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Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:12 AM

 

"I want the world to know my daughter's name is Jyoti Singh Pandey"

Source: The Mirror



She is known to the world only as India’s Daughter following her sickening gang rape and murder.

But today, with permission of her devastated father, we can reveal her name: Jyoti Singh Pandey.

Brave dad Badri, 53, told The Sunday People: “We want the world to know her real name.

“My daughter didn’t do anything wrong, she died while protecting herself.

“I am proud of her. Revealing her name will give courage to other women who have survived these attacks. They will find strength from my daughter.”

Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/india-gang-rape-victims-father-1521289

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Reply "I want the world to know my daughter's name is Jyoti Singh Pandey" (Original post)
UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 OP
NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1
historylovr Jan 2013 #2
Still Sensible Jan 2013 #3
davidwparker Jan 2013 #4
ReRe Jan 2013 #5
jsr Jan 2013 #6
Skittles Jan 2013 #7
roguevalley Jan 2013 #30
juajen Jan 2013 #8
FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #12
SemperEadem Jan 2013 #16
Alameda Jan 2013 #24
FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #41
SemperEadem Jan 2013 #50
FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #52
roguevalley Jan 2013 #31
FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #43
roguevalley Jan 2013 #45
FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #48
Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #49
cosmicone Jan 2013 #39
FleetwoodMac Jan 2013 #42
cliffordu Jan 2013 #9
onestepforward Jan 2013 #10
mokawanis Jan 2013 #11
LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #13
DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #14
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #33
awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #35
cosmicone Jan 2013 #15
Mister Ed Jan 2013 #27
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #34
newfie11 Jan 2013 #17
duhneece Jan 2013 #18
Solly Mack Jan 2013 #19
samsingh Jan 2013 #20
Bigmack Jan 2013 #21
Odin2005 Jan 2013 #22
ProfessionalLeftist Jan 2013 #23
CrispyQ Jan 2013 #25
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #36
McCamy Taylor Jan 2013 #26
joanbarnes Jan 2013 #28
WillyT Jan 2013 #29
billbailey19448jj Jan 2013 #32
colorado_ufo Jan 2013 #37
calimary Jan 2013 #38
Lucky Luciano Jan 2013 #40
DeSwiss Jan 2013 #44
sonias Jan 2013 #46
1983law Jan 2013 #47
PoliticalPizza Jan 2013 #53
lovuian Jan 2013 #51

Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:14 AM

1. Rec #1. (nt)

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:19 AM

3. K & R and

Rest in peace, Jyoti

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:52 AM

5. K&R

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:54 AM

6. R.I.P.

And hang the assholes.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:55 AM

7. thank you Mr. Pandey

for honoring your daughter, someone who did nothing wrong and whose name should not be hidden

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Response to Skittles (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:27 PM

30. I posted on a small card in my front window:

Her name was Jyoti Singh Pandey

Anyone who comes to my house will hear the story.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:41 AM

8. Millions of women and men are horrified by what happened to this brave girl

and her friend. India goods will no longer be purchased by me unless they change their sick culture where women are in danger even with an escort. What is wrong with this country? They should not make money from our country when they are deadly to women. Shame on them! Shame on us if we buy anything made in India again.

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Response to juajen (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:37 AM

12. I cried a couple of times reading about her over the last few days...

but what has this got to do with boycotting Indian products?

If you want to make a statement, there are plenty of worse countries where women are culturally and politically oppressed. India, especially the larger cities, are relatively progressive in their treatment of women. Heck, there are still countries that do not allow women to vote, and more that place restrictive requirements on them.

Besides, these kinds of atrocities happen everyday to women, and the only reason you are hearing about this particular one is because of the explosive national outrage in India.

What do you propose to do about the recent cover up of the gang rape of a 16-year old student in Ohio? It very nearly succeeded. Thank goodness a video leaked showing the boys from the football team bragging about the gang rape. Should we boycott the state of Ohio too?




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Response to FleetwoodMac (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:27 AM

16. if that's how they want to express themselves

then what does it have to do with you?

If you dont' agree, then don't follow suit.

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Response to SemperEadem (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:24 AM

24. It's good to have another point of view, and this one is well put.

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Response to SemperEadem (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:00 PM

41. And do I not have the right to express my opinion on it?

Especially since her logic is flawed?

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Response to FleetwoodMac (Reply #41)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:34 PM

50. 2 non sequiturs

1. your rights aren't the issue.
2. "flawed logic" is a judgemental opinion.

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Response to SemperEadem (Reply #50)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 12:21 AM

52. Why not?

If one person has a right to express an opinion, doesn't it stand to reason that another should have the right to disagree with it? If one person advocates a course of action, doesn't it stand to reason that another should have the right to challenge it, advocate a different one, or maintain the status quo?

Further, the statement is a textbook definition of symbolic logic. If A implies B, ergo A obviously implies C. Since the original statement does not take into account D, E, F, G and so forth, then it is flawed. For whatever reason/s, the original statement clearly does not take into consideration other prevailing elements, namely, the national and worldwide statistics on rape, before reaching a conclusion. Thus it is flawed, and that's not an opinion.

I'm becoming increasingly disturbed by the number of D.U posters that are sympathetic to the idea of boycotting India based on this horrific incident.

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Response to FleetwoodMac (Reply #12)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:29 PM

31. actually, its a step. hit a people in their pocketbook and things change

they don't value women and saying other countries are equally appalling as a reason not to is bunk IMO. Boycott away.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #31)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:03 PM

43. By that reasoning, once again, should we boycott products from Iowa...

as well as the other 49 states and one federal district where rape occurs too?

While we're at it, should we boycott Canada and Mexico, as well, for a start?

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Response to FleetwoodMac (Reply #43)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:36 AM

45. sure why not. if you are going to be that lame, why the hell not. its better than

sitting around wringing our hands. Jeez.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #45)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:14 AM

48. Jeez?

You're calling me lame, but is supportive of selectively boycotting Indian products based on... what was that again - "they don't value women"?

I pray that you actually have some statistics to back that statement, because I'm getting really uncomfortable by the hidden message behind your words.

In any case, would you also enlighten me as to why we should boycott India, but not Michigan, which has three of the most dangerous cities in the world for women?

Before you respond, you should know that in 2010, India, with a population of well over a billion, had 22,172 cases of rape (about 1 in 45,000). The United States, on the other hand, with a population of over 300 million, recorded 84,767 cases of rape (about 1 in 3,500). You can make an argument that rape cases may be under-reported in India, but it still does not detract from the fact that as a country, the United States has the second highest number of reported rape cases in the world - just behind South Africa.

To paint an even clearer picture, we are ranked eleventh in the world for rape incidences per 100,000 people.

South Africa / 120
Botswana / 92.9
Sweden / 63.5
Nicaragua / 31.6
Grenada / 30.6
United Kingdom / 28.8
Saint Kitts & Nevis / 28.6
Panama / 28.3
Belgium / 27.9
Northern Ireland / 27.7
United States / 27.3

So if you're going to start with all this talk of boycott and "valuing women", then start here.

Sigh. I'm actually very shocked that I am even having this discussion on D.U.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #45)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 04:31 AM

49. So it's lame to boycott the US, but not lame to boycott India?

What's the logic behind that one?

Y'know, I live in a country that's been accused by the Indian government of being racist towards their citizens, but I had a few WTF moments when I've read some stuff online over the past few weeks that takes the anger and horror at what was done to Jyoti Singh Pandey to a level when it starts to come across as a bit like there's a different standard being applied when it comes to rapes and murders in India as opposed to Western countries. Brutal gang rapes and murders have happened here in my little corner of Western First Worldism. And I remember reading of one horrifying incident where a woman was raped in a park at night in full view of passerbyers who kept on walking. What I don't remember was outraged howls to boycott us coming from Americans...

Don't get me wrong. One of my friends was born in India and had a pretty fucked up upbringing and as an adult wouldn't argue back with her father if he told her she was doing something she didn't want to do, like being married off to some guy she didn't know. She also couldn't bring herself to look men in the eyes, something I only noticed after she told me. So I'm aware of how anti-woman things are in some parts of India and how far things still need to go, but I'm not seeing how blaming the Indian government and the population in general for this rape and murder makes sense. I haven't seen anything that makes me think the government's covering this one up or treating it lightly, and after seeing the outpouring of anger from people in India, I'm not seeing what's to be achieved in boycotting them...

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Response to juajen (Reply #8)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:38 PM

39. There is no rape culture in India

any more than any other country.

In fact, since India has twice as many women as the US has people, the total number of rapes is actually lower than the US.

The issue is lethargic and apathetic response by authorities to the rape complaints and not an epidemic of rapes.

By and large, Indian culture celebrates gender equality. India has elected a woman prime minister twice and a woman president. Several MPs and ministers have been women. India's first foreign minister (Vijayalaxmi Pandit) was a woman, nearly 50 years before Madeleine Albright.

Hindu religion has very powerful goddesses as well as gods. In fact, anything worth possessing, fame (kirti), wealth (laxmi), knowledge (vidya), intelligence (buddhi), education (saraswati), power (shakti) is a feminine noun with a female goddess associated with it.

What you are implying is that Indian males are somehow more prone to rape a woman than other men in other cultures which is manifestly untrue.


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Response to cosmicone (Reply #39)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:01 PM

42. Very well said!

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:48 AM

9. There are no words.

K&R.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:09 AM

11. R.I.P. Jyoti Singh Pandey

I believe her father is correct in saying her name will give courage to others who are coping with trauma.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:12 AM

13. RIP Jyoti Singh Pandey

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:39 AM

14. This is a REAL man

One that does not allow little man-boys to undermine his daughter.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:58 PM

33. +1 you speak truth. n/t

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:01 PM

35. Yes...

and I cannot imagine the pain he must feel.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:48 AM

15. Jyoti means a flame in Sanskrit and

while hers was extinguished, she has lit up a firestorm that will bring justice to victims of rape worldwide and put fear in the minds of men who may venture to rape.

Good for him and her. Long burn the Jyoti to bring justice.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:22 PM

27. +1. Long burn the flame. n/t

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:00 PM

34. yes

Very cosmic perspective. Good.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:27 AM

17. Rec

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:56 AM

18. Jyoti Singh Pandey gives me strength

Thank you for revealing her name.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:31 AM

19. k/r

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:43 AM

20. please remember

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:24 AM

21. K & R

Rest in Peace. Be proud of your father as he is proud of you. Ms. Bigmack

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:29 AM

22. A good dad!

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 10:29 AM

23. He is very brave as well. My heart breaks for him

and the rest of her family. The World should never forget her.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 11:34 AM

25. Peace to Jyoti Singh Pandey.

All I can say is they’re not human, not even animals. They’re not of this world.


Peace to this man & his family.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #25)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:02 PM

36. ...

__/\__

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:08 PM

26. I can only imagine the pain he is feeling now.

RIP, Jyoti Singh Pandey

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:19 PM

28. I hope and pray this family finds comfort.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 01:41 PM

29. K & R !!!


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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 02:56 PM

32. You're a good man Badri. May your poor daughter rest in peace.

 

The sick bastards who were responsible for inflicting such pain and misery to Jyoti will face great retribution, one day. That's for certain.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:55 PM

37. Jyoti Singh Pandey

Blessings on her and her family, and may she rest in peace.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:09 PM

38. Recommended. Your cause is ALL of ours as well, sir.

And your daughter is my daughter.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 09:56 PM

40. I feel so bad for this man and his family. nt

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:01 AM

44. K&R n/t

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:01 AM

46. I grieve for her with her family

Every time I hear more about this case I feel a huge pain in my heart. I would say to her father Badri, that his daughter Jyoti Singh Pandey is in fact the entire world's daughter. We will never forget her name, her courage or your families' heartbreak.

We are all proud of Jyoti Singh Pandey.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:08 AM

47. What a beautiful name....

 

And a brave and loving father.

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Response to 1983law (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:53 AM

53. Remembering her as a person and not a victim

Her father is doing the right thing by breaking tradition and not hiding in shame. She did nothing wrong. Her attackers did.
By knowing her name and speaking it, she can be remembered and can be a symbol for outrage and change. Jyoti Singh Pandey.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 02:27 PM

51. She will be remembered

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