Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:51 PM
Stuart G (9,771 posts)
Senate Dems Balk At Last-Minute GOP Fiscal Cliff Demand
Source: Talking Points Memo
The parties are nearing agreement that the Bush tax rates, including on capital gains, should be locked in for income up to a minimum of $450,000. Republicans would like to kick that up to over $500,000. Democrats are also prepared to make permanent the current low estate tax, which is set to increase, and apply to much less valuable estates, in 2013.
In exchange, Democrats are asking to extend expiring unemployment benefits, and Medicare physician payments, without offsetting spending cuts.
The net effect of the measure would likely not reduce the deficit. But it would set up a spending-cut cliff early next year. And Democrats are balking. They insist that automatic spending cuts scheduled to take effect later this week be put off for longer than three months, as Republicans have offered.
And on the Senate floor Monday morning, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA), chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, panned the deal, and argued that any deal should be cut from a post New Year’s baseline after all the Bush tax cuts have expired.
Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/fiscal-cliff-debt-limit-sequester-bush-tax-cuts.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
These four paragraphs are lower in the article...So we don't really know what the final deal is..but the Republicans look like they will get their way on the estate tax...and the 450,000 number. I wonder if progressive dems will go against the deal, as the article kinda implies..
We will know in a couple of hours..or so..
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Response to Stuart G (Original post)
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:57 PM
Zephie (1,363 posts)
1. All it sounds like is more "We'll deal with it later"
But maybe I'm misunderstanding. We're just moving the drive off the cliff off by a few months is what I got out of this.
Response to Zephie (Reply #1)
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:19 PM
Jackpine Radical (43,370 posts)
3. We're giving away some long-term concessions
on tax cuts for the wealthy in return for short-term benefits like Unemployment Insurance & temporary fixes to provider reimbursement rates for Medicare.
It doesn't smell like a winner to me.
Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #3)
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 10:27 PM
bowens43 (15,257 posts)
4. absolutely. This is a HUGE loss for Democrats.
Once again Democrats refuse make a stand. When the going gets tough Democrats run away. 'No deal' would have been preferable. Then we would have the needed revenue and huge cuts in military spending. And of course now that they try to sneak this in at the very last moment on New Years eve it's not even possible to protest to our representatives.
The way this was done is slimy...