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Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:09 AM

‘Fox & Friends’ Guest Compares Gun Control To The Third Reich

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TOM KLUDT 9:59 AM EST, MONDAY JANUARY 7, 2013

A pro-gun activist who made headlines with an open letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) compared federal gun control laws being considered to policies of Nazi Germany during an interview on Fox News on Monday.

Appearing on "Fox & Friends," Joshua Boston discussed his combative letter to Feinstein before making a series of provocative historical references to convey why he feels threatened by new gun laws.

"It’s something we’ve seen happen time and time again in history, with Stalin," Boston told host Steve Doocy. "It happened in Cambodia. Then of course the Third Reich. No one saw that coming until it was too late."

Watch the exchange:



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Reply ‘Fox & Friends’ Guest Compares Gun Control To The Third Reich (Original post)
DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
samsingh Jan 2013 #1
Tempest Jan 2013 #2
SoapBox Jan 2013 #3
kysrsoze Jan 2013 #26
hughee99 Jan 2013 #28
Taxee Jan 2013 #4
stevenleser Jan 2013 #9
kysrsoze Jan 2013 #27
IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 #5
FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #14
IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 #15
FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #20
IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 #22
Bradical79 Jan 2013 #23
Smilo Jan 2013 #6
Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #12
onehandle Jan 2013 #7
Grins Jan 2013 #8
Squaredeal Jan 2013 #10
obama2terms Jan 2013 #11
LiberalLovinLug Jan 2013 #13
Enrique Jan 2013 #25
BigDemVoter Jan 2013 #16
Nod Jan 2013 #17
DonViejo Jan 2013 #18
Bradical79 Jan 2013 #24
Third Doctor Jan 2013 #19
davidpdx Jan 2013 #21

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:11 AM

1. fox - the network for idiots hosted by bigger idiots

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:12 AM

2. The guy says some pretty disgusting things about women on his FB page

Someone earlier posted screen shots of his comments.

Gun nuts are going to regret tying their horse to this loser.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:18 AM

3. It's ALWAYS the Nazi reference...

over and over and over...if it's something that these PukeBagger types don't like...then it's Hitler and Nazi shit.

STFU Pukers.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:28 PM

26. ... just like that tool, Alex Jones, used last night as well. It's always an orchestrated effort.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:39 PM

28. Yes, I hate those goddamn fascists with their Nazi references...

You never see that on the DU when it's something that people don't like.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:35 AM

4. riddle me this

 

The worse killings in history have beem by governments spinning out of control, Stalin/Lenin murdered 20 million alone, that's a lot of average like us and our families. I think assualt weapons should be banned or controled. But regular hunting riffles and hand guns are the people's right. If people do not like, go move to N. Korea where the gun ban is strong.

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Response to Taxee (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:13 PM

9. I'll riddle you gone, troll. nt

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Response to Taxee (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 01:29 PM

27. Most of Europe has a gun ban, and coincidentally...

many are officially considered the happiest places on earth, with the lowest crime rates. But I do agree with you on hunting rifles (good), shotguns (good) and assault weapons (bad). I'd like to see a handgun ban, but I'm a realist and I know that will NEVER happen.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:37 AM

5. Another young warped mind full of propaganda

 

Your firearms are needed in order to keep what we have as a country going? What???

Banning AR's is a slippery slope to full confiscation?

Are drunk driving laws a slippery slope to ban alcohol consumption?

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 06:26 PM

14. "Are drunk driving laws a slippery slope to ban alcohol consumption?"

Yes. They may be exactly that. The woman who started MADD thought so ... and quit her own organization.

The Irving, Texas–based organization was founded in 1980 in California by Candice Lightner after her 13-year-old daughter was killed by a drunk driver.

Shift from reducing DUI to reducing alcohol use
Lightner had left the group in 1985. In 2002, Lightner stated that MADD "has become far more neo-prohibitionist than I had ever wanted or envisioned … I didn't start MADD to deal with alcohol. I started MADD to deal with the issue of drunk driving".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_Against_Drunk_Driving

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 07:48 PM

15. A slippery slope? Really??

 

If the intent is to bring back Prohibition they're moving awfully, awfully slow. That "slippery slope" is more like a rough uphill climb with hurricane force winds blowing against you.

No slippery slope.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:06 AM

20. Your opinion against the founder of MADD (who certainly was an insider).

I live in Minneapolis where a bridge over the Mississippi fell in '07.

There were pictures from an inspection four years earlier which clearly showed a metal plate -- the one that eventually failed -- buckling. The state did nothing to fix it before it fell. I'm sure anyone who inquired could have been told, "well if that's gonna destroy the bridge, it sure is taking a long time!"

Then it fell.

Waiting for disaster is not a good policy.

Acting to prevent it is much better.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 09:11 AM

22. False equivalence

 

Banning AR's and magazines that hold a gazillions rounds of ammunition is not a slippery slope to full gun confiscation.

Get a grip.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:20 PM

23. There's no comparison between drunk driving, your broken bridge, and gun control legislation.

You are using some extremely poor analogies.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:37 AM

6. Let's settle the facts about Nazi gun control

From - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/09/10/780010/-Let-s-settle-the-facts-about-Nazi-gun-control

In 1928, before Hitler came to power, a Reich Law was enacted to regulate guns. Dealers needed a license. And in order to buy ammunition and own and register a gun, one needed a certificate.

Then, as soon as Hitler became chancellor on January 30, 1933, Nazi party police did indeed start seizing guns from all those deemed enemies of the state. That included communists, socialists and Jews; and five years later, Jewish citizenship was revoked altogether. More, on June 12, 1933, an executive order banned the importation of guns. It eased other pre-Nazi era gun restrictions, however. German Aryans no longer needed a license to own a rifle. They could buy ammunition without a permit. And if you were a state employee, a Nazi Party member or part of a civil defense team, you did not need a license to buy and carry a handgun.

Another gun control law went into effect on April 1, 1938. At that point, it became possible for German citizens (but not Jews or enemies of the state) to buy a handgun with a simple hunter's permit. All limits on buying ammunition were lifted. Carrying a gun in public required a license.

Thus, the Nazi regime's restrictions were on citizenship and political reliability, not on guns per se. Hitler did not seize all the guns in 1934 or any other year...

Thanks to M. Hahn in Tubingen, FRG, for research assistance.

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So basically, the level of gun control was comparable to that of the modern USA, but less than modern Britain or Canada - if you were a citizen.

However, I know that in later years the armed forces required all soldiers in conquered countries to carry handguns. Since there weren't enough guns for everybody, pistols were obtained from every possible source - seizing the guns of the conquered armies, buying guns from Spain, etc. Presumably at some point Germans were asked to give up pistols they owned to equip the troops. Near the end of the war it also became necessary to round up rifles to equip the last-ditch units being formed to stop the Allied advance.

This may have contributed to later confusion about the sequence of events in Germany.

We must also recall the early days when the Brownshirts were a private militia comprising 4 million men, practically all the men in the party. Today's right-wing militiamen should consider what their leaders will do to them if they ever gain control of the government and military.

But I have believed for a very long time that if the right-wingers got into power here, they would find a way to take weapons only from those they hate. The "evolution" of the concept of the enemy combatant under bastards like John Yoo was tending towards the isolation and demonization of enemies of the GOP, such that the main body of American gun-owners would feel no sympathy or personal threat from their disarming if it should occur.

ORIGINALLY POSTED TO SUPER390 ON THU SEP 10, 2009 AT 12:25 PM PDT.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:44 PM

7. So do gungeoneers.

Birds of a feather.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:35 PM

8. To paraphrase A. Wol McDrinky's Reich-wingers...

Newtown changed everything.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 03:28 PM

10. Everone has a gun

By 1945, just about every male over the age of 15 had a firearm in Germany. It don't them any good, did it?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 04:44 PM

11. Yes because gun control caused 12 million people to be killed their

ignorance is contagious. Many people would find his statement offensive especially if you're a holocaust survivor!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:10 PM

13. So what about modern day Germany then?

What has history taught them?

Oh......I see they have a strict gun control policy.

And they had 1.1 per 100,000 of gun related deaths in a year

the US had 10.2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:25 PM

25. not to mention

Israel

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 08:15 PM

16. They have got to be the most asinine idiots on the entire planet. . .

Their analogies are completely illogical, not to mention dumb as hell. . . Their ideas are tailored especially for the folks who watch Fox. I guess that's why Faux is so popular.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:21 PM

17. Peace

No guns! And there will be no violence! And no crime! That is the only way!!!

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Response to Nod (Reply #17)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 09:42 PM

18. Dream on and...

enjoy what will probably be your short stay at DU.

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Response to Nod (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:22 PM

24. Foolish statement by a foolish person -nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:01 PM

19. So the fascists are calling the Obama administration fascists

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 08:01 AM

21. It's already become a Facebook meme with the right

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