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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:00 AM

NRA shill Wayne LaPierre on Meet the Press today. The lowest of the low has been reached.

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Source: NBC MEET THE PRESS TV PROMOS &GUIDE LISTINGS

After his supposed "Press Conference" was not open for questions he spewed more blame for gun violence on everything but the guns themselves. There was a time that MTP was somewhat acceptable but no more. Giving this highly paid & dishonest glorified lobbyist ANY AIR TIME while kids are still being buried goes beyond despicable! Shame on them. Just wanted to see if we as a group let them.know that the insensitivity, combined with what will be a hard holiday as is for those in Newtown, as well as all over the country. It is a disgrace that David Gregory or whomever allowed this lobbying shill for the gun manufacturers to be a featured guest on your air. David Gregory should be replaced as managing editor. NBC & MTP apparently truly have no class & no shame. I don't always agree with the format on MTP, but this is the last straw. I don't know how they sleep at night. This is distressing. PLEASE, if you agree with this let them know.

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Reply NRA shill Wayne LaPierre on Meet the Press today. The lowest of the low has been reached. (Original post)
Astazia Dec 2012 OP
exboyfil Dec 2012 #1
Squinch Dec 2012 #6
exboyfil Dec 2012 #7
Squinch Dec 2012 #12
icarusxat Dec 2012 #26
defacto7 Dec 2012 #32
Squinch Dec 2012 #33
elehhhhna Dec 2012 #13
exboyfil Dec 2012 #15
valerief Dec 2012 #17
valerief Dec 2012 #16
ragemage Dec 2012 #2
Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #5
Frosty1 Dec 2012 #3
Rain Mcloud Dec 2012 #4
tabasco Dec 2012 #10
fascisthunter Dec 2012 #28
AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #8
AndyA Dec 2012 #9
Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2012 #22
Dash87 Dec 2012 #11
DFW Dec 2012 #14
sandyshoes17 Dec 2012 #31
Sunlei Dec 2012 #18
NJCher Dec 2012 #19
BVictor1 Dec 2012 #20
cese Dec 2012 #21
plethoro Dec 2012 #23
samsingh Dec 2012 #24
Mtndreamer Dec 2012 #25
just1voice Dec 2012 #27
mimi85 Dec 2012 #29
sandyshoes17 Dec 2012 #30
defacto7 Dec 2012 #34
NickB79 Dec 2012 #35
Coyotl Dec 2012 #36
Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #37
AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #38
Rhiannon12866 Dec 2012 #39

Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:03 AM

1. Let Rachel Maddow at him

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:21 AM

6. I sort of agree with you, but I'm more leaning toward: take away their voice. Make him a pariah.

Storm any news outlet giving him a voice. Overwhelm them with calls and emails telling the news outlet that we consider them to be sponsoring domestic terrorism.

I notice even here on DU, the gun nuts are really in it for attention and to stir the pot. If they are ignored, it makes them bonkers and takes away all their power.

There are people here who know about guns and are willing to use their knowledge to discuss how to put teeth into gun control legislation. They get right to it. They say things like, "that rule is not going to work, it's based on faulty conventional wisdom, X would work better." It goes right to facts and policy points.

The gun nuts get right into the talking points: we need more guns, everything else is the problem, nothing will work, people need to understand their own insignificance when faced with changing the gun culture. It's pure bullshit right off the bat.

We need to completely turn our backs on that latter group, and this guy is the mouthpiece for them. We need to collectively make it known that we see him in the same light as we see Ted Kazinski or Timothy McVeigh. At the same time as we work to make real, muscular and effective gun control, we need a grass roots movement to reject LaPierre and anyone who stands with him.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:26 AM

7. I agree that the press should have walked out

when the "press conference" turned into a speech without questions, but I disagree strongly with not having a discussion of ideas. My problem is that I do not trust reporters to ask the right questions and do the research necessary to conduct a meaningful review. I would put some of the Youtube videos up with the large capacity magazines and bump slide technology and ask the NRA what happens when someone walks into a school with such an arsenal.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:41 AM

12. Yes, I think we need a discussion of what the gun control policies will look like, but the moment

we say we will tolerate a discussion of "ideas" we get the talking points. I will not engage in that nonsense any more. It throws up a roadblock to any actual constructive discussion, which is what the NRA and their ilk is after. They put up enough roadblocks, and the public loses attention and the storm blows over.

LaPierre is not going to create a discussion. He will prevent one. If MTP were putting up a responsible voice for how to enact gun laws that are reasonable, that allow for people to own one gun, or very few guns, for hunting or self protection, and how to do it without destroying MY right to go about my day without fear of getting shot, I would tune in enthusiastically and take notes. But we never get those voices. We get LaPierre who wants us all to have a gun in our handbags without any regulation at all.

We need to demand better from news outlets like MTP.

(And by the way, I'll bet that within a week or so, Rachel gets some person who fits my description on her show. And as I say, I'll tune in and take notes, and work to see the measures enacted.)

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Response to Squinch (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:37 AM

26. well said

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Response to Squinch (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:31 PM

32. hear, hear!

and thanks... good spiel.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #32)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:35 PM

33. Thanks. I began by writing a real screed to NBC over having him on this morning.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:42 AM

13. harold ford will be on - to triangulate and ultimately

probably agree with wayne

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:45 AM

15. Good Lord

Serious journalism is dead. It will be on soon, and I will watch and hope that some real journalist crawls out of the swamp.

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:06 AM

17. He's a true blue dog, for sure. nt

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:05 AM

16. Even better, I'd like to see Thom Hartmann have a go at him. nt

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:14 AM

2. I never watch the Sunday morning shows

If I did I would end up breaking my TV by the large blunt objects I would throw at it.

I agree with you totally. He should not be allowed anywhere near the TV-tubes...UNLESS...someone has the guts to grill him like they should. Give him to Rachel or Soledad and see what happens.

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Response to ragemage (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:17 AM

5. You just came up with the best possible justification

for watching the Sunday Morning Zoo:

"If I did I would end up breaking my TV by the large blunt objects I would throw at it."

If you do in your TV, you'll be the better for it.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:14 AM

3. What link?

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:15 AM

4. So the NRA will get a free pass on MTP?

 

Tuck Choad will probably be the opposing opinion or better yet,Judas Maximus(Stephanopolis).

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Response to Rain Mcloud (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:32 AM

10. Exactly.

Tuck Choad - LOL!

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Response to Rain Mcloud (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:51 AM

28. lol... I can't stand Stephanopolis... what a fraud

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:27 AM

8. I think it all depends on how Gregory handles this.

And if I read him right last weekend, it may not be kindly. By the way, MTP wanted a pro-gun person on last week's show -- just two days after the tragedy -- but everyone declined.

I say let LaPierre go on MTP. When people see him for the sick, stubborn piece of work that he is, maybe it might convince some to rethink their opinions on gun availability in this country. Like it or not, LaPierre is a major player in this debate and what he has to say is noteworthy.

Again -- the tenor of this show is entirely up to Gregory.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:30 AM

9. What do you suppose the chances are of David Gregory asking

Wayne LaPierre about the sweep of the press room? That surely seems to go against everything the NRA stands for, not allowing guns into the room.

A serious, honest journalist doing their job would ask that question. Gregory, yeah right.

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Response to AndyA (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:09 AM

22. The "sweep of the press room" deserves more attention. No guns?! Speaks volumes. Tell us more.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:35 AM

11. My theory (kind of) is,

Wayne LaPierre is actually a mole whose personal agenda is to get guns banned. His mission is to say the dumbest, most ridiculous and heartless stuff. That way, he can piss even the most dedicated gun owners off and have them rethink their position.

Or maybe he's some kind of bizarre comedy routine. "Guards in every school?" More guns you say? Good one LaPierre! Hahaha...

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:44 AM

14. Not that Gregory had any credibility left with me

I don't get US TV, so all I see is clips sent to me, but Gregory gives me the impression of being a complete Republican shill. Maybe this is a false impression, but it's what I've gotten from seeing him so far.

So, either Gregory demolishes LaPierre, or he kisses his ass (or tosses him softball questions, which is the same thing). There is no in-between. If Gregory give LaPierre a free ride, it will only confirm that he is not worth watching--not now, not ever. If he decides that he is playing witha hostile monster in his studio and acts accordingly, that's a different story.

By the way, if Gregory has any children and lets LaPierre romp, he's not a father I'd want to have.

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Response to DFW (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:17 PM

31. I'm starting to believe

That Gregory is told who goes on the show. The right is allowed week after week to sell their bs, while the only time someone from the left is put on is to defend themselves.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:39 AM

18. what do you expect when the nra emboldened gun nuts like Nugent to get promises from Romney

Disband that useless lobbyist CULT group and stop them threatening and bribing politicans.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:42 AM

19. watching now--boy, does WLP hate Diane Feinstein

He's mentioned her numerous times and he has only been on 8".

David Gregory is getting frustrated with him.



Cher

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:55 AM

20. LaPierre on MTP was utterly disgusting.

 

Did anyone hear Wayne state that the NRA has supported prison building?

I find that extremely interesting and disturbing.

There's been a significant increase in prison building by private companies.

This is all about money.

I now believe that the NRA and the private prison industry are in business together.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:08 AM

21. cese

I agree 100%...why would they (NBC) give that Idiot a Sunday prime spot for Americas issues and let him rant on in the same o crap he's been feeding the weak minded for years....he's in it for the money, he is one of the many "anti-American"s out there that are Bad for America....

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:13 AM

23. I don't watch tv. I get all my information

 

from this place and other selected news sources not on tv. TV has too much subliminal messaging steering one's thoughts.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:21 AM

24. kick

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:26 AM

25. THE NRA sole purpose is to enrich the profiteers who make toys that destroy innocent..

With that being said, I get all the news I need from the weather report..

Think their money would be better spent on penile implants for their limp dycked members..

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:45 AM

27. The presswhores sleep at night on piles of corrupt cash

 

Then wake up the next day and ask people how much they like torture.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:00 PM

29. I disagree

about not giving him press time - let him spout his insanity. The more people hear him, the more people will recognize him as the asshole he is. And yes, let Rachel get him - or Lawrence might be even better. Plus, I don't want this whole thing to just go away as is usually the case. Let him keep digging that hole.

I read a bit in LA Times this morning that made a good point. Most murders are committed with handguns, not assault weapons. If there is an assault weapon ban, that would be great and might eliminate some mass shootings, but what to do about handguns?

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 12:07 PM

30. Totally agree!!

Why was this guy allowed to sell his shit to the nation. Disgrace

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:53 PM

34. Thanks for the rant.

It is amazing to me how the media feeds on the crap rw crazies put out. I think Americans enjoy the entertainment which is half the problem. But the media is also controlled by what they "think" Americans want to hear and feeds the entertainment. The money machine in the media is not always synchronized with what really works but is more attuned to what statistics tell them. Then unthinking Americans hear it and tend to fall for the approach... it's a circle. One feeds off the other. The problem is breaking that circle.

If the media stopped gearing to the stats, used some creative intuition, and reported news free of entertainment, we could get better information and less bull shit. But entertainment news is the result of media deregulation, and the shock value of jerks like Wayne is what we get. Unfortunately, only some of us will see him for the empty idiot he is, others will eat it up.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:15 PM

35. Is this LBN material?

You forgot your link, that might help. Otherwise, you could repost this in General Discussion.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:39 PM

36. Hey Crazy Wayne, here's a hashtag for you too = #CrazyWayne = trending soon

#CrazyWayne pass it on #CrazyWayne

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:06 PM

37. Any member of the press

should refuse to be in the same room with him unless they are allowed to carry fully automatic weapons into the room. You know, just so everybody will be safe.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:11 PM

38. I'm watching a podcast of MTP now.

And I am glad that Wayne LaPierre was on today. This show is exposing his myopia, his fanaticism, and complete denial of reality as it concerns guns and society. Not to mention his totally offensive portrayal of mentall ill people.

MTP exposed LaPierre for the sick, single-minded individual that he is. Period.

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Response to Astazia (Original post)

Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:24 PM

39. Locking, sorry, this does not meet LBN guidelines, no source and it's opinion.

This would be appropriate for General Discussion while the admins are still allowing gun threads. Please repost there. Thanks!

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