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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:15 PM

Teacher Brings Loaded Gun To Minnesota School For Fear Of Newtown Shooting

Source: Huffington Post

Fear over the Newtown school shooting prompted a Minnesota teacher to bring a loaded gun to school last week, forcing a school lockdown. The unnamed teacher, a female in her 50s, has been placed on administrative leave from Seward Montessori School in Minneapolis.

"This is the first case like this I've ever heard of," Minneapolis police Sgt. Bill Palmer told KMSP. "In this day in age in this week, handguns in schools are of great concern to everyone."

Acting on a tip from a staff member, the school principal alerted the school resource officer, who confiscated the gun from the teacher, in her 21st year of employment at the school. The loaded .357 Magnum handgun was in the educator's locker in the teacher's lounge, according to the Star Tribune. School officials confirm that no students or staff were harmed or injured.

While the teacher was not arrested, she could face misdemeanor charges for violating conditions of her Minnesota conceal carry permit, which prohibits firearms in schools without written permission from a principal or school official.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/25/teacher-brings-loaded-gun_n_2362989.html

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Reply Teacher Brings Loaded Gun To Minnesota School For Fear Of Newtown Shooting (Original post)
onehandle Dec 2012 OP
bongbong Dec 2012 #1
LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #34
aaaaaa5a Dec 2012 #2
Laurian Dec 2012 #3
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #10
coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #19
Odin2005 Dec 2012 #4
bowens43 Dec 2012 #5
alp227 Dec 2012 #11
SoapBox Dec 2012 #15
alp227 Dec 2012 #16
PavePusher Dec 2012 #30
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #24
Turbineguy Dec 2012 #26
MichiganVote Dec 2012 #6
HERVEPA Dec 2012 #8
glinda Dec 2012 #7
Speck Tater Dec 2012 #9
Aristus Dec 2012 #12
sofa king Dec 2012 #14
azurnoir Dec 2012 #13
triplepoint Dec 2012 #17
Turborama Dec 2012 #38
geomon666 Dec 2012 #18
John2 Dec 2012 #23
oddoneout Dec 2012 #31
FourScore Dec 2012 #32
davidpdx Dec 2012 #20
knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #21
Blandocyte Dec 2012 #22
47of74 Dec 2012 #25
DrDan Dec 2012 #27
no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #28
OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #29
FourScore Dec 2012 #33
devilgrrl Dec 2012 #35
PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #36
Paladin Dec 2012 #37

Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:21 PM

1. !!!!

 

> The loaded .357 Magnum handgun was in the educator's locker in the teacher's lounge

Very secure. Those teacher lockers in the lounge can stand up to a 1/4" screwdriver, so it's good that the 3/8" and above sizes are rare and only owned by a few dozen people in the entire world.

What insane nuts the Delicate Flowers are.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 03:47 PM

34. One teacher that failed to think it through.

The woman doesn't provide a good example for a teacher in her profession. Hope she does better with the classes that she does teach.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:23 PM

2. This is the NRA's proudest moment for sure. nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:27 PM

3. What good would a gun in a locker be in the event of an assault?

Seems more likely it would fall into the wrong hands than be available for "defensive purposes". Damn, the whole country has gone crazy.....

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Response to Laurian (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:17 AM

10. It is. Generally when one scratches under the veneer of the US there is a lot of crazy to be found.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 04:15 AM

19. "Totally and completely fucked in the head" is the operative phrase, I think. Maybe

 

she was one of LaPierre's demonstration projects.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:40 PM

4. *FACEPALM*

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:13 PM

5. This woman should get jail time........and a lot of it.

anyone who carries a handgun anywhere for any reason should face jail time.

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:04 AM

11. Uhh, what about self-defense?

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Response to alp227 (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:39 AM

15. Say, you bring up a great question!

In, say 2011, how many "defense" killings were there vs. murders, with guns?

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:03 AM

16. Hmm...

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/ascii/hvfsdaft.txt

"38% of the victims defending themselves with a firearm attacked
the offender, and the others threatened the offender with the
weapon."

"In most cases victims who used firearms to defend themselves or
their property were confronted by offenders who were either unarmed
or armed with weapons other than firearms. "

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use/index.html

" Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments and are both socially undesirable and illegal

We analyzed data from two national random-digit-dial surveys conducted under the auspices of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. Criminal court judges who read the self-reported accounts of the purported self-defense gun use rated a majority as being illegal, even assuming that the respondent had a permit to own and to carry a gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly from his own perspective."

"Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense.

Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Center, we examined the extent and nature of offensive gun use. We found that firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate than they are used in self-defense. All reported cases of criminal gun use, as well as many of the so-called self-defense gun uses, appear to be socially undesirable."

I agree, what's the cost-benefit analysis of guns in self-defense vs escalating confrontations/other violence?

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:57 PM

30. One need not kill someone to succesfully defend oneself. n/t

 

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:08 PM

24. So,

 

If I legally take a handgun to the range tomorrow you think I should go to jail even though I haven't violated any laws?

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:38 PM

26. Or at least be persuaded to stop

watching Fox News.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:14 PM

6. Well, while I don't condone it, can you blame them? Jesus, they're scared witless.

But oh well, they're all a bunch of union thugs anyway so fuck em' right?

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:25 PM

8. Yes I can blame them for this.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:20 PM

7. It didn't help that the Police Chief bragged on TV that "they already have guns in our schools".

They aired that sucker over and over again. Meanwhile the conservative Chief (who has had several past offenses, charges and lawsuits btw) bragged how he had a seat at the table with Obama telling him this. The NRA is working very hard right now in MN. to scare the crap out of the public. They started with the wolf hunt in my opinion. Shock and awe.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:39 PM

9. I wonder what the reaction will be when an armed teacher accidently shoots a student. nt

 

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:15 AM

12. "Well, if that student had had his own gun, that wouldn't have happened".

That's the reaction; to the letter...

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Response to Aristus (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:29 AM

14. Bwahahaha!

It would be even funnier if it weren't so damned true.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:29 AM

13. wow that is a surprise and sad too n/t

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:08 AM

17. The Tree of Knowledge is FULL of NUTs!

 

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A Moment of Introspecting a "Kid"
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Response to triplepoint (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:59 PM

38. Bookmarking for this ^

Thanks for taking the time to put it all together.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 02:19 AM

18. Can't really blame her.

Every single kid in that school probably plays violent video games.

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Response to geomon666 (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:29 AM

23. I have

 

played violent video games all my life and haven't murdered anyone. That guy speaking for the NRA is an idiot. You cannot kill some one with a violent video game but you can with a gun. I've seen violent movies also as well as millions of other people. This stuff is just rightwing propaganda so the Right can support their point of view. They will never concede they are wrong, just like the tax issues. They are just like a cult. so this calamity Jane will still support her guns.

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Response to John2 (Reply #23)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:30 PM

31. i have

 

owned guns for a long portion of my life, and i haven't murdered anyone.

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Response to geomon666 (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:52 PM

32. HAH! You had me for a moment there. n/t

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:44 AM

20. Call me cynical

But I have to wonder if she and other teachers are going to do this to prompt lawsuits when their employers take action against them. Could NRA members be trying to challenge any rulings that would prevent a teacher from bringing a gun to school?

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:26 AM

21. This is why teachers shouldn't have concealed carry.

Like I keep telling my students, I'd just be giving someone a weapon, as it would be pretty easy to take it away from me or get it out of any hiding place, and there are too many teachers who shouldn't be armed.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:54 AM

22. Craziness. Did she expect something like this:

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:34 PM

25. Another case of not thinking....

And some crazed gunman is going to allow her to run down to the teacher's lounge, grab her gun out of her locker, and then come back?

Ok...

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:44 PM

27. "misdemeanor" - endangering the entire school and will receive only a slap on the wrist . . if that

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:48 PM

28. Maria Montessori called her schools the "Children's House".

Bringing a gun to school is unconscionable under any circumstances, but to a Montessori school! Jesus!

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #28)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:51 PM

29. My thought exactly! Of all schools, a Montessori school...

Sounds like she doesn't belong in the Montessori program.

Geesh...

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #28)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:55 PM

33. Seriously! n/t

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:25 PM

36. That teacher has no business in a classroom.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 08:13 AM

37. She Can Be Wayne LaPierre's Date At This Year's NRA Banquet.


She'll be a nice change from Ted Nugent....

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