Breaking Reports: Multiple people shot at a bar in Bellevue, Washington - @KING5Seattle

Where a conceal carry can drink alcohol in a bar.
Here is Washington state law.
CCW is not allowed in any bar in Washington state.

RCW 9.41.300
Weapons prohibited in certain places — Local laws and ordinances — Exceptions — Penalty.

(1) It is unlawful for any person to enter the following places when he or she knowingly possesses or knowingly has under his or her control a weapon:

(d) That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age; or

(12) Any person violating subsection (1) of this section is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

RCW 9A.20.021
Maximum sentences for crimes committed July 1, 1984, and after.

(2) Gross misdemeanor. Every person convicted of a gross misdemeanor defined in Title 9A RCW shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a maximum term fixed by the court of up to three hundred sixty-four days, or by a fine in an amount fixed by the court of not more than five thousand dollars, or by both such imprisonment and fine.
(d) That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age; or
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300

Why would they pack heat and go to a bar and NOT drink.

GOP/NRA/ALEC bullshit logic doesn't fly anymore.

nope

Oh yeah - make it a felony to drink and pack and the douchebags will obey.

yup

The mentality of the average gun-toter is that there's no place where you're more likely to need your gun than in the saloon. Since they know that all their gun nut buddies think just like them, they know everyone else in there is likely to be armed too, so they'd be defenseless in an armed crowd without it.

No one ever goes out with the intention of getting drunk and getting into any trouble. So a guy that's packing gets hammered and proceeds to be an asshole. He deserves to have his ass kicked but guess what? He has his equalizer! Yup. What could go wrong?

drinking and cc, but common sense would dictate that you do not drink while carrying/handling a firearm. Personally, I would avoid bars altogether just because they are magnets for stupid and reckless behavior.

It didn't stop the guy in NY from pulling out his gun at a bar after drinking and shooting up the place last year.

and law-abiding that the only people who ever use guns irresponsibly are criminals.

Do I need the sarcasm thingy?

In addition to carding, should bartenders be expected to frisk someone before they serve them?

And yes, there's a nice little penalty for CCW in a WA bar but, if you have worked in a bar as I have, you know people do MANY stupid things and violate MANY little laws in bars. I guarantee you that "gross misdemeanor" has been committed in Washington state more than once and today it lead to tragedy.

Restriction on concealed carry in an establishment that serves alcohol is up to the owner of the establishment. If they post a clear notice, then it is disallowed. If they do not post the sign, it is allowed for permit holders (keeping in mind that AZ does not require permits for conceal carry).

You may also conceal carry a weapon into a restaurant that serves alcohol in Nevada.

I suspect you may also concealed carry into alcohol serving establishments in other states, but don't feel like going through the law of each one. Feel free to do so yourself:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/

Please cite the actual wording in the statute. The summary listing that I gave the link for mentions that it is generally considered a bad idea to consume alcohol while carrying a weapon - but there is nothing to indicate that it is illegal. The listed statute (for your convenience in finding the exact wording of this restriction) is here:

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/4/00244.htm

http://www.azdps.gov/Links/ARS/?l=4/00244.htm , para. 31.

Zone, right?

Can happen anywhere...

Same thing for hunters and gun ranges. No drinking allowed.

to drink and carry. It should be permanent loss of permit and loss of firearms.

What could possibly go wrong?

in the hell are sane, rational people going to stop this slaughter? Guns have been inculcated into our culture starting with the expansion of the territory from the east coast. Anyone ever tried to do a study on how many native americans were slaughtered in that expansion to the west coast? I doubt it. Revolutionary War, keeping slaves cowed, Civil War, wild, wild west mentality, prohibition and all the Al Capone types glorified, although they usually ended up dead, guns and violence. Put on the big screen, played by the Cagney's and Bogart's ect. But all had guns at their historical core. Fucking guns everywhere. Now we have 300million guns, that's the ones we know about, circulating in our society. American society has always been a violence driven culture. Movies on the big screen. Violent. Movies on our home entertainment centers. Violent. Games on computers and ipods. Violent. Those violent games and movies always have a gun or guns being used for nefarious purposes. This is a culture where guns have been glorified as a necessary part of our history. Not arguing the fact of being necessary. But now that necessity has been negated by our 'civilized' society with peace officers, a standing military force, ground, air and water and yet monsters are walking into Mcdonalds, shopping malls, movie theaters and ELEMENTARY schools, by god, and shooting up the place and the occupants. How do we stop the modern slaughter? Can we? Will we? I fear it is out of control and no way to stop it, realistically. Just my small opinion.

A 30-year-old Seattle man was killed and another man wounded in a shooting at a crowded bar in Bellevue, Wash., early Monday, police said.

The shooting broke out just after 1 a.m. at Munchbar at Bellevue Square, an upscale shopping center about 10 miles east of Seattle, said Carla Iafrate, a spokeswoman for the Bellevue Police Department.

Police officers were outside the bar when gunfire erupted because a large crowd had gathered there, she said.

More than 600 people were inside the venue at the time of the shooting. "It was a very complicated scene," Iafrate said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/killed-wounded-bar-shooting-seattle-18055143#.UNhy6azNnb0

No one's going to take on a barful of drunking sports fans @ 1 a.m. if they all have semis, right?

eom

It takes only 13 states to defeat a repeal of an amendment.
How about we start with what can be realistically done? Like a ban on high capacity magazines? Close the private sales loophole?
Registration of all firearms? Strengthen the NICS system? There are more things that can be done to lessen the violence without trying to do something that has no chance of happening any time soon.
You will not get a repeal of the second amendment when it takes only 13 states saying no.

Second amendment extremists can go to hell.

and the rest of us alone.

killings are done with a knife. Or a bow and arrow, or a blunt object or poisoning or a vehicle. Hmmm.

look up rampage killings on wiki

They list 32 around the world and several in the US

compared to firearms killings.

So, what's your point?

in the US there have been around 330 deaths in rampage shootings, hard to keep up recently so I may be wrong, so anyone should feel free to correct that.

IIRC about 35 people have died in mass killings by autos...about 10% of the number by shooting. I'm not sure 10% or even 5% if my number is that wrong is "a drop in the bucket"

But if you want to be argumentative about it, there are about 65 million people with mental illness in the US right now, about 25 million are diagnosed. If we assume all 26 known US mass murderers over 90 years were mentally ill, do those 26 in 25 million form "a drop" or several "drops"??

All aside, the first and most important self defense move is avoiding the kinds of places where trouble hangs out.

Wayne LaPierre wouldn't get paid. Of course they could always change their name to the NBKA. Perhaps they ought to include knives.

'Tuba Man' killer sought as suspect in fatal Bellevue bar shooting
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019981363_shooting25m.html

he'll be in REAL trouble.

Too bad the little fucker didn't get grown-up jail time for killing somebody.