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Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:35 PM

ĎDonít ask, donít tellí dischargees to receive full back pay from DOD

Source: The Hill

In a landmark settlement, the Pentagon has agreed to give full back pay to U.S. service members who were discharged due to their sexual orientation under the military's ďDonít ask, donít tellĒ policy.

The payouts will be granted to service members dismissed from the military under the now-repealed policy on or after November 2004.

ďThis means so much to those of us who dedicated ourselves to the military, only to be forced out against our will for being who we are,Ē former Air Force Staff Sgt. Richard Collins said in a statement from the American Civil Liberties Union, which brought the lawsuit.

Under "Donít ask," service members who were honorably discharged automatically had their separation pay cut in half.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/275971-service-members-discharged-under-dont-ask-dont-tell-to-receive-full-back-pay

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Reply ĎDonít ask, donít tellí dischargees to receive full back pay from DOD (Original post)
UrbScotty Jan 2013 OP
Duval Jan 2013 #1
Still Sensible Jan 2013 #2
msanthrope Jan 2013 #3
FreeState Jan 2013 #4
niyad Jan 2013 #5
jeff47 Jan 2013 #6
FreeState Jan 2013 #7
pasto76 Jan 2013 #15
Politicub Jan 2013 #8
Cha Jan 2013 #9
rocktivity Jan 2013 #10
awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #11
Coronamaker Jan 2013 #12
gkhouston Jan 2013 #13
Vanje Jan 2013 #17
Vanje Jan 2013 #18
Marrah_G Jan 2013 #14
Ken Burch Jan 2013 #16
burrowowl Jan 2013 #19
Hekate Jan 2013 #20
YOHABLO Jan 2013 #21
Sunlei Jan 2013 #23
Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #25
Sunlei Jan 2013 #22
Great Caesars Ghost Jan 2013 #24

Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:39 PM

1. This is fair. Good. n/t

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:39 PM

2. Excellent, but overdue.... n/t

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:39 PM

3. Doing the right thing. nt

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:43 PM

4. Great news K&R

Too bad it does not cover all the members, it only covers those 181 service members in the lawsuit.

1994: 617
1995: 772
1996: 870
1997: 1,007
1998: 1,163
1999: 1,046
2000: 1,241
2001: 1,273
2002: 906
2003: 787
2004: 668
2005: 742
2006: 623
2007: 627
2008: 619
2009: 428
2010: 261
Total: 13,650

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Response to FreeState (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:45 PM

5. I was going to say--why only since 2004? too little, way too late for some.

so, basically, at one and one half percent of those discharged will be part of this settlement.

big whoop.

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Response to niyad (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:47 PM

6. Statute of limitations

It's too late for earlier victims to sue.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:49 PM

7. But more could sue - this is only 181 in New Mexico

there are many more that were not part of this lawsuit who were discharged after 2003.

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Response to niyad (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:29 PM

15. same reason I am not eligble for full pst 9/11 GI Bill benefits

like being able to transfer my benefits to the kids. Sorry, that only goes back to 2007. NOBODY - Dems or Pubs - wants to pay for it all.

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:03 PM

8. Forward.

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:10 PM

9. I'm sure those Military Service People who are in this Lawsuit from ACLU

and will receive back pay are very excited and appreciative of this decision. I'm happy for them!

Possibly more of those ousted by DADT will join in a lawsuit after hearing of this good news.

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:37 PM

10. CUE THE VONAGE THEME!

After nearly ten years, that's gonna amount to nice piece of change!


rocktivity

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:38 PM

11. this is good...

but how many were forced out before they were eligible for pensions?

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:04 PM

12. Don't Get It

I am not sure I get this. I don't really care about who is what or why and maybe there are those who would consider that a problem but hey, to each his or her own.

What I don't know, and don't understand though is what the basis of the settlement was? Is this about people who were abiding by the DADT policy that were outed against their own desires, and then discharged despite the fact that they did not tell? Or is this people who outed themselves and then were mad that they were separated from the military?

I just did not see that really defined in the article mentioned in the link in the original post.

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Response to Coronamaker (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:13 PM

13. What difference would it make?

People lost their jobs, often their careers, due to a bigoted and craptastic policy.

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Response to gkhouston (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:41 PM

17. oops. wrong replyee. sorry

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Response to Coronamaker (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:44 PM

18. People were fired when it was found out that they were gay.

Is that cool with you?

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:11 PM

14. That is WONDERFUL!

I'm glad to see them at least taking a step to right the wrong done to these men and women.

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:36 PM

16. Somewhere, Leonard Matlovich is smiling.

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:42 PM

19. I think the retroactive should go back

much further!

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 10:21 AM

20. This is an excellent start!

Very good news. KnR

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:09 PM

21. No It Is Not Fair .. and here's why

What about the thousands, like myself who were discharged, under honorable conditions, way before DADT .. if you are going to compensate these individuals from 2004 on up, then why not all of us who may have had military careers. Also it seems that it is the people in the ranks of Officers who have most to gain, not enlisted men and women. My life would have been so much more different if I never had to go through the humiliation of a ''witch hunt'' that took place on the base in which I served. It was a very scary and horrible ordeal that I have to visit over and over. It was 1977 and I was 20 years old.

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:38 PM

23. My heart goes out to you.

Perhaps your Vet group can contact the American Civil Liberties Union, and bring another lawsuit?

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:05 PM

25. +100000000000000004

 

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:35 PM

22. good fair news indeed. Do they also change discharge papers and allow to serve in same positions?

They should go back to cover all military still living or families with military benefits.

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Response to UrbScotty (Original post)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:02 PM

24. All I care about is strict protection for the LGBT service people

 

There is a percentage that the recruits reason to sign up is to get the tools the millitary teaches them and use it for their own personal will such as political, racial, homophobic, religion, etc. Best case in point I can think of is the Oklahoma City Bomber who was a Gulf War vet and used his millitary teachings against the very country he served under. I know there are plenty of service people willing to work with the LGBT in service, but I wil not be surprised if I see a tragedy happen to our LGBT who serve by a fellow officer who happens to be homophobic.

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