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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:42 PM

Jack Reed hasn’t made up his mind about filibuster changes

Source: WPRI

U.S. Sen. Jack Reed says he hasn’t made up his mind yet about whether to support a push by some of his colleagues to change the Senate’s filibuster rules to make it harder for Republicans to block legislation.

“I haven’t made a conclusion,” Reed told WPRI 12′s Tim White last week. “I am looking very carefully.”

“I am – as I have had to do with everything – thinking very carefully about what we’re doing so that I can make the best possible decision on behalf of all Rhode Islanders and indeed, when it comes to procedures in the Senate, for the country at large,” Reed said. “Not just for the moment, but for the future of the country.”

Reed and about 10 other Democrats who remain on the fence about the filibuster changes are coming under heavy pressure from liberal groups to back the proposal after the GOP made heavy use of procedural roadblocks to stymie President Obama’s agenda. A poll they released this month suggested a majority of Rhode Islanders back the idea in theory.




Read more: http://blogs.wpri.com/2012/12/26/jack-reed-hasnt-made-up-his-mind-about-filibuster-changes/



I've made it clear to DSCC and any candidates coming to me for support (which they've already started to do; I had breakfast with a US Senator up for re-election two weeks ago), that opposing filibuster reform will be a deal-breaker as far as my money goes.

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Reply Jack Reed hasn’t made up his mind about filibuster changes (Original post)
brooklynite Dec 2012 OP
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #1
brooklynite Dec 2012 #3
Volaris Dec 2012 #6
leftyohiolib Dec 2012 #17
annabanana Dec 2012 #19
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #21
elleng Dec 2012 #2
fredamae Dec 2012 #4
Chakab Dec 2012 #5
world wide wally Dec 2012 #7
msongs Dec 2012 #8
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #10
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #9
Purveyor Dec 2012 #15
Phlem Dec 2012 #11
Gregorian Dec 2012 #12
grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #13
FreeBC Dec 2012 #14
Vincardog Dec 2012 #16
Third Doctor Dec 2012 #18
julian09 Dec 2012 #20
blackspade Dec 2012 #22
davidpdx Dec 2012 #23

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:50 PM

1. I don't believe in the filibuster to begin with...

 

But, what comes around goes around.

Anybody who supports this has to be prepared for the Republicans to exploit it the next time they control the Senate.

What will you say then?

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:04 PM

3. I will say I have no assurance the current GOP will preserve it when THEY next take control...

...so, might as well fix things now.

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:19 PM

6. That if this gets done right, and the Dem's use it to govern effectively,

it will likely be a good long while before the GOP has 51 votes in the Senate again.

Fuck em. If the GOP wants to abuse this fix when they get back into (Senate) Power, then they can OWN the stupid shit they do with that Power, and get themselves un-elected (again).

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:58 PM

17. i believe this bunch of pubes will vote to destroy it as soon as the dems try to use it

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:29 PM

19. I say it will NOT be a problem when the Dems are in the Minority.

The way the proposed legislation is written, "motions to commit" cannot be filibustered, which means only that legislation WILL BE DISCUSSED (no problem there)

AND

filibusters must be "talkng filibusters".. so everyone will get a chance to see what the objection is. I'm pretty damn sure that Democratic policies are MUCH more popular with Americans that repub policies are.. (Often to the tune of 70-& %)

When a lengthy filibuster is in progress, the media will not be able to ignore it and will be FORCED to cover the policy.

It pretty easy to see who's just being obstructionist and who is being principled.

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Response to annabanana (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:27 PM

21. great points.

 

I'm convinced.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:51 PM

2. X-Post this in Rhode Island, please.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:04 PM

4. It's important to reform the filibuster for reasons

not even lawmakers consider-We the people.

If lawmakers wish to filibuster then We should be able, by a stand up-talking filibuster, to fully understand facts, reasoning and conclusions held by any lawmaker in support Or oppisition to any bill addressing any issue.
This allows Us to be more fully informed when we engage our lawmakers as we participate in our own governance.
The filibuster was reformed to it's current form in 1975, the same year ALEC was founded.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:08 PM

5. Pathetic.

n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:19 PM

7. We worry about how the lack of a filibuster will effect policy if the Republicans ever get

another majority in the Senate along with a Republican President. However, I have no doubts whatsoever that such a Senate would pass its own filibuster rules and not allow Democrats the right to filibuster.

Think about it.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:43 PM

8. stupid democrats still believe republicans have any kind of honor. nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:47 PM

10. They blew up the Senate during the past 4 years

During this last session, the Republicans obviously had no intention of honoring their "gentleman's agreement" and just went right back to obstructing everything, believing that they'd be in charge in January (which is obviously not going to happen now). This needs to change and I don't mind that Democrats will be held to the same rules in future Congresses if they wind up back in the minority. Bills should fail or succeed on their merits and nothing else IMHO.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:44 PM

9. There has GOT to be SOME kind of reform to filibuster rules IMHO

We have literally reached the point where a MINORITY of 41 Senators can control the chamber, which was never intended to happen. It should not be allowed to prevent a bill from reaching the floor where it can be debated. If people want to fight a bill, they need to be up speaking out about it and telling the rest of us why it's a good/bad bill. Otherwise, the majority should be able to bring a bill to the floor for a vote and let the chips fall where they may. Bills should fail (or succeed) on their merits, not on procedural technicalities IMHO.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:37 PM

15. Indeed. eom +1

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:49 PM

11. Sounds like someone needs

their 15 minutes of fame. He also deserves a public ass kicking from constituents and colleagues.

-p

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:49 PM

12. These guys are so afraid of rocking the boat. It seems that Congress is about not rocking the boat.

I"m sick of it. The boat is sinking anyways. Rock it.

Don't look too closely, Reed, you might miss the forest for the tree you're staring at.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:01 PM

13. Let's see, when the GOP filibusters every bill, and the Dem's filibuster none, who does it benefit?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:21 PM

14. Any Democrat not voting for filibuster reform MUST be considered a mole.

 

It must be a top priority to remove them from office. Democrats that help block the democratic platform are not true democrats.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:56 PM

16. Are there any Liberal Democratic primary challengers in the wings? Post a link for my donation.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:20 PM

18. He is one of the reasons the Dem

party when had clear majorities were not as effective. Why would you not support a movement that would untie you own party's hands?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:07 PM

20. To do otherwise would give the win to the Gop 100% of the time

 

when in minority or majority.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 07:24 PM

22. DINO alert!

I haven’t made a conclusion,” Reed told WPRI 12′s Tim White last week. “I am looking very carefully.”


Code for: I'm a spineless two-faced weasel.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:04 PM

23. Crap, we could be down several votes down

from the 50 we need (the assumption with that would be that Biden would break the tie). Last I heard Kerry and Feinstein were flapping in the wind.

I'm getting the feeling this isn't going to happen. What a crock of shit.

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