crazy! If the NRA talks about making sure mentally ill people don't have access to guns, that man is a perfect poster child for why to take guns away! Wow! That show wasnt entertaining - it was scary and truly enlightening about the minds of the gun rights extremists....I beg we start with making sure Alex Jones doesnt have access to firearms when the laws are enacted....he might likely go postal wherever he is.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:37 AM

19. Mine were probably mobile links.

 

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:39 AM

20. I found both segments combined into 'one' YouTube video, below








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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:40 AM

22. Cool

 

but once was enough for me.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:35 AM

26. Can you see it -- this is going to be a future SNL opening skit.



Or another idea for the Comedy Channel. Like Colbert lampoons Fixed News, "The Angry Man" could lampoon Rush Limbaugh & Alex Jones at the same time.

Get a load of the music in the background when the second part begins (they're coming back from commercial) -- so dramatically-perfect for the situation. Think "Close Encounters of the Third Kind".





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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:30 AM

16. I don't think I've ever seen anyone in greater need of psychotropic drugs

What a complete lunatic.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:25 AM

54. Psychotropic drugs may have spurred mass shootings...

More than availability of weapons.

Stating in the early 80s it became common to put young boys (age 8-12 and up) on Ritalin. In the late 1980s through 1990s the Rx drugs administered to kids went far beyond Ritalin, which in itself could easily do damage to the growing brains of kids.

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #54)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:32 AM

62. got a link there?

only about half the mass shooters were even under any sort of treatment. that is a very irresponsible comment.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #62)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:39 AM

64. NIH gov studies good enough for you?

http://psychiatricfraud.org/2011/04/the-real-lesson-of-columbine-psychiatric-drugs-induce-violence/

http://duluthreader.com/articles/2012/04/05/299_many_psychoactive_drugs_are_strongly_associated

http://www.nij.gov/pubs-sum/145534.htm

I could post a hundred. Excerpt from first link:

A growing number of school shootings and other shooting rampages were committed by individuals under the influence of, or in withdrawal from, psychiatric drugs known to cause mania, psychosis, violence and even homicide. Consider this list of 13 massacres over the past decade or so, resulting in 54 dead and 105 wounded – and these are just the ones where the psychiatric drugs are known. In other cases, medical records were sealed or autopsy reports not made public or, in some cases, toxicology tests were either not done to test for psychiatric drugs or not disclosed to the public. But this is what we do know about the mental health “treatment” of those who committed these acts of violence:

* Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 16 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system.
* Omaha, Nebraska – December 5, 2007: 19-year-old Robert Hawkins killed eight people and wounded five before committing suicide in an Omaha mall. Hawkins’ friend told CNN that the gunman was on antidepressants, and autopsy results confirmed he was under the influence of the “anti-anxiety” drug Valium.
* Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.
* Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.
* Blacksburg, Virginia – April 16, 2007: 23-year-old Seung Hui Cho shot to death 32 students and faculty of Virginia Tech, wounding 17 more, and then killing himself. He had received prior mental health treatment, however his mental health records remained sealed.
* Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.
* Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking “medication for depression”.
* El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School.
* Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.
* Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with antidepressants when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
* Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold’s medical records remain sealed.
* Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.
* Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac.

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #64)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:09 AM

72. not nih- nij and from 1994.

from your third link-
The links between violence and psychoactive substances involve broad social and economic forces, the settings in which people obtain and consume the substances, and biological processes that underlie all human behavior. Of all psychoactive substances, alcohol is the only one whose consumption has been shown to commonly increase aggression.

the rest? worthless.

correlation is not causation. seriously mentally ill people tend to take psychotropic drugs. this may or may not help or hurt. when the link between anti-depressants and ssri's was studied, it showed that few teens reacted more than adults. acting out violent thoughts when in the early stages of treatment for depression is something that has been happening as long as there have been drugs for depression. it is because people finally have the energy to do the things they have been thinking about.
this is usually a very small window of time, and rarely leads to anything but a quiet suicide.

you are blowing smoke, and offending people here with mental illness.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #72)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:23 AM

78. Thank you! N/t

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Response to mopinko (Reply #72)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:38 AM

114. You have no idea.

You can't know about my family members or my personal history so to accuse me of offending people with mental illness is just plain dumb. *shrug*

SSRI's are symptom suppressors not 'cures' or even treatments for mental/neurological disorders. Look it up, talk to doctors. *buh bye*

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #64)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:59 PM

111. there are a number of factors to consider

Not only is the other poster's point about causation vs. correlation important, there are additional factors to consider. While the mentally ill display a low propensity to commit violence, there does appear to be some correlation between serious mental illness and mass shootings. To say that they are on some psychiatric medication tells you only that they are being treated for a psychiatric illness. It doesn't tell you whether they would have committed those atrocious crimes absent the drugs.

Having taken SSRIs myself, I can tell you that if misprescribed, they can create very uncomfortable side-effects. The first anti-depressant I took was Prozac. I could not tolerate it. It made me feel like I was crawling out of my skin. I told my doctor and he switched me to another medication that did not cause that effect. I also heard a psychiatric talk about the fact that the early period in which one takes psychotropic drugs leave the person most vulnerable, and it may be in this period that these men became violent (if the drugs are part of the cause of their actions). That is because the body takes some time to develop tolerance for side effects. That, however, does not mean such drugs are not immensely valuable. Like all drugs, there are risks and dangers. The newest research for depression involves Ketamine, known by the street name Special K. Early trials show that it is far more effective than any other treatment developed for depression. No doctor, however, is going to give a patient a prescription for Ketamine. In these trials, K is administered by doctors only in a hospital setting. They are hoping to use the information to develop safer drugs that a patient might take at home. So if Ketamine does turn out to be a fantastic treatment for treatment-resistant depression, that does not mean it's a good idea to widely prescribe it or to give it to everyone with depression. Drugs need to be prescribed with care. But the same is true for sleeping pills, antibiotics, and other medications no one associates with violence.

Blatantly condemning psychiatric drugs can have pernicious consequences. Mental illness already carries a great stigma. The last thing we need is for people to be discouraged from seeking treatment. It appears you may think such drugs are unnecessary. If so, that stems from a profound and unfortunate lack of understanding on your part. For many of us, drugs and therapy are what make life possible. Brain scans show that both alter brain chemistry in different ways and actually generate the growth of new neurons, something killed by the disease itself. Those treatments are as essential as anti-virals for AIDs patients.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #111)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 06:53 PM

131. Thanks for the important info

BainsBane, I'm not ignorant. I'd never 'condemn' all 'neuro' Rx's.

One of my dearest buddies is a teaching physician with an interest in the topic. My own observations of how the perfectly normal kids of family members and acquaintances were routinely 'placed on' various Rxs from ages 8-10 and stayed on the Rxs fairly continuously til age 15-16.

Millions of bright 'overly energetic' boys strained the patience of teachers whose classroom sizes had increased. It became advantageous to schools and stressed out working parents to sedate millions of 'attention deficit disorder' kids. The schools had stopped offering supervised active 'recess' play periods as we enjoyed when I was growing up. In elementary school we had 2 half hour periods a day. Later in middle school and high school there was a whole hour for gym (phys ed) or sports.

Anyhow, out of the 1980s-1990s generation, a great percentage of children had been taking serious prescription drugs. Incidentally, this taught them 'better living through popping pills'.

Also, adults and children are *usually* prescribed psychoactive drugs by family practitioners who aren't trained in psychology. There is seldom any supervising psychiatrist, seldom any psychological therapy as an adjunct because many, even MOST health insurance plans exclude coverage for 'nervous or mental conditions'. Or high deductibles place psychological counseling out of reach.

You and I aren't as far apart as seemed, I think.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #62)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:55 AM

115. Link to drug and violence research DU thread. Including suicides.

 

Way more than mass shootings...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022152271

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Response to cbrer (Reply #115)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:50 AM

122. i'd be more impressed with stuff from this century.

and again- correlation is not causation. the sort of person who would shoot up a school has likely given people reason to believe he needs some help.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #115)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:55 AM

123. actual facts thanks to your tax dollars-

What Did the FDA Review Find?

In the FDA review, no completed suicides occurred among nearly 2,200 children treated with SSRI medications. However, about 4 percent of those taking SSRI medications experienced suicidal thinking or behavior, including actual suicide attempts—twice the rate of those taking placebo, or sugar pills.
In response, the FDA adopted a "black box" label warning indicating that antidepressants may increase the risk of suicidal thinking and behavior in some children and adolescents with MDD. A black-box warning is the most serious type of warning in prescription drug labeling.
The warning also notes that children and adolescents taking SSRI medications should be closely monitored for any worsening in depression, emergence of suicidal thinking or behavior, or unusual changes in behavior, such as sleeplessness, agitation, or withdrawal from normal social situations. Close monitoring is especially important during the first four weeks of treatment. SSRI medications usually have few side effects in children and adolescents, but for unknown reasons, they may trigger agitation and abnormal behavior in certain individuals.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/child-and-adolescent-mental-health/antidepressant-medications-for-children-and-adolescents-information-for-parents-and-caregivers.shtml


now we can all sing the little song about the corruption of the fda. but it's the closest thing to honest science that we have. i believe a similar study in the uk found similar results.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #123)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:39 PM

128. I'm not trying to convince you.

 

I'm glad research is happening at all. This or past century. We've been drugging our kids for quite a while now. You are absolutely correct to ask about causation.

Whatever the reasons are that these people are picking up weapons and blasting away, we need answers and remedies. Going off half cocked or down blind alleys gets us nowhere.

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Response to cbrer (Reply #128)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:17 PM

132. i'm trying to convince you.

so many people are helped by these medications. that they fail to prevent every tragedy is a pretty harsh standard.
you are spreading fear where there is already more than enough.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #132)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:36 PM

133. Linking to research = Spreading fear?

 

It's difficult to interpret your post otherwise, and difficult to believe you'd be serious about that.

There are possible links that should be explored further. I didn't read anywhere in those articles that the drugs were worthless. Or even more importantly, that they were meant to prevent every tragedy.

If a simple reformulation could lower the possibility for violent reactions, how is that bad?

Or spreading fear?

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #54)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:59 PM

90. how about diabetes and heart medication?

flu shots? Vaccines.


People make a point of trying to degitimize treatment for mental illness because 1) they don't understand the diseases, and 2) they don't see them as real, and 3) societal prejudice against the mentally ill.

This Alex character is a nut case, which is not a mental illness. It's a function of our bizarre culture that someone like this has a voice. And my comment was an unfortunate joke. But I fully resent this ongoing effort to stigmatize valid, and evidence-based mental health treatment. Millions of people are functioning today because of drugs like anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. Their lives may not matter to you, but they matter a lot to me. I myself wouldn't be alive without such medication.

That doesn't mean that everyone is prescribed such drugs properly or that children should have to be medicated to attend school. But psychiatric drugs are as valid and necessary as any other life saving medication, whether for AIDs, diphtheria, etc.. .

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #90)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:52 PM

103. "This Alex character is a nut case, which is not a mental illness."

It really bothers me that an almost immediate assumption on the part of so many people, here on DU and out in society in general, is that people who commit horrible acts or voice disgusting, ignorant, bigoted opinions must almost by definition be "mentally ill." Possibly some of them are. Probably many of them aren't. They're simply horrible, ignorant, bigots, some of whom commit horrible acts of violence, for whatever reason.

One of the many ironies here is that people with psychiatric or neurological problems are far more likely to be victims of violence than they are to commit violence. And yet, as soon as an atrocity occurs, we have legions of people trying to find some link to Asperger's or schizophrenia or ADHD whatever. These are followed closely by the folks seeking a link to whatever medication, vaccination, or lifestyle they happen to find somehow threatening or unnerving.

Anyway, I understand the distinction you're making, even if your wording is somewhat inelegant, and I appreciate your efforts here to make these important distinctions.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #103)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:57 PM

104. I'm aware of that

And nut case is not a diagnosed illness. He is a paranoid personality, right-wing I suspect, but his views are all over the map.
Did you watch the video? How would you describe him?

I actually think my first post about psychotropic drugs was more problematic than calling him a nut case. As a long time sufferer of major depression, I share your frustration with popular misconceptions of mental illness and the stigma attached to it. I'm sorry my post offended you.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #104)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:20 PM

108. Your post didn't offend me.

I'm sorry if that was the impression I conveyed.

To the contrary, I think you're pointing out an important distinction. As I said, your language was less than elegant, but at least you understand the distinction I'm making, and the importance of that distinction.

I wish we could somehow disconnect the common colloquialisms for bizarre, off the wall, clearly deranged types of people, attitudes, behavior, and "mental illnesses" which are perhaps related to, but not synonymous with, such people, attitudes, behavior.

Anyway, like I said, I wasn't offended by you or your post, just more or less using it to make my point. I'm hoping to put some more thought into this, and perhaps try to write a more coherent OP some time in the not too distant future.

Best wishes, and happy new year.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #104)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:24 PM

109. Just to add:

if you still feel the need to apologize, I will gladly accept your apology. (I was taught long ago that, just as it's bad manners in most cases to decline a gift, it's also bad manners in most cases to refuse to accept an apology). But, as I said, I don't think you really need to apologize.

Best wishes.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #109)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:36 PM

110. thank you

And I will try to be more careful with my language. I understand your concern.

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #54)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:49 PM

126. It is the primary tool used by the MH industry...can't fix families and counsel all of them

forever. It is also admitted by anyone who is honest in the system, that psychotropics, even SSRIs, are a guessing game and many trials and combinations are required to help to right the brain energy. It's a guessing game.

In the meantime, these folk they are "practicing" on, tend to have otherwise-wired brains for one reason or another, but almost always stemming from the family system...and you can't medicate all of them or put them in long-term counseling.

That's why the Disclaimers...on a pharmaceutical TV ad, the entire ad is bright, pretty pictures of wonderful people in loving situations, while the audio drones on and on about the possible side effects...ended by Ask Your Doctor is _____ is right for you.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:31 AM

17. RetroGamer1971

RetroGamer1971

That was a very weird fellow - that be Alex Jones.... A lot of loud sounds - but not exactly much intelligence when he open his mouth...

Diclotican

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Response to Diclotican (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:51 AM

67. Yep!

It was like he opened his mouth and had a vowel movement.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:39 AM

21. Batshit fucking crazy doesn't begin to describe gun nuts like this.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:45 AM

23. Piers Morgan should have done his homework

before thinking he could have an interview with that foaming-at-the-mouth case of rabies. I'll bet all his fear-mongering conspiracy theories began as instruments to benefit the NRA, but as time went on & as this video clearly shows, Alex Jones seems to believe in what he's saying, which is way too virulent & over the top. From looking at Morgan's face, if there had been an eject button for Jones' speedy exit, Morgan would have pushed it. And should have.


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Response to pacalo (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:53 PM

88. I think Peirs Morgan did a great job of letting the moron spew his crazyness for all to see!

We often hear bits and pieces of extremist angry vitriol, but last night it was on display for all to see. I think by allowing that moron to show just how extreme he is, shows Americans just how important it is to enact gun controls to keep military styles weapons out of the hands of nuts!

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Response to DrewFlorida (Reply #88)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:56 AM

134. I just came back to watch it again.

It's much more humorous after you've had a couple of these:

After watching it again, particularly the second half of the interview, it's more apparent that Morgan knows what he's doing. That angry, paranoid man is dangerous because his schtick appeals to the type of audience that could transform his words into action. You have to wonder why this country tolerates, without qualification, this type of hate-peddling on its airwaves.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:04 AM

24. Reposting my Youtube comment

This is the same Alex Jones that said alien life forms are present on earth, with the fed govt's blessing; the same Alex Jones that claims the master plan of the New World Order is to reduce the earth's population through genocide (using biological weapons & organized famine),& to subsequently terraform the planet; the same Alex Jones that announced the dates of the end of the world at least twice.

Regardless of your opinion on the 2nd Amendment, how could anyone take Alex Jones seriously?

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Response to FleetwoodMac (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:10 AM

120. You forgot one: It's also the same Alex Jones that...

Thinks the government is putting "teh gay" in juice boxes



cheers
Sandy

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Response to axollot (Reply #120)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:12 AM

136. So, using Jones' logic, was his shirtless rant here caused by said juice boxes? :)


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Response to FleetwoodMac (Reply #136)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:27 PM

138. Haha! :) n/t

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:14 AM

25. Most gun owners are not BATSHIT crazy and Most are not Pawns for NRA!

The NRA does not represent responsible ownership of guns, it represents the manufacturers and sales of guns to the AMERICAN consumer. And had, they been able to control their greed with some common sense, we the people, would not have to be having this conversation.
MASS MURDer IS NOT THE norm for a civilized society. Assault weapons belong in the hands of the military on a field of battle, not in the neighborhoods and schools on American soil.
Remember, we the people, only come up with regulations when our common good is threatened. And the ARMS industry has posed a real threat to our social well being. The FDA was created in response to the poisonous foods being distributed to consumers by manufacturers in the name of profit. It took years to get SEAT BELTS installed in autos in answer to the thousands of needless deaths on AMERICAN higways, do to temp lapses of responsible driving. MADD was formed to get laws on the books against the damage DRUNK DRIVERS were doing on the hiways. GUNS use has been abused and spread to the irresponsible. The widespread sale of multiple types of guns that get into the wrong hands are killing thousands of INNOCENTS every year. It is time that WE THE PEOPLE protect ourselves from those who have demonstrated that they care more about profits than human life and have more respect for RT to own a gun, Then the basic RIGHT for all of us to our lives free from tyranny.

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Response to CarmanK (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:29 PM

83. Really...

 

When you give up your right to speak about it, I will give up my assualt rifle...

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Response to rmc7193 (Reply #83)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:35 PM

85. Hi and welcome to DU!

Alex Jones fan, are ya?
Enjoy your stay...

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Response to zappaman (Reply #85)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:13 PM

91. oh no

 

not a fan of Alex, but I do have a belief in my constitution too... one nut does not represent me, inasmuch as Harry Reid would represent you...

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Response to rmc7193 (Reply #91)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:22 PM

92. 'inasmuch as Harry Reid would represent you..."

what does that mean?

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Response to zappaman (Reply #92)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:36 PM

94. no offense...compliment...

 

I meant that as a compliment, so please take it in that context.. I believe Harry Reid is depriving a village of their idiot. Me being accused of stating the obvious entirely too much I must say, i do not think highly of him, or the person you thought I was a fan of...

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Response to rmc7193 (Reply #94)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:41 PM

96. I always thought Harry was a great guy.

Why would a liberal like you and me not like Harry?

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #96)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:12 AM

118. I didn't know if you were serious or not...

 

Harry Reid a while back claimed Mitt Romney hasn’t paid taxes, per a double-secret source — and says Mitt Romney bears the burden of proving his unsubstantiated allegations to be false:

“I don’t think the burden should be on me,” Reid said. “The burden should be on him. He’s the one I’ve alleged has not paid any taxes. Why didn’t he release his tax returns?”

I chose this example as a graphic representation of why Harry should not represent anyone, most importantly me... I could have chosen his latest Katrina versus Sandy comment? It is not the comment, its the fact that someone is comparing the two... thats tantamount to comparing 2 mass murders... both are horrible... This bumbling idiot haa plethora of examples of why he is incompetent, for the sake of easy reading I limited it to this... he is a perfect example of a hypocrite, and a hypocrite should not represent any american.

thanks for asking...

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Response to rmc7193 (Reply #118)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:36 PM

125. Who on the left do you like?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:55 AM

27. Normally I am a pacifist,

but I could envision myself taking the first punch with this joker. Alex has always been crazy--I remember him from access cable TV in Austin in the late 80's and early 90's, but his paranoia has developed into a psychosis.

TSA would be justified doing a cavity search & strip search of this loonie for even stepping foot into an airport, let alone getting on any aircraft. Hell, I'd be scared to ride to bus with the nut.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:47 AM

28. this guy proves the point this asshole shows EXACTLY why we need to take thg fucking guns away.

ALL of the rabid gun defenders are potential murders and terrorists. They need to be stopped before they kill.

There is no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:57 AM

29. "1776 will commence again?"

Oh, you mean you'll get your asses kicked until the French bail you out?

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:26 PM

101. Exactly what I was thinking

He means if President Obama tries to grab his guns, he'll attack the UK and petition France to help? Hmmmm Or he just couldn't think of a better threat at that moment and he wanted to add some drama to his lunacy?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:28 AM

30. Anyone else notice that the only part of the Constitution they care about is the 2nd

amendment?? Where were all these freedom lovers when their boy Bush trashed free speech, instituted FISA, and basically treated the Constitution like "a goddamned piece of paper"? Oh, that's right, they thought he was a wonderful, patriotic American....

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:30 AM

31. Alex Jones bio

He is fucking crazy... but that's not all.

9/11 Truther... believing the U.S. government conspired with terrorists to make it happen.

Oklahoma City bombing... yep, the Feds did it.

He led the effort to rebuild the BRANCH DAVIDIAN church in Waco, Texas in 1998... claiming that David Koresh and his followers were peaceful people that Janet Reno and the ATF murdered.

----

This guy is Timothy McVeigh with a job... on the radio.

You could easily imagine Alex Jones shooting up a crowd, leaving behind only a crazed manifesto.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:41 AM

32. Mass murder pills

That was among the strangest parts of the tirade. He kept referring to "suicide pill" and "mass murder pills".

Apparently he believes anyone who has ever killed anyone with a gun (except in self-defense, of course) was forced to do so by prescribed pills... naturally initiated by the evil federal government.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:54 AM

33. These tin-foil hat specialists

are nothing more than mandibular masturbators, talk, talk, talk. They couldn't run up a flight of stairs without passing out. How in the hell can they hear drones approaching? Especially after the sonic boom equipment goes by. They need to just go over in the corner with their pieces and masturbate and STFU and leave the rest of us alone.

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Response to Bohunk68 (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:41 AM

45. Hear! Hear!

Good for you, Bohunk.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:19 AM

34. Just another huckster

looking for rubes. Unfortunately, the hits to his little website empire will explode. How many poor fools will be provoked? One would like to ignore these bottom feeders, but that is just the kind of thing that allowed the teabaggers to thrive. Adopt an Alex Jones fan. Give him a nice cup of broth and a sedative.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:40 AM

36. Question.

Have Piers Morgan's ratings improved since he started off on his anti-gun crusade?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:44 AM

37. I thought we were not even allowed to mention his name here.

Too much past conspiracy stuff.

Having said that someone posted an infowars link a few days back in response to one of my own posts.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:49 AM

38. P**rs M****n?

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:54 AM

40. lol

Issues about kicking him out of the US soon died. Sort of shit which invariably crops up on otherwise dull news day.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 03:22 AM

135. They played footage of the interview on the Jeremy Vine radio show yesterday.

I think they got Alex Jones in as the craziest gun nut they could possibly dredge up. Piers Morgan didn't even need to do that much as Alex Jones temper got the better of him with very little prompting.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 07:57 AM

41. I doubt he could pass a psychological test that would allow him to have firearms.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:02 AM

42. Has he been checked for lead poisoning? nt

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:35 AM

43. I wonder if that broadcast qualifies Mr. Jones for involuntary admission...

...to a suitable mental health facility? Or was he that nuts for entertainment purposes?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:35 AM

44. It's the 99% . . .

It's the 99% of really crazy gun freaks who give all gun freaks a bad name.

(sigh)

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:57 AM

46. You know, we have laws about that: 18 USC § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. "

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

And....

"Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

18 USC § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:06 AM

48. And For Years, Gun Militants Have Claimed The Non-Emotional, Logical, Superior Side Of The Argument


Alex Jones' spittle-flecked rant just proves what so many on the gun control side have known for a long time: the gun militancy movement is based on enormous currents of emotionalism, equal to or exceeding whatever emotions that gun control advocates bring to the table. The key difference is that gun militants' emotions are based on perceived threats of any restrictions on firearms ownership, while gun control supporters' emotions derive from the suffering related to firearms use. What sets you off? Mere discussion of making it tougher to get a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, or the lifeless bodies of twenty first graders and their devastated families? DU Gun Enthusiasts, ponder that question and see if copping a superior attitude is as easy as it used to be.....

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Response to Paladin (Reply #48)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:50 AM

59. Nice post

Thanks for posting!

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Response to Paladin (Reply #48)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:40 PM

95. can i steal your post for Facebook use?

i'd like to post the video and your text....

is that OK? i will give you credit

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Response to Scout (Reply #95)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:45 PM

97. Be My Guest. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #48)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:10 PM

99. Need to get back to the la Pierre or Ted Nug speaking for "gun enthusiasts", they're more rational

 

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:14 AM

50. LOL!

 

The batshit crazy fool talking about Prozac. Genius!

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:21 AM

51. Alex Jones is a serious

nut. He's right up there with Jeff Rense and Joseph Farah; conspiracy mongers and full-blown whackadoodles.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:21 AM

52. yes Alex giving a whole new meaning to "Jonesing".......n/t

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:21 AM

53. 2 things Alex Jones proves here......

1. Why mentally unstable people should not have fire arms.

2. He has a tiny penis.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:26 AM

55. jones is the poster child for libertarians. nt

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Response to Javaman (Reply #55)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:41 AM

57. And people forget how buddy-buddy Jones is with Ron Paul

and how much grassroots groundwork Jones' followers did early in Paul's campaign, although Paul's people did a good job of whitewashing the connections...

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:29 AM

56. So much TV boils down to Battle of the Clowns these days

 

I really can't stand much of it.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #56)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:12 AM

74. Ain't that the truth!

This phenomena has permeated more than just TV:


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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:47 AM

58. "Take there heads and just ram them into the concrete." - Alex Jones



Gee, he sure is non-violent.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:51 AM

60. Basically Alex Jones wants to do what he claims that the so-called NWO wants to do.

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Response to Crowman1979 (Reply #60)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:59 AM

69. In order to bring it about. Ironic, that, huh? I've been saying that all along.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:54 AM

61. Careful lest we offend the Gungeon denizens

It's not like Jones is saying anything that they themselves haven't said countless times before.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:38 AM

63. The Piers Morgan petition creator

 

creator
Kurt N
Austin, TX
December 21, 2012
Signature # 1


Not Alex Jones. Wonder if it's one of his boot licks.

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Response to Kooljas (Reply #63)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:08 AM

71. Kurt Nimmo, maybe?

http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2012/02/296-kurt-nimmo.html

Poor Kurt Nimmo. They are all out to get him. They are out to get us as well, and Nimmo is heroically putting himself in the line of fire to warn us. Even WorldNetDaily has debunked his warnings. For instance, when Obama called the H1N1 virus outbreak a “national emergency”, Nimmo was quick to point out what this meant: Martial law. “In the weeks ahead we may witness a move toward martial law, forced vaccination and internment of those who refuse". That it didn’t happen just proves that the government is toying with Nimmo, actively trying to undermine his credibility. For the concentration camps are surely there already, ready for use.

The first thing the government will do, is to take our guns, so that we cannot defend ourselves when they come to take us away. He has, according to his own reliable testimony, received lots of death threats from the Zionists who run the government (one wonders why they just don’t make him disappear). Though you wouldn't expect it given his love for blaming the Zionists, Nimmo’s favorite rhetorical gambit is Godwin.

Nimmo writes for InfoWars. That’s Alex Jones’s website. He also writes for rense.com. That’s Jeff Rense’s website.

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Response to starroute (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:11 AM

73. Good call

 

It appears that Nimo, lives in Austin Tx as well. he looks the part of a pro-gun whacknut too.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:59 AM

68. he has a very limited mind and

provides ample justification for gun control every time he opens his disgusting retarded mouth

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:01 AM

70. Very definition of Gun Nut

Seriously how can you watch that and not think that Alex Jones is crazy?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:12 AM

75. lol

 

haha yeah...whatever

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:21 AM

76. Rabid gun cultists like him are carrying guns on our streets daily. We are supposed to like it.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:23 AM

77. Lotsa luck there, gungeoneer...

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:46 AM

80. Why Isn't Jones Safely Locked Up in a FEMA Camp?

 


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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:30 PM

82. The more threats from gun owners, the more I'm convinced we MUST disarm them.

Alex Jones and his heavily armed fellow travelers are a clear and present danger to the peace and security of our nation and its citizens.

Our country is in a seriously scary situation, with millions of very heavily armed people threatening civil war. Hard to see how we get out of this.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:57 PM

84. Aside from the amount of crazy on display in this video, I don't understand

I don't understand how Jones thinks The Government would go about disarming the citizenry. Via the military? I just can't see our military guys agreeing to cooperate on that one. A UN force? I absolutely cannot see our military standing by while a UN force enters the country intending to operate as a military/police force against US citizens, even if our government were to request it.

So much crazy on display in that video. Look how he winds himself up at the beginning, just like Hitler winding himself up to harangue the crowd. I'd like to think Alex Jones is just grandstanding for ratings but I see this same kind of "debate" tactic/demeanor in my father-in-law, who goes to sleep every night listening to this whack-pad on the radio.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:44 PM

86. Peirs Morgan didn't have to say a word to out this violent asshole!

Alex Jones was so outrageously arrogant, ignorant and pathetic, he made the case for gun control by allowing America to see just how illogical and extreme and violent gun extremists can be. Seeing a moron like Alex Jones on TV spewing his false B.S. was scary, the thought that people like him can own a gun legally is scary to me!

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:53 PM

87. Piers Morgan played that imbecile like a fiddle

When you are dealing with an unhinged paranoid, it's best to simply let him speak. The "Are you finished" line was murderous - he fileted him right there on the stool with that.

Jones is too dumb to even know how he'd been spanked.

Tremendously entertaining to see a gun nut absolutely destroyed rhetorically on national television. Hilarious.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #87)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:56 PM

98. Napoleon said it...

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Still, I suspect this will only increase Jones' standing among his adherents. They like that kind of talk.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #87)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:30 PM

124. And he kept ranting. Didn't even see he'd been blindsided, lol.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:54 PM

89. Another therapy candidate

Alex Jones has serious anger management problems. He needs to see a psychologist. He will wind up killing someone , or himself, if he doesn't deal with his problem.

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Response to Richard Cleary (Reply #89)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:30 PM

93. Certifiable.

I showed this clip to my girlfriend, who is a lot more conservative than I am, and she said Alex Jones was certifiably crazy.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:15 PM

100. He makes me yawn. His crazy act sure makes him money though.

So obvious.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:43 PM

102. Not the first time he exploded.

 

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:02 PM

107. The Nazis were pro-gun

Hitler took the guns


Not entirely true though. The 1938 German Weapons Act allowed Nazi Party members full exemption from existing gun permit requirements, included the deregulation of rifles and shotguns, permit lengths was extended and minimum age of ownership lowered. If anything, the Nazis were pro-gun compared to previous German governments, but only if the guns were in the "right" hands (so not surprisingly, Jews weren't allowed to have guns).

Someone should start a new pro-gun movement, but to focus on arming minorities. I wonder how the Alex Jones of the pro-gun movement would react to that!

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:19 PM

112. Wait! Truly a real gun nut?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 05:45 AM

117. 'tis a tale told by a fool, full of sound and fury...

 

signifying nothing."

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:16 AM

119. Yawn.

Neanderthals bore me.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 11:14 AM

121. Is he planning to sing?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:00 PM

127. No mental health system can help batshit crazy. Those the most "tetched in the head", believe

themselves to be saviors and special and above civilized law or those following same, feel privileged and empowered. You can't cure Stupid.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:16 PM

129. If he really wants to re-enact 1776 he should trade in his modern weaponry for muskets

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:30 PM

130. I wonder:

Would an American interviewer--Lawrence O'Donnell, say--have remained so calm?

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:54 AM

137. Americans’ level of insanity judged by how tolerable they make Piers Morgan look

http://newsthump.com/2013/01/09/americans-level-of-insanity-judged-by-how-tolerable-they-make-piers-morgan-look/

After shouty-faced tin foil wallpaper enthusiast Alex Jones appeared on Piers Morgan’s US chat show to defend his right to own guns that he doesn’t need, it emerged that the more reasonable someone makes Piers Morgan look, the more insane they are.

In the discussion Jones unleashed a ferocious rant in which he accused Morgan of using facts and being British, before insisting that gun control measures have led to the UK becoming a non-stop fireball of bloody violence.

Swatting away an imaginary army of CIA agents who had transformed themselves into tiny pterodactyls, Jones, shouted: “True, we have a higher gun violence level, but you have hordes of people beating old women’s brains out.”

Jones responded to the viral success of the interview by claiming that New York mayor Michael Bloomberg has hired the mafia to get him. “If I’m killed by a crack team of pin-dancing chimpanzee crackheads riding metal sharks, it was the NYPD or mafia they hired ” he said

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