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Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:11 PM

Politico Breaking News: House to allow vote on Senate passed fiscal cliff bill

Source: Politico

POLITICO Breaking News

01/01/2013 08:01 PM EST (expires: 01/01/2013 09:01 PM EST)

The House plans to vote tonight on the Senate-passed bill to avert the fiscal cliff. Passage in the House, which is expected, would clear the bill for law since President Barack Obama has said he will sign the legislation.

The decision to move to an up-or-down vote comes after House Republicans internally rejected a plan to amend the bill with a package of spending cuts. That move would've likely killed the bill, allowing taxes to go up on all Americans.

Read more: http://politico.com

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Reply Politico Breaking News: House to allow vote on Senate passed fiscal cliff bill (Original post)
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 OP
TomCADem Jan 2013 #1
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #4
question everything Jan 2013 #2
flpoljunkie Jan 2013 #5
blaze Jan 2013 #11
4dsc Jan 2013 #17
Cha Jan 2013 #20
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #22
Orangepeel Jan 2013 #13
question everything Jan 2013 #16
Cha Jan 2013 #21
Orangepeel Jan 2013 #25
Cha Jan 2013 #26
demwing Jan 2013 #27
bemildred Jan 2013 #28
denbot Jan 2013 #3
Poll_Blind Jan 2013 #6
Recursion Jan 2013 #7
BlueStreak Jan 2013 #8
Recursion Jan 2013 #9
DCBob Jan 2013 #10
Recursion Jan 2013 #12
BlueStreak Jan 2013 #14
SunSeeker Jan 2013 #19
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #23
Tx4obama Jan 2013 #15
bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #18
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2013 #24

Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:14 PM

1. WaPo - "House could vote Tuesday on Senate cliff deal"

What happened to the "developing consensus" to amend the bill and send it back to the Senate to try harder?

House Republicans reversed course Tuesday evening and charted a course toward likely passage of the bipartisan agreement struck in the Senate to avoid the worst effects of the “fiscal cliff,’’setting up a late-night vote to complete a dramatic day in which the critical legislation appeared to be endangered for several hours.

In a second meeting with GOP members Tuesday, House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and Majority Leader Eric I. Cantor (R-Va.) outlined the options for handling the Senate plan while explaining the high “risk” involved with approving a different bill that might die in the other chamber, according to lawmakers exiting the evening session. Such an outcome could make the House GOP the public face of a failed effort to avert automatic tax hikes and spending cuts and possibly cause a public outcry as taxes on every American worker would jump.

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But the House’s initial negative reaction threatened to plunge Washington back into the high-stakes, last-minute drama that has characterized both the fiscal cliff negotiations and a series of other recent confrontations between the two parties over spending and taxes, including last year’s fight over raising the federal borrowing limit.

Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) said a “consensus” was developing that the GOP should amend the Senate’s plan to attach additional spending cuts. “I would be shocked if the bill did not go back to the Senate,” he said.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:20 PM

4. Perhaps cooler heads prevailed as votes were perhaps not there for an amended bill

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:15 PM

2. Which two Democrats voted NO in the Senate? (nt)

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Response to flpoljunkie (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:42 PM

11. Bennet!!!

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Response to flpoljunkie (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:07 PM

17. Good for all three of these men.

This deal is crap.

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Response to 4dsc (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:10 PM

20. Senator Bernie Sanders and Senator Sherrod Brown did not think

it was "crap". Neither did VP Biden.

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Response to 4dsc (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:34 PM

22. Bennet and Carper wanted SS and Medicare cuts. nt

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Response to question everything (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:44 PM

13. Bennet: doesn't reduce the debt. Harkin: neglects the middle class. Carper: not a grand bargain

The article is behind a pay wall, but here are the three paragraphs about the Democrats.

The Eight Senators Who Voted ‘No,’ And Why

Sen. Michael Bennet (D., Colo.): “For four years in my townhall meetings across the state Coloradans have told me they want a plan that materially reduces the deficit. This proposal does not meet that standard and does not put in place a real process to reduce the debt down the road. While I do support many of the items in this proposal – for example, extending unemployment insurance, the wind production tax credit and tax cuts for most Americans – I believe they should have come in the context of a comprehensive deficit reduction package. Without a serious mechanism to reduce the debt, I cannot support this bill.”

Sen. Tom Harkin (D., Iowa): “I am all for compromise, but not one that sets a new tax threshold for the wealthiest while neglecting the middle class.” (via Twitter)

Sen. Tom Carper (D., Del.): “Unfortunately, the deal the Senate passed this morning is not the grand bargain that I, and many of us, had hoped for, and that’s why I ultimately voted against it. While I commend the work of Vice President Biden and others in finding a way for us to avoid some of the bad elements of the fiscal cliff, there was a better way to solve this problem and we should’ve seized the opportunity to do so. … When push came to shove, we walked away from entitlement and meaningful tax reform, at least for now. Rahm Emanuel, former chief of staff to President Obama, is fond of saying, ‘Never waste a good crisis.’ I’m afraid that we’ve just wasted a doozie at a time when our President’s bargaining power was at its zenith.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/01/01/the-eight-senators-who-voted-no-and-why/

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:01 PM

16. Thanks. You'd think that Harkin, at least

has been around for a long time to realize that the name of the game is to get when you can when you can.

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:15 PM

21. thanks Orangepeel! I've been wondering about Bennet and Carper..

already knowing Harkin's view.

Bennet must know this is as good as they're going to get with the opposition party that doesn't support the Middle Class Working People or the Poor People. Or even care to have any responsibility of how to run a country.

Senators Bernie Sanders and Sherrod Brown thought it was the way to go for our Country and they have a good Record For The People.

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Response to Cha (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:55 PM

25. Bennet and Carper seemed to have wanted something worse.

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:09 AM

26. Oh, well, that makes more sense. thanks

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:24 AM

27. A summary of the three reasons

Bennet: We didn't get everything I wanted, so I voted No.

Harkin: People making between $250k-$450k got a break I didn't want them to get, so I voted No.

Carper: We didn't use this crisis to "reform" entitlements, so I voted No.

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Response to demwing (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:52 AM

28. It's not often I disagree with Harkin, but here I do.

It's not the people making UNDER $5 million a year we have to worry about, it's the ones that consider that chump change.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:15 PM

3. Umm.. I'm rooting for the fleabaggers carry the day.

Interesting times indeed.

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Response to denbot (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:25 PM

6. It's like an upside-down bizarro world.

It really is.

PB

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:29 PM

7. And that ends Boehner's speakership

Feel free to bookmark this and call me out if I'm wrong; I don't think he can survive that.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:37 PM

8. No. Quite the opposite

If there were votes to upend Boehner as speaker, then there would have been the same votes to upend Boehner on the "cliff" vote.

This shows for certain that Cantor cannot knock off Boehner. And it also shows Boehner very clearly that he can't trust Cantor for anything. This is a lasting wound.

Basically Cantor made his move today -- and failed.

Awkward.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:39 PM

9. Oh, I see your point

I keep forgetting the Hastert rule works both ways. Well, we'll see.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:41 PM

10. correct.

Boehner is safe.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:43 PM

12. Yeah, I had that backwards. I've been off the Hill for a while.

He bought his speakership at the cost of his caucus. It's happened before, now that I think of it.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:47 PM

14. When you go to kill the king, it is really important that

you actually kill the king.

Coming up "a little short" in the king assassination business usually has some unpleasant consequences.

We shall see.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:59 PM

19. Yes, when you shoot at the king, don't miss.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 10:36 PM

23. "Do not wound the Prince"--Machiavelli. nt

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:57 PM

15. LIVE STREAM LINK to The House debate and vote


Here: http://www.c-span.org/Events/House-to-Take-Up-Senate-Fiscal-Cliff-Bill-Tonight/10737436933-4/

There will be 'at least' one hour of debate before the vote.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 09:15 PM

18. What's the Tea Party afraid of?

They're not going to allow some little tax increase on millionaires to
derail the budget, are they?

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:05 PM

24. Passed 257-167, per MSNBC!



BTW, they're saying that Boehner and Ryan voted for it; Eric Cantor voted against it.

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