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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 07:47 PM

 

Ex-Sandy Hook Teacher: Lanza Was Sweet Little Boy

Source: ABC News

A former teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School says she remembers the gunman who killed 26 people at the school as a smart, sweet boy in her second-grade class.

Carole MacInnes (MAC'-IN'-ness) says Adam Lanza did not require extra academic attention and he acted normal socially. She says she met his mother during parent-teacher conferences twice, but never his father.

The retired teacher said Sunday that Lanza was a gentle soul and she can't imagine what caused him to want to kill. She never saw him after the second grade.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/sandy-hook-teacher-lanza-sweet-boy-18051028

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Reply Ex-Sandy Hook Teacher: Lanza Was Sweet Little Boy (Original post)
michigandem58 Dec 2012 OP
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #1
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #3
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #13
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #28
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #33
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #36
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #42
CreekDog Dec 2012 #26
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #29
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #30
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #43
naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #44
cliffordu Dec 2012 #39
easttexaslefty Dec 2012 #4
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #11
easttexaslefty Dec 2012 #15
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #18
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #12
Lenomsky Dec 2012 #6
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #10
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #9
easttexaslefty Dec 2012 #16
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #17
easttexaslefty Dec 2012 #20
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #23
NoodleyAppendage Dec 2012 #14
bitchkitty Dec 2012 #25
Purveyor Dec 2012 #35
David__77 Dec 2012 #2
littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #5
defacto7 Dec 2012 #21
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #31
TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #7
Ash_F Dec 2012 #8
BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #19
Historic NY Dec 2012 #22
dflprincess Dec 2012 #24
LisaL Dec 2012 #27
MADem Dec 2012 #40
barbaraj Dec 2012 #32
YayArea Dec 2012 #34
JI7 Dec 2012 #37
xocet Dec 2012 #38
John2 Dec 2012 #41

Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:01 PM

1. His paranoid over protective, "needy" mother caused him to freak out.

 

"The retired teacher said Sunday that Lanza was a gentle soul and she can't imagine what caused him to want to kill."

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:06 PM

3. That is wild speculation

 

Mental illness is mental illness.

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:28 PM

13. That is your speculation, mine is no less valid and I provide a reason for the illness, you do not.

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:53 PM

28. LOL

 

I didn't speculate at all. You did. You pulled something out of your ass. I didn't speculate at all.

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:10 AM

33. I'm sure that you are an expert on mental illness, it takes one to know one, right?

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #33)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:25 AM

36. ????

 

I have no idea what you are talking about:

You pulled something totally out of your ass, and are defending it with "well, my opinion is as good as yours".

My daughter does that.

She's 12.

I am not an expert on mental illness, and I don't need to be in order to know that you aren't either and that you are engaging in wild speculation.

Tell me, are you 12?




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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:27 AM

42. Not withstanding your crudeness I have an opinion, I don't use dirty language to describe

 

your opinions. Vulgarity does not support your opinion.

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:50 PM

26. actually mental illness isn't mental illness in the way you say

depression is exceedingly common, is mental illness, is almost never associated with mass shootings.

schizophrenia is a mental illness, doesn't make a person violent. it can but the illness does not = violent outbursts.

mental illness is so common, yet what you're referring to is a very extreme manifestation...and furthermore, many sane people commit mass murders. many sane people murder loved ones in crimes of passion in anger.

the idea that mental illness is the operative phrase is wrong. it's not.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:53 PM

29. Yep! +1, n/t

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:54 PM

30. Yes, good point

 

I was lazy about my reply to him, which was to call out his baseless, wild speculation.

We don't know enough yet of course, but we certainly don't know enough to pinpoint it on his mother coddling him.

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #30)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:28 AM

43. What is your backgroung to diagnose mental illness? I think you're speculating just as much.

 

And what I said about his mother was a possible explanation for his mental illness. What's your problem Mr. Judgmental?

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #43)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 08:30 AM

44. I'm not speculating or diagnosing at all

 

I am going off of the news reports that he was suffering from a mental illness. What he did suggests he has one, but again, I am not diagnosing or speculating.

Again,

You are pulling wild ass speculations out of your ass, and all of your 12-year old level of arguing isn't going to change that fact.




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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:09 AM

39. Gosh, I wish the rest of the fucking world had your acumen.

Your veracity is beyond reproach.

You are a god among prognosticators,

The Hefe among bloviators.

Baby, you're the best.

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:14 PM

4. Did you know the family?.

It's sounds like you surely must.

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Response to easttexaslefty (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:27 PM

11. Did you know the family or the boy? My opinion is just as good as yours.

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:37 PM

15. That's the thing. I don't have an opinion

of her mothering skills since all we have to go by is the media. You?

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Response to easttexaslefty (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:07 PM

18. My opinion.

 

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Response to easttexaslefty (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:27 PM

12. You knew the boy?

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:22 PM

6. Link please

The boy was nutz goes without saying the reason is unknown AFAIA.

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Response to Lenomsky (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:26 PM

10. Where is your link?

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:25 PM

9. Opinion is what you get here, that's my opinion.

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:56 PM

16. Well, opinions ARE like

Assholes. Everyone's got one.

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Response to easttexaslefty (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:06 PM

17. You too stinky.

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:16 PM

20. Clever. But not so much.

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Response to easttexaslefty (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:30 PM

23. So, that's your opinion.

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:37 PM

14. An exaggeration, but I think there might a kernel of truth in there somewhere.

I think Lanza was damaged goods, but the environment upon which he matured is a factor. Mommy taking to the gun range to unload with an assault rifle was NOT helpful, regardless of his mental disease type.

J

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:49 PM

25. Wow. You pulled that one straight out of your ass. n/t

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:25 AM

35. Still curious at what age his was put on 'mood altering meds' because he didn't 'conform'...eom

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:02 PM

2. People sometimes choose evil... almost always somewhat after 2nd grade.

Maybe it's not reducible to some or another social ill - I think it goes deeper. Perhaps humanity will evolve past such things. I hope so.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:17 PM

5. Neurological changes related to growth of the person

from age of second grade to age 20 are huge. Environment, exposure to toxins, brain disease and other influences notwithstanding lots is happening with neuronal growth. Peace. LMSP

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:18 PM

21. true...

and there are many genetically related mental conditions that usually do not show themselves until the person enters their teens.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:56 PM

31. Well said! Thank you! n/t

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 08:37 PM

7. Any further distractions from the matter at hand?

 

If he'd been trying to run over puppies on his bike, and was already making a habit of petty little cruelties at age 7 then perhaps there might be some relevance. That he was a sweet little boy, not so much.

They were ALL "sweet little boys" until they turned into baby killing monsters.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:24 PM

8. People change as they grow. /nt

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:08 PM

19. I'm sure he was.

But he was a sick man--nothing to do with how sweet he was as a child. He had an illness and an unfortuante easy access to deadly firearms.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:18 PM

22. Perhaps we should wait toxicological and autopsy results.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #22)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:46 PM

24. You are correct

I had Ed Schultz's radio show on last week when a doctor called in and said he really hoped the autopsy would include testing for Lyme's disease and damage to the from Lyme's. He was speculating that the shooter may have had "Lyme's rage".

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:53 PM

27. Yea, cause he was so likely to get that from sitting in his mother's basement.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:38 AM

40. Field mice often come in to get warm in basements and other parts of houses.

And field mice can carry lyme.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/vet00/vet00041.htm

It's not hard to pick up a deer tick bite at an outdoor shooting range located in the woods near one's home, either, I should think...

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:09 AM

32. interesting possibility

It would be nice if they did a full viral assay to determine if his brain was being affected by infection of "something"..while checking for frontal lobe damage and possibly tumor (as was the case in the Texas sniper) Perhaps an opportunity to find out what causes some mental illness.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:18 AM

34. I'm sure he was.

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:33 AM

37. so that's age 7-8 ? there are many kids who were brats around that age

but when they were 20(and usually before that) they changed for the better.

and of course you can get the opposite also.


and based on what we have heard about him as an adult maybe he didn't change. just that when you are young and quiet it's seen as shy, cute etc. but as you get older it can be seen as odd (if that haircut story is true).

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 01:40 AM

38. Paging Dr. Frist...Paging Dr. Frist...Please Report to the Thread...STAT....

No...wait...Dr. Frist is already present in reply #1 to this thread....

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Response to michigandem58 (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 07:44 AM

41. Where was

 

his father? It makes you wonder if his father ever took part in raising his boys. Everything we have heard about was the mother being the mom and father of two Boys but never the father involved with raising his own sons. The only thing you hear is this guy making money and years later dumping his wife for another woman.

Adam Lanza seems to have had no relationship with his father at all. The media hasn't provided any questions at all from his father. If this kid had any medical problems at all growing up, then wouldn't he know?

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