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 Toddler dies after accidentally shooting himself with grandfather's gun (Original post) |
SharonAnn | Dec 2012 | OP |
| JesterCS | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| Buzz Clik | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| taxpayer2000 | Dec 2012 | #34 | |
| BainsBane | Dec 2012 | #59 | |
| taxpayer2000 | Dec 2012 | #68 | |
| samsingh | Dec 2012 | #72 | |
| southerncrone | Dec 2012 | #93 | |
| Sky Masterson | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| bucolic_frolic | Dec 2012 | #23 | |
| harmonicon | Dec 2012 | #37 | |
| nilram | Dec 2012 | #51 | |
| RKP5637 | Dec 2012 | #52 | |
| samsingh | Dec 2012 | #73 | |
| SummerSnow | Dec 2012 | #104 | |
| AllyCat | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| benld74 | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| Scootaloo | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| Bjorn Against | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| bettyellen | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| valerief | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
| Happyhippychick | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
| The Magistrate | Dec 2012 | #11 | |
| Garion_55 | Dec 2012 | #15 | |
| Ed Suspicious | Dec 2012 | #22 | |
| Garion_55 | Dec 2012 | #36 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Dec 2012 | #40 | |
| tavalon | Dec 2012 | #42 | |
| BainsBane | Dec 2012 | #62 | |
| Dash87 | Dec 2012 | #56 | |
| LibDemAlways | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
| mbperrin | Dec 2012 | #14 | |
| Jackpine Radical | Dec 2012 | #13 | |
| Botany | Dec 2012 | #31 | |
| Android3.14 | Dec 2012 | #16 | |
| Arkansas Granny | Dec 2012 | #17 | |
| JimDandy | Dec 2012 | #18 | |
| Throckmorton | Dec 2012 | #19 | |
| patrice | Dec 2012 | #38 | |
| Fantastic Anarchist | Dec 2012 | #100 | |
| patrice | Dec 2012 | #101 | |
| progressoid | Dec 2012 | #20 | |
| ReRe | Dec 2012 | #29 | |
| 99th_Monkey | Dec 2012 | #43 | |
| ReRe | Dec 2012 | #45 | |
| progressoid | Dec 2012 | #91 | |
| ReRe | Dec 2012 | #95 | |
| kestrel91316 | Dec 2012 | #21 | |
| Ikonoklast | Dec 2012 | #46 | |
| ZombieHorde | Dec 2012 | #24 | |
| otohara | Dec 2012 | #25 | |
| Doctor_J | Dec 2012 | #26 | |
| Kalidurga | Dec 2012 | #27 | |
| patrice | Dec 2012 | #28 | |
| go west young man | Dec 2012 | #30 | |
| Sunlei | Dec 2012 | #65 | |
| tblue | Dec 2012 | #32 | |
| ReRe | Dec 2012 | #33 | |
| Evasporque | Dec 2012 | #35 | |
| logosoco | Dec 2012 | #39 | |
| tavalon | Dec 2012 | #41 | |
| Shadowflash | Dec 2012 | #44 | |
| appleannie1 | Dec 2012 | #47 | |
| Melinda | Dec 2012 | #48 | |
| the devil | Dec 2012 | #49 | |
| zebrastripe | Dec 2012 | #50 | |
| SoapBox | Dec 2012 | #53 | |
| ManiacJoe | Dec 2012 | #54 | |
| Tikki | Dec 2012 | #74 | |
| jillan | Dec 2012 | #55 | |
| BainsBane | Dec 2012 | #57 | |
| Fumesucker | Dec 2012 | #58 | |
| ManiacJoe | Dec 2012 | #75 | |
| GeorgeGist | Dec 2012 | #85 | |
| Fumesucker | Dec 2012 | #96 | |
| Sunlei | Dec 2012 | #60 | |
| SheilaT | Dec 2012 | #61 | |
| SunSeeker | Dec 2012 | #69 | |
| Toronto | Dec 2012 | #79 | |
| SheilaT | Dec 2012 | #88 | |
| Toronto | Dec 2012 | #105 | |
| heaven05 | Dec 2012 | #63 | |
| Bad_Ronald | Dec 2012 | #64 | |
| savalez | Dec 2012 | #66 | |
| crim son | Dec 2012 | #67 | |
| exboyfil | Dec 2012 | #77 | |
| savalez | Dec 2012 | #103 | |
| truthisfreedom | Dec 2012 | #70 | |
| uppityperson | Dec 2012 | #71 | |
| Dems to Win | Dec 2012 | #76 | |
| Squaredeal | Dec 2012 | #78 | |
| Dems to Win | Dec 2012 | #80 | |
| Toronto | Dec 2012 | #81 | |
| AngryOldDem | Dec 2012 | #82 | |
| Chemisse | Dec 2012 | #83 | |
| cosmicone | Dec 2012 | #84 | |
| mimi85 | Dec 2012 | #87 | |
| Still Blue in PDX | Dec 2012 | #98 | |
| OldRedneck | Dec 2012 | #86 | |
| fascisthunter | Dec 2012 | #89 | |
| ileus | Dec 2012 | #90 | |
| CTyankee | Dec 2012 | #92 | |
| Nye Bevan | Dec 2012 | #94 | |
| Crunchy Frog | Dec 2012 | #97 | |
| primavera | Dec 2012 | #99 | |
| Deep13 | Dec 2012 | #102 |
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:09 PM
JesterCS (928 posts)
1. Grandfather should get
Response to JesterCS (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:12 PM
Buzz Clik (29,737 posts)
6. Agreed, and he very likely will.
Response to taxpayer2000 (Reply #34)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:39 PM
BainsBane (11,018 posts)
59. seriously?
Response to JesterCS (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:04 PM
samsingh (10,393 posts)
72. maybe the grandfather suffers from alzeimer's?
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:09 PM
2. Guns don't kill people
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Maybe the toddler was just suicidal.
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Response to Sky Masterson (Reply #2)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:04 PM
51. Clearly, there should be a policeman in every grandfather's house.
Response to nilram (Reply #51)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:16 PM
RKP5637 (25,784 posts)
52. Yep, why wasn't that cop there, was he loafing around, an armed cop
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should have been there. And while we're at it, how about road rage, we need a fully armed cop at every stop sign and street light to keep road rage in line. And what about the loafing nation guard. We need 7x24 convoys running along the major highways with fully armed tanks. Now, with all of these logical solutions what's the problem. Oh, I forgot, free guns and ammo for all citizens, illegals too. Get those toddlers armed too! And what about attack dogs with guns, see no problem with that either.
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Response to nilram (Reply #51)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:05 PM
samsingh (10,393 posts)
73. the NRA should pay for all the increased policing
Response to nilram (Reply #51)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:49 PM
104. They better check that toddlers hardrive
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:10 PM
AllyCat (7,557 posts)
3. So sad. We have to find a way to stop this.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:11 PM
Scootaloo (6,085 posts)
5. Clearly it was because the toddler played Call of Duty while on antidepressants!
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:12 PM
7. The Grandfather better be charged
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:12 PM
8. i bet grandpa thought he was responsible.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:13 PM
valerief (35,729 posts)
9. If only the grandfather had *another* gun in the house...
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:14 PM
Happyhippychick (5,719 posts)
10. Obviously a mentally ill toddler
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:14 PM
The Magistrate (80,938 posts)
11. The Price We Pay for Freedom, Ma'am....
Response to Garion_55 (Reply #15)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:53 PM
Ed Suspicious (1,252 posts)
22. Is that real? n/t
Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #22)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:34 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
40. I had same question. Revealing that we have to ask that anymore.
Response to Garion_55 (Reply #15)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:36 PM
tavalon (25,960 posts)
42. that's too close to the actual "press conference"
Response to Garion_55 (Reply #15)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:42 PM
BainsBane (11,018 posts)
62. Didn't you hear?
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Obama had the children murdered to provide an excuse to take away everyone's guns.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #11)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:36 PM
56. Praise the lord and pass the ammo. Yeehaw!
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:17 PM
LibDemAlways (12,955 posts)
12. I hope grandpa is charged with involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide. Leaving a
Response to LibDemAlways (Reply #12)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:26 PM
14. Yes, he should get actual time in prison, not probation.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jackpine Radical (36,687 posts)
13. This wouldn't have happened if there had been an armed Good Guy…
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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #13)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:14 PM
Botany (36,161 posts)
31. you forgot that the "armed good guy" has to be NRA trained
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:28 PM
16. If that toddler had read the 10 commandments this wouldn't have happened
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It's obvious that there is a direct link between the violence in the media, the lack of prayer in schools, and this child's death.
Thank you NRA for opening my eyes.  |
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:35 PM
Arkansas Granny (14,811 posts)
17. Just feel physically ill when I hear stories like this.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:37 PM
18. The toddler must have been a master gun safe cracker.
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His grandfather must be overwhelmed with grief.  |
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:43 PM
Throckmorton (2,663 posts)
19. Im confused
Response to Throckmorton (Reply #19)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:33 PM
patrice (47,695 posts)
38. Sorry to say that's actually a relevant question, given certain chaotic trends that have produced a
Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #100)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:39 PM
patrice (47,695 posts)
101. Yes. there. are.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:46 PM
progressoid (27,384 posts)
20. I love my father but if he had left a firearm out where my child could get to it...
Response to progressoid (Reply #20)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:13 PM
ReRe (3,421 posts)
29. My father did...
Response to ReRe (Reply #29)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:37 PM
99th_Monkey (7,376 posts)
43. That is a powerful story and so timely.
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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #43)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:49 PM
ReRe (3,421 posts)
45. There's nothing more to say about it...
Response to ReRe (Reply #29)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:41 PM
progressoid (27,384 posts)
91. Jeez ReRe.
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So sorry you lost your father in this. But the safety and well-being of son is more important.
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Response to progressoid (Reply #91)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:11 AM
ReRe (3,421 posts)
95. Hey, my dad made his choices...
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... in life. It made a rough childhood for me and my sibling, but we made it through with little damage. Children really are resilient, and my sibling and I are living proof of the cliche-sounding phrase. The cycle was broken, and that's what is important. As bad as we had it, we both know people who had it much worse than us. So we count our blessings.
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:48 PM
kestrel91316 (45,676 posts)
21. And yet another irresponsible gun owner murders another child.
Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #21)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:52 PM
46. Yes. That trigger might as well have been pulled by the grandfather himself.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:54 PM
ZombieHorde (24,094 posts)
24. Sad. This will probably tear the family apart. nt
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:02 PM
Doctor_J (26,583 posts)
26. Without a gun he'd have found another way to kill himself
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:10 PM
patrice (47,695 posts)
28. H*O*W?? Does a grandfather do something like that? Is alcohol involved? I mean HOW is this possible?
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:13 PM
30. 2nd toddler killed the same way 3 days ago. So sad.
Response to go west young man (Reply #30)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:52 PM
Sunlei (2,568 posts)
65. In the USA guns kill 8 kids a DAY. :(
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:15 PM
tblue (14,138 posts)
32. Is Grandpa still glad he got that gun?
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:19 PM
ReRe (3,421 posts)
33. One word describes this incident...
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Irresponsibility. Period. Complicated by an inebriated absent mind.
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:26 PM
35. More guns can't possibly increase accidental shootings....
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:33 PM
logosoco (520 posts)
39. Since it is likely there will not be homicide charges in this case
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:34 PM
tavalon (25,960 posts)
41. Damn it all
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:47 PM
44. B-b-but, guns don't kill people.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:55 PM
47. If gramps had had another gun in the house he could have prevented this. Just ask the NRA
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:00 PM
Melinda (5,311 posts)
48. Innocent little baby...
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I wish you sleep in heavenly peace.
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:01 PM
49. I would love to see the NRA or the Right Wing try...
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:03 PM
50. Are the guns left on the coffee table?
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:24 PM
ManiacJoe (5,634 posts)
54. If you own guns, keep them properly stored.
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Response to ManiacJoe (Reply #54)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:21 PM
Tikki (9,682 posts)
74. My husband, nearly in tears, apologized to me for not putting a gun lock on...
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:32 PM
jillan (31,392 posts)
55. Waiting for LaPierre to come out and say we need armed guards at all homes of grandparents.
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There was a shooting last nite in Tucson at a shopping Mall. Luckily no one was injured .... this time. I have had enough. |
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:37 PM
BainsBane (11,018 posts)
57. Some on DU claim that accidental deaths don't count
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:39 PM
58. A .40 caliber is almost certainly a semi automatic
Response to Fumesucker (Reply #58)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:23 PM
ManiacJoe (5,634 posts)
75. Fixed it for you:
Response to Fumesucker (Reply #58)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:32 PM
GeorgeGist (9,766 posts)
85. Keep sucking
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:40 PM
Sunlei (2,568 posts)
60. tragic. However, this should be felony negligence.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:41 PM
SheilaT (12,581 posts)
61. And of course, this sort of thing
Response to SheilaT (Reply #61)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:57 PM
SunSeeker (5,334 posts)
69. Great suggestions. Hell, you need insurance to drive a car, why not insurance to have a gun? nt
Response to Toronto (Reply #79)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:01 PM
SheilaT (12,581 posts)
88. Don't see any good reason why we can't have a similar
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:46 PM
63. responsible
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Last edited Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:48 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) gun owner.
sad but inevitable with idiots owning guns. |
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:53 PM
66. Good thing it was
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a gun. Right? Had it been a grandpa's dog, or if grandpa was walking the kid across the street the the kid got hit by a bus there would probably be talk of serious charges.
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Response to savalez (Reply #66)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:41 PM
exboyfil (3,444 posts)
77. Actually if it had been grandpa's dog
Response to exboyfil (Reply #77)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:06 PM
103. No offense but you are kinda missing my point.
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Last edited Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:13 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) On edit, you are either missing it or making it. I'm not sure.
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:04 PM
uppityperson (74,816 posts)
71. Aw damn, that poor kid& family. All the replies here make me sick and I agree with them all also
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:34 PM
76. At least Grandpa has his freedumb and 2A rights. I'm sure that's a big comfort to the family
Response to Squaredeal (Reply #78)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 04:33 PM
80. Toddlers die to protect the Second Amendment in America. Routinely.
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 04:55 PM
Chemisse (18,431 posts)
83. This happens so often.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:36 PM
cosmicone (3,427 posts)
84. Only if the toddler had been trained in the use of firearms
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and had a membership in the NRA this could have been averted.
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Response to cosmicone (Reply #84)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:56 PM
mimi85 (454 posts)
87. A couple of stories
Response to mimi85 (Reply #87)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 10:39 AM
Still Blue in PDX (1,374 posts)
98. I'm so sorry you had to put up with that.
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:05 PM
fascisthunter (28,619 posts)
89. looks like the coockoo bird gun nutters are losing the argument
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 08:56 PM
ileus (9,311 posts)
90. Is a small pistol safe too much to ask?
Response to ileus (Reply #90)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:51 PM
CTyankee (35,231 posts)
92. funny you should ask.
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Oh well, at least his gramps was freedom loving enough to have a gun to protect himself and his family...this is just as the founders had planned it. What could possibly go wrong?
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:51 AM
Nye Bevan (11,272 posts)
94. Obviously the solution is an armed guard in every grandfather's home
Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 09:56 AM
97. The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #97)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:08 AM
99. Except that yesterday...
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Last edited Sun Dec 23, 2012, 11:08 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) ... grampa Rambo was a "normal, law-abiding, responsible gun owner" whose RKBA the NRA and gun advocates would have fought to the death to protect. Now that he's actually done something, of course, it's entirely different - he should never have been allowed to have a gun in the first place.
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Response to SharonAnn (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:41 PM
102. If that kid was armed, this would not have happened! ...
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Last edited Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:42 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Oh waitaminute...
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