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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:18 PM

Boehner Yanks Plan B , Cites Lack Of GOP Votes After Final Plea Fails

Source: Talking Points Memo

With his speakership in peril, John Boehner conceded Thursday night that he lacked Republican votes to pass his so-called Plan B and tried to put the onus on President Obama and Senate Democrats to avert the fiscal cliff.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/



This is on the front page of Talking Points Memo..Stunning Defeat for Boehner...



Rest of story is here:

In a stunning defeat, Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) called off a vote Thursday night on his Plan B to avert the fiscal cliff, citing a lack of support from his own party. Boehner issued the following statement as an emergency meeting of the House Republican Conference was ending:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boehner-calls-off-plan-b-vote?ref=fpa

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Reply Boehner Yanks Plan B , Cites Lack Of GOP Votes After Final Plea Fails (Original post)
Stuart G Dec 2012 OP
al_liberal Dec 2012 #1
Stuart G Dec 2012 #2
CountAllVotes Dec 2012 #3
lindysalsagal Dec 2012 #4
Zorro Dec 2012 #5
Mr.Turnip Dec 2012 #6
FVZA_Colonel Dec 2012 #17
yellowcanine Dec 2012 #7
Herlong Dec 2012 #8
ButterflyBlood Dec 2012 #9
Andy Stanton Dec 2012 #10
high density Dec 2012 #11
Skittles Dec 2012 #16
question everything Dec 2012 #12
davidpdx Dec 2012 #13
TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #14
TomCADem Dec 2012 #15
davidpdx Dec 2012 #18
wordpix Dec 2012 #27
davidpdx Dec 2012 #29
amandabeech Dec 2012 #19
Rowdyboy Dec 2012 #20
RickFromMN Dec 2012 #21
JoePhilly Dec 2012 #23
RickFromMN Dec 2012 #24
JoePhilly Dec 2012 #25
RickFromMN Dec 2012 #26
wordpix Dec 2012 #28
JoePhilly Dec 2012 #22

Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:23 PM

1. Great, really Great.

That means he's given cover to his peeps and now they're free to vote for the grand compromise.

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Response to al_liberal (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:29 PM

2. I guess he is gone in January...? I think so...nt

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:37 PM

3. No Orange Glo?

No mo'?



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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:11 PM

4. How did you know what I wanted for christmas?

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:26 PM

5. Republicans have no interest in governing

It's been obvious for decades, and it's also appalling that they get elected on the platform of not doing anything for the citizens of the USA.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:41 PM

6. God Boehner is such a weak speaker.

He can't seem to corral his caucus for anything.

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Response to Mr.Turnip (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:47 AM

17. He's not long for the role.

If he's still Speaker by the time the next Congress begins I will be shocked.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:46 PM

7. WTF? Buy more time to whip votes???? They have been whipping all week....

Boehner's only move now is to put forward something which can get all the Democratic votes + enough Republican votes to pass.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:56 PM

8. Oh my God Tea party!

 

Yeah, I went there. We need a real Republican party. Hopefully, after we have successfully removed the extremes, we can move forward with a real democracy.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:33 PM

9. EPIC FAIL MOTHERFUCKER

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:56 PM

10. Plan B for bullsh*t

It was all a big lie anyway. The Rethugs knew neither the Democratically-controlled Senate nor the White House would go along with it. It was simply there for the Rethugs to show their supporters that they were trying to do something constructive (though they weren't really). And now they can't even point to a Republican plan - because they couldn't agree to one.

Time to retire the Rethuglican Party to the dustbin of history (along with the Whigs and the Know Nothings).

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:07 AM

11. Repukes get 95% of what they want and that's still not enough

The House is a land of crazies.

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Response to high density (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:06 AM

16. that's what happens when you have a history of goose-stepping

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:13 AM

12. Is this what they meant when talking about the end of the world?

I suppose for some, it is..

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:15 AM

13. There are people on here who still won't see after this

That Obama is backing them into a corner. Obama knows Boehner is weak.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:37 AM

14. Of course-- it's all Obama's fault...

that we didn't get every single thing on our own far left's Christmas list.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:56 AM

15. The Problem Is That The GOP Is Like Lord of the Flies Now

They are trying to govern off of talking points written on the back of a napkin safe in the cocoon of Fox News. In this alternate universe, their willingness to sit on their ass, and demand that the President clean their shit up is awesome strategy and the people are totally behind them.

Think Romney being surprised that he got his ass kicked.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:51 AM

18. I'll have to watch Lord of the Flies

never seen it.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:20 PM

27. basically, the group becomes ungovernable & splits apart while mayhem ensues

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Response to wordpix (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:28 AM

29. When I was working over in China teaching Business

One of the other teacher who had an ethics class showed that during his class. I was thinking to myself, gee what movie could I show so I don't have to work for a couple of days. In one of my classes I did show Inside Job with English subtitles. I had to warn them ahead of time about the people in the film talking about prostitution and drugs use though.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:01 AM

19. Passing anything in the house will be very, very difficult.

Pelosi is going to have to keep all her folks in line, and Boehner is going to have to deliver enough sane Reps to get a majority.

There will probably be a Gang of X consisting of conservative Dems and sane Reps who will write a house bill of some sort.

I hope that the two of them will keep in touch with each other, Reid and Obama over the Christmas break.

It's going to be hairy.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:58 AM

20. I've watched politics for over 50 years and I've never seen a speaker humiliated so completely

The first law of holes: When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:20 AM

21. Speaker Cantor will get less done than Speaker Boehner.


Republicans will be pleased. Republicans don't like government anyway.

President Obama must prepare.
It's inevitable the Republicans will march us over the raising the debt ceiling cliff.

Remember Mr. President. You can't negotiate with terrorists.
They will only demand more the next time.

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Response to RickFromMN (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:34 AM

23. The GOP is perfectly fine with total and complete gridlock.

Dems actually want to govern. Which means to get anything done Dems end up giving up somethings. Or, nothing happens, which would (again) be fine with the GOP).

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:59 PM

24. Yes indeed. Except there are times no deal is better than a bad deal.

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Response to RickFromMN (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:14 PM

25. True ... but that can't be our only position.

Otherwise, nothing gets done at all.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:38 PM

26. We must have patience. We must hope the voters will kick the Republicans out in 2014.


In the meantime, we must play defense. We must defend our ground.

We must stop losing ground with nothing in return.

The Republicans will be more than happy to wreck Obamacare, wreck Social Security, wreck Medicare, wreck Medicaid.

They won't give an inch regarding raising taxes on the top 1%.
They won't let us pass meaningful reforms to curb corporate excesses, to pass meaningful Wall Street Reforms, to pass meaningful climate legislation, to pass meaningful gun control legislation.
They won't compromise their interests.

It takes two to negotiate.

When the other side won't compromise, and you already compromised a lot, you have to stop.

Do you really believe the middle class wins when the Democrats capitulate to the Republicans,
when the Republicans get 99%, even 100% their way, and the Republicans are still not satisfied?

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Response to RickFromMN (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:23 PM

28. Howard Dean has repeated recently that the cliff is better than anything else proposed

I trust Dean so I say, leave it alone until the new Congress returns at least.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:32 AM

22. Headline should be "Tea Party Filabuster's Boehner's Plan B"

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