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Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:51 PM

Lawmaker criticizes Russian women at Iran nuclear plant ignoring Islamic dress code

Source: Associated Press

An Iranian lawmaker is saying Russian women working in the country's sole nuclear power plant do not observe the strict Islamic dress code, though they are paid extra to comply.

Under Iranian law, all women must cover themselves from head to toe in public.

A Tuesday report by the semiofficial ISNA news agency quotes Mahdi Mousavinejad, a representative of the southern Iranian port of Bushehr, where the plant is located, as saying violation of dress code by the Russian workers has had a "corrupting and negative impact" on his constituency.

Mousavinejad says he will report on the case to the Iranian parliament. He did not say how many women were involved or how much they were paid.

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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Lawmaker+criticizes+Russian+women+Iran+nuclear+plant+ignoring+Islamic+dress+code/7742509/story.html

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Reply Lawmaker criticizes Russian women at Iran nuclear plant ignoring Islamic dress code (Original post)
bananas Dec 2012 OP
iemitsu Dec 2012 #1
pennylane100 Dec 2012 #9
iemitsu Dec 2012 #10
pennylane100 Jan 2013 #14
iemitsu Jan 2013 #15
Brigid Jan 2013 #16
iemitsu Jan 2013 #17
Joey Liberal Dec 2012 #2
alp227 Dec 2012 #3
RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #4
Turbineguy Dec 2012 #5
David__77 Dec 2012 #6
Why Syzygy Dec 2012 #7
DeSwiss Dec 2012 #8
happyslug Dec 2012 #11
Matariki Dec 2012 #12
riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #13
John.Mekki Jan 2013 #18
crim son Jan 2013 #19
AlecBGreen Jan 2013 #20
AlecBGreen Jan 2013 #21
riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #22

Response to bananas (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:56 PM

1. I hope the influence of the Russian scaflaw will encourage

other women to cast off their headgear.
Having a dress code for your nation is so middle-school.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:10 AM

9. This is much more than a dress code for the nation.

The code only applies to women and cannot be compared to waring a middle school uniform. Women have to be cover from head to toe and the punishment for not complying is way more harsh than a reprimand. It is a barbaric custom and a serious infringement of a woman's rights.

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Response to pennylane100 (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 12:38 AM

10. Thank you. I did not mean to belittle the impact that the dress requirements,

and other restrictions on women, have on women in Iran and other conservative Islamic societies and I recognize the severity with which they enforce these laws. I agree with you that the custom is barbaric.
I was not trying to make light of the situation but rather trying to point out the absurdity of such laws, especially in the context of a modern nuclear facility.
I think all sumptuary laws are evil. They are designed to aid in societal discrimination and to enable the easy identification and control of people.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 10:46 PM

14. I just got around to checking my posts.

Thank you for your reply. I think I was having a bad day and possibly overreacted. It seems we are in total agreement and I appreciate your comments.

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Response to pennylane100 (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:49 AM

15. Thanks. I'm sure we do agree on this matter.

On a good day I can communicate my thoughts clearly so it must have been a bad one for me too.
As a public school teacher, I have had to fight the "school uniform as panacea for off-task teens" crowd too often (I'm a bit obsessed by the issue and, no doubt, too quickly made the comparison).
Where do people get the idea that clothes make the man? Or, as in the case of conservative Muslim men, the idea that a woman's clothing determines how she ought to be treated. Her look determines how he should act? A pretty stupid excuse for abusing and humiliating (or worse) women, who dare to have a public face or a public voice.
Perhaps it is valid to suggest that one's chosen attire can be indicative of the wearer's attitude or personality, in some way, but for this to apply, the look must be chosen by the wearer, not school administrators, parents, or the Taliban.
The increasing numbers of rapes and abuse that have surfaced recently, both in the United States and abroad (Pakistan, India). is reprehensible and shocking.
When I was a young man I was foolish enough to believe that misogyny and racism were two of the ugly aspects of American culture that were on the wane. Boy was I ever wrong.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 09:37 PM

16. I used to think that too.

But if anything, we are regressing.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:17 AM

17. Yep, seems so. :(

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:57 PM

2. This is what happens when church and state are not seperate.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:03 PM

3. Shorter Mousavinejad: "WAH WAH BOO HOO Russia actually considers women to be people? WAAAHH!"

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:17 PM

4. I'm sure our good friends in Saudi Arabia could teach them how it's done. nt

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:26 PM

5. Doing scientific work in a theocracy.

Strange bedfellows.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 08:14 PM

6. The Iranian government will not follow suit.

The Russian expertise is far more important than the silly rule. This guy is a nutter.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 09:12 PM

7. Doesn't make sense

When photos were coming out during their color revolution, both men and women were dressed the same as Westerners.

Anyone else remember that?

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 11:29 PM

8. Maybe the two goats and three barrels of crude they offered....

...just ain't enough.

- K&R







If the modern state of Israel had existed 2000 years ago, the
Holy Family would have found this at Bethlehemů

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 06:42 PM

11. For a Russian? Two goats and three barrels of crude is a lot of money

Crude prices, $108 a barrel, for $324. Goats are going for $450 for males, $225 for females:

Crude oil prices:
http://www.oil-price.net/

Goats for Sale:
http://www.fridaycreekfarm.com/forsale.html

Average (after taxes) income in Russia is only $9.945.
http://www.worldsalaries.org/russia.shtml

I hate to say it but Three barrels of oil, one male and two female goats come to $1224, which comes to $14,688 on an annual basis. Three Barrels of Crude and three goats, good wages if you are a Russian.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:13 PM

12. Because it's so easy to work when you are required to dress in a bag.

But no big deal, it's only a nuclear power plant.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 02:22 PM

13. I know! Being forced to wear religious medieval garb as a modern 21st century nuclear scientist

would completely juice me up for work each day as an intelligent working woman!












(do I need the icon? Yeah, probably).

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 12:47 AM

18. It is their country

 

They can behave like they want

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Response to John.Mekki (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:22 PM

19. Brave statement.

I wouldn't choose to live and work there but if I did, and accepted payment to wear a certain garb while on the job, I'd wear the garb. Period.

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Response to crim son (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:34 PM

20. thats the way I feel

the head-to-toe requirement is absurd, but if they agreed to that and take extra pay as part of that agreement they should abide by their promise.

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Response to John.Mekki (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 03:36 PM

21. i disagree

to the extent that those in their own country can "behave like they want." What if they decided child sacrifice was a great thing? Genocide? Should the rest of the world stand by and twiddle their thumbs?

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Response to John.Mekki (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 6, 2013, 05:30 PM

22. And we get to criticize Iran for its misogyny while applauding those who resist the misogyny.

I have no idea what the female Russian scientists jobs are within the Iranian facility but they may gotten there and realized the clothing was problematic for them to properly perform their task. Some of the traditional Iranian chadors have many many yards of fabric and would be very difficult to move around in, especially if you aren't used to wearing it. Were they knocking test tubes over with their tents or was the garb making it difficult to maneuver away from toxic chemicals?

We don't have enough information. Its possible the Russians agreed to wear it then got there and it wasn't safe. They may have never agreed to wear it and the Iranians are lying. The truth may be somewhere in between.



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