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Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:20 PM

Governor to sue NCAA over Penn State sanctions

Source: AP-Excite

By PETER JACKSON

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) - Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over stiff sanctions imposed against Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal.

The Republican governor scheduled a Wednesday news conference on the Penn State campus in State College to announce the filing in U.S. District Court in Harrisburg.

The sanctions, which were agreed to by the university in July, included a $60 million fine that would be used nationally to finance child abuse prevention grants. The sanctions also included a four-year bowl game ban for the university's marquee football program, reduced football scholarships and the forfeiture of 112 wins.

The governor's office announced the news conference late Tuesday afternoon. His spokesman did not respond to repeated calls and emails seeking to confirm a Sports Illustrated story that cited anonymous sources saying a lawsuit was imminent.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20130101/DA3HMF9G0.html





In this Nov. 10, 2011 file photo, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett makes remarks during a news conference after a Penn State Board of Trustees meeting in State College, Pa. Corbett said Tuesday, Jan. 1, 2013 he plans to sue the NCAA in federal court over sanctions imposed against Penn State in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sexual abuse scandal. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke, File)

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Reply Governor to sue NCAA over Penn State sanctions (Original post)
Omaha Steve Jan 2013 OP
Ash_F Jan 2013 #1
Posteritatis Jan 2013 #13
Earth_First Jan 2013 #2
bucolic_frolic Jan 2013 #3
daa Jan 2013 #4
PSPS Jan 2013 #5
SoapBox Jan 2013 #6
Tempest Jan 2013 #7
Earth_First Jan 2013 #10
benld74 Jan 2013 #11
Tempest Jan 2013 #22
Earth_First Jan 2013 #28
Tempest Jan 2013 #29
Earth_First Jan 2013 #31
booley Jan 2013 #43
underpants Jan 2013 #8
Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #9
muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #12
AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #16
Tempest Jan 2013 #23
former9thward Jan 2013 #30
Tempest Jan 2013 #33
LynneSin Jan 2013 #42
malthaussen Jan 2013 #14
AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #15
Tempest Jan 2013 #24
obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #17
RobinA Jan 2013 #18
msanthrope Jan 2013 #20
obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #21
JVS Jan 2013 #25
Tempest Jan 2013 #34
JVS Jan 2013 #36
Tempest Jan 2013 #38
Xithras Jan 2013 #27
liberal N proud Jan 2013 #19
JVS Jan 2013 #26
Fastcars Jan 2013 #32
jmowreader Jan 2013 #40
Tempest Jan 2013 #35
Doctor_J Jan 2013 #37
ReformedGOPer Jan 2013 #39
LynneSin Jan 2013 #41

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:22 PM

1. As is to be expected of the Republican party. /nt

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:39 PM

13. I dunno, I expect this to have some defenders here

A whole hell of a lot of people on DU were pretty unhappy with the idea that PSU needed to get punished for massive ongoing institutional failures; they'll perk right up at this.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:27 PM

2. No doubt some VERY wealthy alumni and Corbett donors are behind this...

Follow the money.

Outside Penn State; the general public feels PSU got what it deserved...

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:29 PM

3. I hope this arrogant prig

fails horribly in court.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:29 PM

4. Put criminals in jail, why punish future athletes for crimes

That no athlete committed?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:32 PM

5. Because republicans are all about child sex abuse

Remember the Franklin coverup?



More at: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2003/02/06/15709461.php

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:33 PM

6. Hey Gov...ya know, you really should just STFU and let this thing go away.

SO many at the school were guilty of enabling Coach Pervert.

Just take the medicine like a man and SHUT UP.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:37 PM

7. Corbett is trying to head off an investigation into his role in the case

Kane was elected AG on the promise to find out what Corbett knew, when he knew it and what he did to derail a thorough investigation into the crime.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:45 PM

10. Link?

Do you have a link off hand...?

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Response to benld74 (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:26 AM

22. Some people need to be led by the nose

I miss the days when everyone did their own research.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:06 PM

28. Are you fucking kidding me?

Led by the nose?

Sure I could have Googled it myself, and yielded a dozen or more stories...

I thought perhaps, you would have a really great link out of all the available options and would be willing to link it for the overall informative nature that DU is known for.

You sound like a jackass!

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:10 PM

29. By admitting you could have googled it yourself...

You're admitting you want to be led by the nose.

And from those dozen or more stories you would have gotten the complete picture of the case. That is assuming you would take the time to research in the first place.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:28 PM

31. Oh my!

Get over yourself.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:34 PM

43. you know

it's not earth first's responsibility to prove someone else's argument.

IF someone appears to make an outrageous claim, it's acceptable to ask for proof and it's up the person making the claim to provide that proof.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:38 PM

8. Yeah latch onto Sandusky

Good lord

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:38 PM

9. What's that? You want to double the penalty?

 

Ohhh, how about they boot your sorry asses out of the NCAA all together.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 08:35 PM

12. Is it really a governor's responsibility to get a university football games?

I know it's a state university, but surely the state's responsibility is in the area of education, not recreation?

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:04 AM

16. One word: Revenue.

That's what it's all about.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:27 AM

23. Second word: Complicity

Read up on Corbett while AG and his attempts to derail and prevent an investigation into the crimes.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:18 PM

30. If you want to avoid investigations a lawsuit is the last thing you want to do.

Lawsuits lead to depositions on both sides where anything can be asked and investigated.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:50 PM

33. The investigation is coming regardless

AG Kane ran and won on the platform of investigating Corbett's involvement in the crimes.

Corbett is trying to get ahead of the investigation by trying to get Penn State fans (which include the governor and probably all the legislature) to pressure her into not investigating him.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:00 AM

42. Corbett knows the only way he can hold off the investigation by the new Attorney General in PA...

is to hopefully rally the fans around him.

This lawsuit is nothing more than a lame attempt to look like 'The Good Guy' when he knows in a few weeks new PA Attorney General Kathleen Kane is going to investigate why Corbett's AG term did nothing when they knew about Sandusky back in 2008.

Corbett didn't want to go after Sandusky for one reason only -Corbett felt he would have pissed off PSU fans and lost their vote in the 2010 governor election.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:33 AM

14. No better evidence required to prove the sanctions valid.

For this reason and that, I found the NCAA's actions a bit odd, but if Corbett is going to stick his nose in it, then I'll have to withdraw my objections. What a transparent effort to curry favor and deflect attention from his own role in the case.

-- Mal

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:03 AM

15. Huh. I thought Penn State got off relatively lightly.

The NCAA could have just shut down the whole program.




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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:28 AM

24. The feds should pull all funding and uncreditate the university

It was a conspiracy.

RICO statutes should apply.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 06:04 AM

17. Talk about some nerve

He's up to his neck in the whole Paterno-Sandusky thing, and he's doing this?!

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:46 AM

18. Are People Missing

the point? My understanding of this suit is that it is to have the sanction money spent in PA, not the nation as a whole. This, to me, makes sense, as there is probably a fair amount of tax dollars involved here. As a PA tax payer and someone in no way, shape, or form contected with PSU, I would prefer that this money (regardless of how I feel about the appropriateness of the sanction), be spent in-state. The ultimate destination of this money is important to me, because I generally feel it will end up lining pockets of the sports establishment rather than furthering any social cause. Frankly, I think it a money grab by the NCAA wrapped in santimony.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:04 AM

20. As another PA taxpayer, I think it's hypocritical to particpate in a national organization,

drawing in revenues from around the nation, and recruiting from around the nation, and then demand that the fine money you have to pay for covering up a child sex abuser be spent in your great state.

Corbett's just trying to forestall the critique that the 60 mil is something he 'lost' for the state.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:07 AM

21. I "get" his point

He really has some nerve.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:35 AM

25. +1. The NCAA shouldn't get to plunder PSU, that money will be needed for the lawsuits by victims.

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Response to JVS (Reply #25)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:52 PM

34. As the poster above you said

You don't get the benefits of being a member of the NCAA and not expect to pay the penalties when rules are broken.

PSU is lucky they're still open. If I was the head of the DOJ, I'd shut them down using RICO.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #34)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:43 PM

36. I think this lawsuit is a reasonable undertaking, as the NCAA' authority to levy the fine isn't...

beyond question. My position is covered here http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021025948

Now, you talk about if you were head of the DOJ. The DOJ is part of the justice system and has standing to impose all kinds of punishments. The NCAA is merely an organization formed by a coalition of college athletics departments in order to promote their business interests. If the NCAA decides that it does not want to conduct further business with PSU, that is fine with me as it is their right. But I have a big problem with the NCAA deciding that it will seize large quantities of money belonging to a state school and thereby at the ultimate expense of the Pennsylvanian taxpayer.

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Response to JVS (Reply #36)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 05:07 PM

38. "The NCAA is merely an organization formed..."

Patented nonsense.

The NCAA has had and has always had punishments built into their contracts with their members. You sign an agreement which contains those punishments.

By LEGAL CONTRACT the NCAA has the right to issue fines.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:48 AM

27. I can see the problem from that perspective.

It's a handover of $60 million taxpayer dollars to what is, in essence, a privately held sports organization. More importantly, those are $60 million taxpayer dollars that were earmarked by the legislature for education. It's probably improper for a school employee to be arbitrarily signing it over without approval from the state government.

The NCAA should have levied its fine the same way the Big Ten did. Rather than demanding lump sum payments, the Big Ten has decided to simply divert bowl revenue from Penn State for the next few years. Penn State will feel the loss, but they'll never touch the penalty dollars themselves and there's no danger of private sports revenue being mixed up with public educational dollars.

Of course, I'm also not opposed to simply eliminating the Penn State athletics programs entirely for a few years as a penalty.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:33 AM

19. The NCAA could just kick them out of the organization.

Penn State chose to be part of the NCAA and that mean abiding by their rules and suffering the consequences when said rules are broken.

The Governor is worried more about the trophies and less about the souls.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 11:36 AM

26. Kick them out, but leave the $60,000,000

That's the taxpayers' money.

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Response to JVS (Reply #26)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:44 PM

32. Isn't $60 milion about what the football team brings in every couple of years.....

I don't know that it is fair to say that the $60 million fine is "taxpayer's money".

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Response to JVS (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:44 AM

40. The $60M is probably tied to football gate revenue

Big-time college football is the NFL Development League. They could pay that fine without a nickel of tax money.

They SHOULD get quite a bit from Sandusky and some from JoePa's estate, but they won't.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:54 PM

35. How much has PSU earned being a member of the NCAA?

I'm betting it far surpasses the amount of the fine.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:53 PM

37. I would love to see the DoJ dig into this

and expose the ties between Corbett, Sandusky, and the 3rd Mile. Corbett cut taxes for Sandusky's foundation, which then gave it back to him in "campaign contributions". Please, open up this can of worms, Holder.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:57 PM

39. As our former AG

Corbett knew all about Sandusky for at least three years before it became public. PSU alumni (which make up probably half of the state's population) are pissed as hell at him for not finding a way to stop/bury/hide the whole thing years ago. Of course, he couldn't do anything about it and still run for Governor. Corbett knows that our new AG (a Dem) ran on the promise of a complete investigation of the cover-up at Penn State. Corbett is merely trying to get some of the richer alumni on his side.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 07:54 AM

41. Corbett knows in a few weeks he is going to be investigated on how he fucked up the Sandusky case

Corbett knew about the Sandusky case back in 2008 when he was the state Attorney General and yet all he did was assign the MINIMUM to investigate the case (he assigned one state police).

If Joe Paterno had to lose his job because he knew and did nothing then so should Corbett. Hell Corbett took campaign contributions from Sandusky's charity Second Mile when he (corbett) was running for Governor.

In a nutshell Corbett is hoping this lawsuit will rally the PSU fans around him and help stave off the investigation into the crime. Personally I hope PSU fans lead the way because perhaps if Corbett did his job then Paterno's job might have been spared.

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