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Omaha Steve

(99,479 posts)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:03 AM Dec 2012

Iowa joins in denying driving right to immigrants in federal program

Source: Omaha World Herald-AP

IOWA CITY (AP) — Iowa will not issue driver's licenses to young immigrants who entered the country illegally but are now eligible to work in the United States under a federal program, state officials said Thursday.

President Barack Obama announced a policy change in June that allows some illegal immigrants to apply for temporary work permits if they were brought into the country as children. The “deferred action” program lets them seek a renewable two-year reprieve from deportation if they meet age, residency and education requirements.

But the Iowa Department of Transportation said state law does not allow it to issue driver's licenses or identification cards to people who are in the country illegally.

State lawyers concluded that the federal program does not extend lawful status to the immigrants and does not offer them a pathway to citizenship, said Paul Trombino III, director of the Iowa Department of Transportation.

FULL story at link.



Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20121228/NEWS/712289938/1685#iowa-joins-in-denying-driving-right-to-immigrants-in-federal-program

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wercal

(1,370 posts)
1. Interesting
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:12 AM
Dec 2012

In the past I have seen stories that Iowa was accepting of Mexican immigrants, illegal or not, in order to alleviate shortages of labor and just plain population decline/stagnation.

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
2. Well, most of us are. We got tea party governor who is looking to make his bones
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:22 AM
Dec 2012

Branstad. One of the founders of the pee party.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
9. he is not a friend of any workers even legal
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:24 PM
Dec 2012

In 1991, Branstad ignored binding arbitration with employees of the State of Iowa's labor unions by vetoing a salary bill, was taken to court, and lost later in appeals in the state court system (AFSCME Iowa Council 61 et al., v. Branstad).

but as for the tea party, I thought he was not conservative enough and did not get their support

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
11. Branstad was one of the founders
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 08:26 PM
Dec 2012
http://www.alec.org/about-alec/history/

At that meeting, in September 1973, state legislators, including then Illinois State Rep. Henry Hyde, conservative activist Paul Weyrich, and Lou Barnett, a veteran of then Gov. Ronald Reagan’s 1968 presidential campaign, together with a handful of others, launched the American Legislative Exchange Council. Among those who were involved with ALEC in its formative years were: Robert Kasten and Tommy Thompson of Wisconsin; John Engler of Michigan; Terry Branstad of Iowa, and John Kasich of Ohio, all of whom moved on to become governors or members of Congress. Congressional members who were active during this same period included Senators John Buckley of New York and Jesse Helms of North Carolina, and Congressmen Phil Crane of Illinois and Jack Kemp of New York.

Branstad wants to be a tea party hero, he just needs a chance. That was why keeping that one seat edge in the senate for Dems was such a big deal last election.
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
3. The "shortages of labor" was caused, in part, by owners of meat-packing plants who wanted
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:35 AM
Dec 2012

greater profits by cutting the wages of meat-cutting workers who were here in this country legally.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. They broke the unions 30 or 40 years ago.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:28 PM
Dec 2012

I was once a member of the Amalgamated Meat Cutters and Butcher Workers of America, working at IBP's Dakota City, Nebraska, plant. That used to be good money. Seems like wages dropped by about half after the unions were gone.

And by the way, there were Mexican workers at IBP way back in the day, too. That's where I first developed my interest in Spanish and things Latin American. While the local guys were bitching and moaning, those Mexican dudes were grinning, sharpening their knives (literally), and talking about facil dinero (easy money).

wercal

(1,370 posts)
12. In Kansas we have Somali immigrants
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 03:08 AM
Dec 2012

...working in the meat plants. I have no idea how Somalis are connected to the meat industry; and I wonder if they are indentured servants sometimes.

And of there are also lots of Mexicans in the plants, especially in the southwest part of the state.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
15. A federal law was passed that forced the states to tighten up license requirements
Sun Dec 30, 2012, 09:09 AM
Dec 2012

Years back in the aftermath of 9/11.

Well, back when it was passed, there was no concept of this highly nebulous "deferred action" thing, so the current laws in a lot of states don't have any provision for it.

Don't slam a state for what is at least largely caused by federal action.

WilmywoodNCparalegal

(2,654 posts)
4. I get the question all the time
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:50 PM
Dec 2012

we have a couple of newly hired employees who are authorized to work pursuant to deferred action. They are upset that DMV will not issue a driver's license.

Here's how I explain it. First of all, the program is called 'deferred action' because it means that the action (which is deportation proceedings) has been deferred (a/k/a delayed), thanks to the President's act and because the beneficiaries meet the requirements. All that means is there will be no deportation proceedings initiated or pursued against these beneficiaries for as long as the act remains in force.

However, this does not grant any immigration status to the beneficiaries. While they can work with EAD cards (EAD = employment authorization document), technically they don't possess any immigration status.

Therefore, most states have DMVs that require proof of legal status in the U.S. prior to releasing driver's licenses. Since these beneficiaries don't have a legal status, the DMV cannot issue a driver's license.

Unfortunately, the disconnect between federal immigration laws and state DMVs happens even to those who have legal status to be in the U.S.

For instance, a person who has an H-1B visa will usually be granted a driver's license that expires when the visa expires. However, as per immigration law, a person in H-1B status is automatically allowed to continue to work and be legally present in the U.S. once USCIS receives the extension filing. An H-1B person switching from a company to another is also entitled to begin working for the new employer as soon as the petition to change employers has been received by USCIS.

However, the DMV will not issue a renewed driver's license until the actual case has been approved (months down the road) and the approval notice from USCIS has been obtained. So the conundrum is that under federal immigration laws these people do have the legal status they need even without an approval notice from USCIS, but the state DMV will only consider the actual approval notice from USCIS. In other words, the state DMV doesn't care one bit about federal immigration law.

This results in quite a few H-1B employees who don't have a valid driver's license. Ridiculous.

marble falls

(56,956 posts)
5. Great. Even more unlicenced and uninsured drivers on the roads. Iowa used to be a very smart state..
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:27 PM
Dec 2012

how did they get dumbed down to knee-jerk teabillies?????????????

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
6. well if an "illegal" in any state that allows "illegals" drivers licenses
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:56 PM
Dec 2012

those "illegals" can drive in any state in this country.

i guess they just can`t keep those "illegals" off the roads in the usa. well unless they throw them in jail for driving while brown.

alp227

(31,997 posts)
10. Correct, per the Full Faith and Credit Clause.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:43 PM
Dec 2012
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec1.html

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."

Which is why the law in my state allows any adult visitor with a valid DL from another US state to drive on our public roads.

However, different states have different standards regarding immigration status/DLs, so if the illegal immigrant from a state that'd grant a license formally relocates to Iowa then no DL for said immigrant.
 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
13. Excellent! That ensures certain minorities will never vote Republican.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 07:18 AM
Dec 2012

Incredible how inclusive Republicans try to be.

kiranon

(1,727 posts)
14. Perhaps creation of a federal driver's license for those
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 02:39 PM
Dec 2012

eligible for and in federal programs that allow them to stay in the U.S. despite immigration status problems.

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