Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:14 PM

alp227 (20,500 posts)

Chinese Driver Runs Down Students

Last edited Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:28 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Source: NYT

A man angry over a court ruling in the case of his daughter’s murder used his car to run down a group of high school students in northern China, causing 13 to be hospitalized with injuries, the local government and the state news media reported on Tuesday. It was the second major attack on students in China in less than two weeks.

The man, Yin Tiejun, 48, ran down 23 students at the school in Fengning County, in Hebei Province, during their lunch break on Monday, Xinhua, the state news agency, reported. He then tried to set fire to his car by igniting a container of diesel fuel. Xinhua quoted the police as saying he was upset that the court had not sentenced all of his daughter’s killers to death. Mr. Yin was detained on charges of endangering public safety.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/world/asia/chinese-driver-runs-down-students.html

But according to the right wingers citing violent incidents in China, people would just kill using cars or knives if they can't get guns!

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14 replies	Author	Time	Post
Chinese Driver Runs Down Students (Original post)	alp227	Dec 2012	OP
He didn't kill any of them	Sekhmets Daughter	Dec 2012	#1
Not for lack of trying. nm	Flatulo	Dec 2012	#4
And that is the entire point....	Sekhmets Daughter	Dec 2012	#5
The NRA now has it's ammo - so to speak	lame54	Dec 2012	#2
He needed to do track/target practice	caseymoz	Dec 2012	#3
Wait a minute, doesn't diesal need to be compressed to burn?	mindwalker_i	Dec 2012	#6
I think it needs to be turned into a mist/vapor.	Angleae	Dec 2012	#7
Both, to explode.	HooptieWagon	Dec 2012	#8
Not exactly.	JoeyT	Dec 2012	#10
All I can say is ...	tabasco	Dec 2012	#9
Yes it is.	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2012	#14
I have an ex-girlfriend from that area. She's from Fengning.	Nanjing to Seoul	Dec 2012	#11
Is every single article posted to 'Breaking News' these days just being posted as a...	OneMoreDemocrat	Dec 2012	#12
Not just LBN	Angleae	Dec 2012	#13

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:23 PM

Sekhmets Daughter (7,121 posts)

1. He didn't kill any of them

Had he an AR-15 Bushmaster, he could have killed all of them....not sarcasm.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:36 PM

Flatulo (3,963 posts)

4. Not for lack of trying. nm

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Response to Flatulo (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:57 PM

Sekhmets Daughter (7,121 posts)

5. And that is the entire point....

without a weapon designed for the sole purpose of killing, he failed in his attempt.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 03:33 PM

lame54 (13,347 posts)

2. The NRA now has it's ammo - so to speak

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 04:19 PM

caseymoz (5,185 posts)

3. He needed to do track/target practice

his auto-marksmanship was deplorable.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:07 PM

mindwalker_i (1,473 posts)

6. Wait a minute, doesn't diesal need to be compressed to burn?

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:50 PM

Angleae (2,072 posts)

7. I think it needs to be turned into a mist/vapor.

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Response to Angleae (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 06:35 PM

HooptieWagon (6,363 posts)

8. Both, to explode.

Last edited Tue Dec 25, 2012, 06:39 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Of course it will burn. Making a mist merely causes it to burn faster. The heat generated by very high compression will make the mist explode.

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Response to mindwalker_i (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:36 PM

JoeyT (4,549 posts)

10. Not exactly.

The way I understand it as the compression on diesel increases the temperature required to ignite it decreases.

So to make diesel burn, you can either heat it up, compress the hell out of it, or both. But yeah, it will burn without compression, compression just decreases the ignition point. You can dip a stick in it and light it with a lighter. Unlike lighting gas you have to hold it there for a few seconds before it will catch up.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 06:50 PM

tabasco (18,297 posts)

9. All I can say is ...

GOOD THING HE DIDN'T HAVE A GUN!

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Response to tabasco (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:39 PM

FiveGoodMen (13,242 posts)

14. Yes it is.

All the victims would be dead now in that case.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 11:13 AM

Nanjing to Seoul (304 posts)

11. I have an ex-girlfriend from that area. She's from Fengning.

Extreme northern 河北, near Chengde and Inner Mongolia. Met her when I lived in 石家庄.

If I still bothered to speak to the psycho, I'd ask if she knew the guy, since Fengning is a very tightly wrapped community (and it's a Manchu minority area).

There has been one gun murder here since I have been in Nanjing. None in the three years I was in Hebei. Makes you wonder about gun control.

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Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:28 PM

OneMoreDemocrat (913 posts)

12. Is every single article posted to 'Breaking News' these days just being posted as a...

bolster to one side of the gun argument or the other?

It seems like that to me.

Reactions to this article could have been (and used to be)...'those poor kids, I hope they're alright', or 'I wonder why his daughter's killers got off', or 'that's fucked up, that this guy felt he had no recourse but to do harm'; you know, discussion.

Apparently EVERYTHING is now seen through the 'gun' lens.

Doesn't there come a point when you just realize that no amount of typing at each other is going to change anyone's mind at DU on the issue, and the only real way to change anything one way or the other is to get up off of one's ass, back away from the keyboard and go out in the real world and affect the change you seek by using the channels available to us like protesting and voting?

This is just tiresome anymore.

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Response to OneMoreDemocrat (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:58 PM

Angleae (2,072 posts)

13. Not just LBN

GD & Meta have been like that for a while now. Even the Lounge gets hit now and then.

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