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Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:24 PM

High-Capacity Magazines Bill To Be Introduced By Democrats On First Day Of Congressional Session

Source: Huffington Post

House Democrats will introduce legislation to ban the production of high-capacity magazines on the first day of the next congressional session, the office of Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), one of the lawmakers sponsoring the bill, told The Huffington Post.

The Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act will mirror a failed bill introduced during the 112th Congress. Its authors hope that in the wake of the shooting deaths of 20 first grade students in Newtown, Conn., there will be heightened political urgency to act when it is reintroduced on Jan. 3.

Backed by DeGette and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), the legislation has gained a wave of Democratic co-sponsors since the shooting, which also claimed the lives of 7 adults. But few Republicans have come forward to offer their support. Even more critical to the bill's political prospects, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has not indicated whether he will allow it to come to the floor for a vote.

Still, backers are hopeful, noting that a ban on high-capacity magazines -- which have been involved in many of the recent high-profile instances of mass gun violence -- would be a smaller concession for gun-rights advocates than a broader assault weapons ban.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/high-capacity-magazines-bill_n_2376838.html?1356722014

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Reply High-Capacity Magazines Bill To Be Introduced By Democrats On First Day Of Congressional Session (Original post)
cal04 Dec 2012 OP
Panasonic Dec 2012 #1
NickB79 Dec 2012 #6
Cosmocat Dec 2012 #8
dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #2
hack89 Dec 2012 #10
geckosfeet Dec 2012 #3
onehandle Dec 2012 #4
NickB79 Dec 2012 #5
michreject Dec 2012 #7
hack89 Dec 2012 #9
dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #11

Response to cal04 (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:31 PM

1. Fine, a discharge petition will be needed.

 

If Boehner is being an asshole as usual, and wants to hold up the bill, then he's not going to be a speaker come Jan 3rd.

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Response to Panasonic (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:18 AM

6. Even if it is brought up in the House, the GOP will vote it down

We don't have the votes to overright them; they control the House.

All we can hope for is that their votes can be used against them in the future to get more Democrats voted into the House.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:04 AM

8. I just can't see ANYTHING coming from this

First, will Boehner put it up?

Second, you are right that even if EVERY democrat voted for something in the House, it is going to be hard to find the 20 or so republican's to get a simple majority in the House.

FURTHER, you will NOT get all the House democrats to sign on to ANY bill that limits in ANY WAY firearm possession in ANY way.

It is a LONG time until 2014, and any democrat in a close, dead split or Repubican leaning district knows FULL well that by then the moment for this will have passed, and he or she WILL get beat over the head by 30 second tv and radio ads screaming about he or she ATTACKING GUN RIGHTS!

I think a conservative estimate on house democrats who would not touch ANY firearm legislation is 25 at least.

That means you have to find at least 50 republicans, 50 HOUSE republicans, who will vote for it.

These jackasses could not even pass their own BS, political showcase "Plan B" bill in the face of the FISCAL CLIFF hype.

Boehner could put it up and it has about a 1% chance of passing. But, I question if he will put it up because while republicans will scream, but SOME DEMOCRATS did not vote for it, so it is not OUR FAULT, it still will lay at their feet that it won't pass. So, he will get a lot of blowback not just by the House Clown Posse for allowing them to embarass themselves, but also establishment Rs.

I just don't get why people can't get just how bad this House of Representatives is. It is clear as day to me, but it seems lost on the "liberal media" types and even a lot of democrats.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:41 PM

2. What would they do about existing holdings

if a ban was put in place on production and presumably sale too? Buy it all back?

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:11 AM

10. No proposals are retroactive as far as I know.

whether it is this ban or the AWB.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:55 PM

3. I think BG checks and storage requirements would round that out and improve efficacy

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 07:50 PM

4. Fantastic! To Hell with gun fucks! nt

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 12:15 AM

5. Yeah, I'm sure the GOP will get right on that

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:45 AM

7. I honestly don't think that anything will get done

until after the 2014 elections. And then, only if we win the House back and keep the Senate.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 08:10 AM

9. "would be a smaller concession for gun-rights advocates than a broader assault weapons ban."

sounds like they are backing away from an AWB. Or just facing political reality.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Dec 29, 2012, 09:45 AM

11. Would that just ban US production

without necessarily any effect on imports assuming they are made elsewhere ?

I ask such questions because being UK the subject in general is of no consequence here given that it is illegal to be in possession of any form of live ammunition other than the limited amount allowed to those holding firearms licenses.

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