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Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:04 PM

India Rape Victim Dies in Hospital.

Source: CBS News

Indian gang rape victim dies in hospital
December 28, 2012

SINGAPORE A young Indian woman who was gang-raped and severely beaten on a bus in New Delhi died early Saturday at a hospital in Singapore, the hospital said.

The 23-year-old victim "died peacefully," according to a statement by Singapore's Mount Elizabeth hospital where she was being treated.

The woman's horrific ordeal galvanized Indians, who have held almost daily demonstrations to demand greater protection from sexual violence, from groping to rape, which impacts thousands of women every day, but which often goes unreported.

She and a male friend were traveling in a public bus on Dec. 16 evening when they were attacked by six men who raped her and beat them both. They also stripped both naked and threw them off the bus on a road.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57561187/indian-gang-rape-victim-dies-in-hospital

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Reply India Rape Victim Dies in Hospital. (Original post)
Hissyspit Dec 2012 OP
LoisB Dec 2012 #1
LiberalEsto Dec 2012 #2
TrogL Dec 2012 #3
obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #4
MichiganVote Dec 2012 #5
awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #31
warrior1 Dec 2012 #6
Laurian Dec 2012 #7
LineReply .
Skittles Dec 2012 #8
closeupready Dec 2012 #9
benld74 Dec 2012 #10
OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #11
Ohio Joe Dec 2012 #12
Paulie Dec 2012 #13
Maine-ah Dec 2012 #14
Sienna86 Dec 2012 #15
riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #16
JI7 Dec 2012 #19
southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #17
IcyPeas Dec 2012 #18
southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #21
Derek in Iowa Dec 2012 #20
pansypoo53219 Dec 2012 #22
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #23
cali Dec 2012 #24
FrodosPet Dec 2012 #37
Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #25
mn9driver Dec 2012 #26
BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #27
bluesbassman Dec 2012 #28
Tx4obama Dec 2012 #29
Odin2005 Dec 2012 #30
obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #38
Behind the Aegis Dec 2012 #32
alphafemale Dec 2012 #36
fujiyama Dec 2012 #33
Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #34
raccoon Dec 2012 #35
gauguin57 Dec 2012 #39
sbmvv Dec 2012 #40

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:09 PM

1. May she rest in peace and may karma pay a visit to her attackers.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:10 PM

2. Damn!

That poor woman. I hope she is beyond pain, and bathed in love and light.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:12 PM

4. Poor young woman

I hope her death at least leads to some changing laws and societal attitudes.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:14 PM

5. They killed her. So much for freedom for women.

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:25 AM

31. It may be unpopular to say..

But countries like India are extremely patriarthical. This is common in second and third world nations. Women equate to cattle.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:15 PM

6. Rest in Peace

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:15 PM

7. Oh, dear. That is very sad....a bright

young woman (medical student if I recall correctly) senselessly brutalized. I hope that change will result from this atrocity.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:15 PM

8. .

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:16 PM

9. Sigh.

Words fail.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:17 PM

10. Prayers to her and her family, karma to her attackers

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:17 PM

11. Raped to death...

 

Jesus.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:18 PM

12. RIP - nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:24 PM

13. :-(

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:30 PM

14. I know it's the DM, but....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254075/Indian-gang-rape-victim-takes-turn-worse-doctors-reveal-23-year-old-students-organs-failing.html

Victim of horrific Indian gang rape DIES in Singapore hospital after doctors reveal 23-year-old student suffered heart-attack and organ failure

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:33 PM

15. How terribly sad

I was wishing she would pull through.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:39 PM

16. Horrific. May her death spark the outrage to create real and lasting change.



RIP.

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:00 PM

19. hopefully though there have been multiple gang rapes

reported after it. and a bunch of sexist politicians blaming the women.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:46 PM

17. Excuse me how can she have died peacefully. Shame on India. People of the world

 

should boycot going there. Shame, shame, shame. Where the hell were the other people on the bus?

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:52 PM

18. If you read this story,

Last edited Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)

the rapists were friends of the driver..... there was no one else on the bus.

The victims, a 23-year-old physiotherapy student and her male friend, were on their way home after watching a movie in Saket in South Delhi. They boarded a bus that was being driven by joyriders at about 9.30 pm. The woman became suspicious when the bus deviated from its normal route and its doors were shut. When she objected, the group of six men already on board taunted the couple, asking what they were doing alone at a late hour


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Delhi_gang_rape_case

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:34 PM

21. I understand. I was just think her poor body just couldn't cope anymore and lost the

 

will and her body just died.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:37 PM

22. execute by pipe.

use it on them as they did on her.

AFTER they spend time in a public cage.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:46 PM

23. Damn it!

Our word has become a cold and cruel place to be. What one human being does to another. There are no words to describe this horror.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:54 PM

24. the world was ever like this.

this isn't a new phenomena.

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Response to cali (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 09:07 AM

37. This is the unfortunate truth

People with no historical education and/or rose colored glasses seem to think humans being evil is a recent phenomenon. The difference is, in the information age, you see and hear more about what is going on all around the world.

In any event, somehow this species needs to get pat "I don't give a fuck".

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:08 PM

25. RIP dear one. This tweet sums it up:

 

Spencer: For Hire ‏@OakFoSho

RT @dELYSEious: WHAT THE HELL, @BBCnews? You can't "pass away peacefully" from a fucking gang rape, you assholes. http://bbc.in/WOeMqB

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:50 PM

26. Murder.

Particularly foul and evil. I wonder if the Indian justice system is capable of charging her attackers appropriately?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:52 PM

27. Good god. . . .

And those who have been protesting against this atrocity have been beaten and arrested.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:35 PM

28. Rest In Peace.



May your attackers be brought swiftly to justice and know not a minute of peace or comfort for the rest of their days.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:49 PM

29. Kick. n/t

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 09:32 PM

30. "died peacefully"??? What crap!

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #30)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 09:15 AM

38. They probably mean she was hospiced into death

ie drugged with morphine until she just... stopped.

I had read she had almost total organ failure, and significant brain damage, so I am thinking she was sent off without pain.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:32 AM

32. "died peacefully" ?! WTF?!

As far as I am concerned, her death was a direct result of rape! I hope all of those who did this are brought to justice.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:24 AM

36. Her last conscious moments were pain and panic

peaceful my ass

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 04:04 AM

33. As an American of Indian origin

this just infuriates me.

The only bright side is, this particular incident has struck a deep chord within many in the country and the protests show that both women and men are not going to stand for this. India is a great example though of a country with a bunch of laws on the books, but where the rule of law seems to mean nothing.

India is a deeply conservative society. We can't expect it to turn into say, Sweden, overnight. But I really hope my cousins over there have the freedom to travel without fear. What happened is simply not acceptable in the 21st century.

In the Indian press the 23 year old is known as braveheart. But unless there is meaningful change in India in the way women are treated, there is no way to say she died "peacefully".

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 04:26 AM

34. Sad

very sad.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:45 AM

35. k&r nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:49 PM

39. Chemically castrate the creeps who committed this crime ....

... and lock them up and throw away the key. Let other creatures who would rape and beat a woman that way see what will happen to them. They're obviously completely amoral Neanderthals and won't be swayed by common humanity or reason.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Dec 31, 2012, 11:11 AM

40. If I may offer a viewpoint on this.

I hope that as a Hindu, male of Indian descent I am not viewed as persona non-grata on this particular thread.

Like any right-thinking person, I am as disgusted and sickened by this crime as I am of any rape.

It was a particularly horrendous event and I pray that somewhere her soul will find peace and that her family will eventually find solace.

However, I am heartened that Indian civil society is angered across the spectrum. Do not underestimate the power of such anger - it cut across party lines, across caste and socio-economic backgrounds.

Now to some statistical perspective on Rape in India.

In India, it is suggested that only 10% of rapes are reported.

See:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/The+iceberg+of+rape/1/46911.html

Note something interesting from the article:

"People from the upper class and the middle class do not report rape cases. It is mostly the people from the lower class that come out to seek police intervention."

Horrible statistics to be sure but consider even in the United States the following:

"It's widely recognized that rape is one of the most underreported offenses in the United States with empirical studies estimating that merely 15-20 percent of cases are reported to the police,"

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gE1QS2fCilbjwmlhX-gawdmUgk_g

If we are to compare 2009 statistics for the US and 2011 statistics for India we see that the in the US there were 88,907 rapes reported and in India there were 24,206.

I will leave the mathematical scaling due to under-reporting to you.

Even in as safe a place as the United Kingdom we have this stunning analysis:

http://www.surrey.ac.uk/mediacentre/press/2009/16532_between_7090_rapes_thought_to_go_unreported_and_94_of_reported_cases_dont_end_in_a_conviction.htm

"Fear of not being believed, not wanting to get their attacker - who is often known to them - into trouble and a sense that they could or should have avoided the assault mean only a fraction of rape cases are being reported. Of those reported, 50-66% are dropped by police, and of the remaining cases that go on to be considered by the Crown Prosecution Service, 33-50% are discontinued.

About 14,000 cases were reported last year to police, but academics suggest there to be seven times as many unreported cases."


What angers the protesters in India is the apparent intransigence of officials.

When Indian police choose to act, they do arrest and charge somebody in 93.8% of reported cases. However, the conviction rate (based on the total number of reported cases) is 26.4%. This is a sharp drop from 46% in 1971 but apparently (and to me shockingly) still higher than the conviction rates in the UK, the US and even Sweden. Indeed it would appear that 15/16 rapists in the US go unpunished (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gE1QS2fCilbjwmlhX-gawdmUgk_g)

However, to get those results, the victim (even when the police are well-intentioned - which does on occasion occur ), is put through a horrible ordeal. There is no sensitivity or apparent compassion shown and of course in some cases the Police are reluctant to do anything (witness what happened to the poor girl who committed suicide after the Police forced her to drop the case) and are in collusion with the criminals.

Even after overcoming those hurdles, the Court process is stunningly slow. Cases drag on and on. Each day that passes demoralizes the victim who is usually bereft of much needed support.

Until that changes, the outrage and the anger will grow against the authorities.

Furthermore, women in India - especially in urban areas - are subjected to widespread sexual harassment that has been termed (idiotically in my view) eve-teasing which makes a simple daily commute a horrendous experience.

It should be noted that we are not talking about a majority or even a substantial minority of Indian men doing this but that it occurs on a very wide scale in undeniable.

Delhi, it should be noted, is the worst offender in this regard (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/delhi-witnesses-more-rapes-than-the-next-five-metros-put-together/311263-3.html).

This is where the blame cannot solely lie with the authorities but with a deeper societal malaise.

Also, patriarchy, arranged marriages and religious affiliation are red-herrings in this debate.

We know that India was seemingly safer for women in 1953 and these assaults on women - verbal physical or otherwise - while by no means unknown - was much less prevalent and that when the country was even more tradition bound and held in the thrall of such practices and beliefs.

Don't misunderstand me - I do not support patriarchy or the conservative interpretations of religious texts used to subordinate women. I simply say that things have gotten worse even when there have been strides in shaking the old order.

The issues are not closely linked. The old order has to be shaken up and some of it dismantled for reasons unconnected with rape.

Certainly a patriarchal society can easily become misogynistic as parts of India (read Haryana and Punjab) have become.

However, India's religious patriarchy or social-ills (and there are many) do not explain why in countries where they don't exist, crimes against women and rape in particular are so common as to be almost endemic.

See for example Korea:

http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/2009/08/high-rates-of-subway-sexual-harassment-in-korea-and-japan/
http://asia-gazette.com/news/south-korea/127
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/07/south-korea-confront-rapes-after-girls-death/
http://thegrandnarrative.com/category/korean-feminism/sexual-harassment-korean-feminism/

or the links I provided for the US and the UK.

Or am I misreading things and that even the developed world (and I include Korea in that) has a strong misogynist undercurrent that no progress heretofore made is able to curb crimes against women and to get higher conviction rates?


I firmly believe that the rise in crime against women in India is as a result is an unresponsive, unsympathetic and corrupt police force, a lack of adequate victim support from either family or society and a ponderous judicial system where law-breakers are unpunished.


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