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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:38 PM Dec 2012

Mosque arsonist tells court: 'I only know what I hear on Fox News'

Source: Rawstory.com

An Indiana man convicted of setting fire to a mosque in Ohio told a judge on Wednesday that he committed the crimes because Fox News and conservative talk radio had convinced him that "most Muslims are terrorists."

Randolph Linn, 52, accepted a plea deal in which he pled guilty to all charges in connection to setting a fire in the prayer room at the Islamic Center of Greater Toledo on Sept. 30. Under the deal, Linn is expected to serve 20 years in prison instead of 40. Linn explained to the court that he had gotten "riled up" after watching Fox News.

"And I was more sad when Judge (Jack) Zouhary asked him that, 'Do you know any Muslims or do you know what Islam is?'" one mosque member who attended the hearing recalled to WNWO. "And he said, 'No, I only know what I hear on Fox News and what I hear on radio.'" "Muslims are killing Americans and trying to blow stuff up,” Linn also reportedly told the judge. “Most Muslims are terrorists and don’t believe in Jesus Christ."

Linn claimed that he had consumed 45 beers in the 6 hours before leaving his Indiana home to set fire to the mosque, which he had discovered while working as a truck driver.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/20/mosque-arsonist-tells-court-i-only-know-what-i-hear-on-fox-news/

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Mosque arsonist tells court: 'I only know what I hear on Fox News' (Original Post) meegbear Dec 2012 OP
Can't wait to hear repugs try to defend this. louis-t Dec 2012 #1
I see a job dwigthreeD Dec 2012 #18
security guard at their corporate office maybe? tomm2thumbs Dec 2012 #30
Just wait. They will claim it's a Democrat rivegauche Dec 2012 #34
More than 7 beers an hour for 6 hours? Warpy Dec 2012 #2
I'm impressed by the capacity of his liver phantom power Dec 2012 #5
lite beer fro miller. mikeysnot Dec 2012 #19
Nahhh....Pabst Blue Ribbon Left Coast2020 Dec 2012 #53
At least PBRs are Union Made! nt. druidity33 Dec 2012 #55
he's lying of course. unblock Dec 2012 #27
Yeah, I've been retired too long Warpy Dec 2012 #48
in some cases, yes -- "a couple" usually means "a six-pack". unblock Dec 2012 #50
I doubt it was that many neeksgeek Dec 2012 #39
That's one thirsty dude! AAO Dec 2012 #51
At least he'll have a good gig for him on Fox News when he gets out in 2032 ck4829 Dec 2012 #3
I have to say that I think his sentence is ridiculously long. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #4
Admitted hate crime with a gun and sentence cut in half, he's lucky bigbrother05 Dec 2012 #7
Another victim Turbineguy Dec 2012 #9
The hope is probably that he'll sober up Warpy Dec 2012 #10
He may even convert to Islam while in prison arcane1 Dec 2012 #16
There is no parole in the federal system. This guy will do 17 years. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #20
Money well spent. secondvariety Dec 2012 #42
yeah, I gotta agree Roy Rolling Dec 2012 #13
"political correctness"? JHB Dec 2012 #41
He set a mosque on fire ck4829 Dec 2012 #22
I usually don't have much sympathy Politicalboi Dec 2012 #24
45 beers in 6 hours!?!? Recursion Dec 2012 #6
Wow Science Geek Dec 2012 #26
The liver clears alcohol at the rate of 1 oz per hour. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #40
More proof that Fox viewers are less informed that people that watch no news at all. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #8
Most Muslims don't believe in Jesus Christ. Dem2TheCore Dec 2012 #11
they believe he was a prophet mikeysnot Dec 2012 #21
They believe Jesus is one of the most important prophets Hugabear Dec 2012 #32
So instead of the "devil made me do it" EC Dec 2012 #12
Evidence to shutdown FOX liberal N proud Dec 2012 #14
K and R for Doocy Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #15
One wonders just how far the 1st Amendment extends. From shouting fire in a theater, to burning... Gregorian Dec 2012 #17
I'm for shutting them down, why would 47% of the people vote oldbanjo Dec 2012 #23
Actually Randolph, all Muslims believe in Jesus, they just believe something slightly different Exultant Democracy Dec 2012 #25
Really the arson got him one year. SCVDem Dec 2012 #28
Why is it this does Third Doctor Dec 2012 #29
They reported, HE decided. Logical isnt it? benld74 Dec 2012 #31
how many brain cells does drinking 45 beers kill? Enrique Dec 2012 #33
RE: Mosque arsonist tells court: 'I only know what I hear on Fox News' albear Dec 2012 #35
Would that make FOX cloudbase Dec 2012 #36
Another Fox Drone Who Watches Hannity Forrestted Dec 2012 #37
The Mosque to lawyer up against Fox news. sarcasmo Dec 2012 #38
Let's see... alchohol + Fox "News" = hate crime. sakabatou Dec 2012 #43
" I only know what I hear on Fox News" DFW Dec 2012 #44
Fox news should be required to have a warning label. aandegoons Dec 2012 #45
Fox news does more damage Reio88 Dec 2012 #46
Sentence is totally ridiculous. I've seen people get 1/3 the time for things that... BlueJazz Dec 2012 #47
Spam deleted by OKNancy (MIR Team) rivera Dec 2012 #49
It's already 12/21 in Australia, etc. SCVDem Dec 2012 #52
Stochastic Terrorism. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #54

rivegauche

(601 posts)
34. Just wait. They will claim it's a Democrat
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:56 PM
Dec 2012

in "disguise" trying to smear them. I would bet the farm on that.

Warpy

(111,224 posts)
2. More than 7 beers an hour for 6 hours?
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:41 PM
Dec 2012

Damn. I'm not sure whether I'm more impressed by the depth of his thirst, the size of his bladder, or the emptiness of his head!

unblock

(52,178 posts)
27. he's lying of course.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:10 PM
Dec 2012

any cop will tell you that whatever they say they were drinking, it actually was DOUBLE!

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
39. I doubt it was that many
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:37 PM
Dec 2012

While I'm sure he was *quite* drunk, that many "lite" beers in so short a time would, for a ~200 pound male, produce a blood alcohol level of roughly 0.5%; I'm not sure he would have been capable of driving ... if he had 45 beers.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. I have to say that I think his sentence is ridiculously long.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:46 PM
Dec 2012

20 years in federal prison?

The guy is a drunken idiot who tried to set a prayer rug on fire, and didn't do very well at that. And he had a gun.

How about restitution and a year or two to think about it?

It's not that I'm sympathetic to this guy; I just think a lot of our sentencing practices are insanely punitive. This is another one.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
7. Admitted hate crime with a gun and sentence cut in half, he's lucky
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:53 PM
Dec 2012

If he got a slap on the wrist, what message would be sent to the RWNJs?

Listen to Fox/Rush, get drunk, wave a gun around, and do something stupid. We don't need him on the streets.

Turbineguy

(37,312 posts)
9. Another victim
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:54 PM
Dec 2012

of Fox News.

Warning to Fox viewers: If you do what Fox tells you to do, the justice system wil fuck you big time!

Warpy

(111,224 posts)
10. The hope is probably that he'll sober up
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:58 PM
Dec 2012

and, deprived of Pox News and hate radio 24/7, start to think more clearly about things. That takes time.

He'll likely be out in 6 or 7 and that's appropriate for an old drunk who committed a hate crime.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
20. There is no parole in the federal system. This guy will do 17 years.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:21 PM
Dec 2012

Costing the taxpayers about $500,000.

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
13. yeah, I gotta agree
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:02 PM
Dec 2012

As repugnant as it is, 20 years for setting a fire with no fatalities is excessive and does little to rehabilitate the offender. Another example of judiciary political correctness. Even if it does punish for a hate crime, cruelty is not the answer.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
41. "political correctness"?
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:40 PM
Dec 2012

If you'd said "overly-strict sentencing guidelines that give insufficient latitude to judges" I'd probably agree with you. But "political correctness"? Can you expand on what you mean by that?

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
24. I usually don't have much sympathy
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:42 PM
Dec 2012

Either, but 20 years is too long. But since he's got time on his hands, he may find a shark of an attorney to sue Faux for his actions. This is what happens when you don't have to report the truth after all.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. 45 beers in 6 hours!?!?
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:52 PM
Dec 2012

Even if it's Whatever Lite, that's 5000 calories, and at 5% ABV a full quart of pure alcohol.

Science Geek

(161 posts)
26. Wow
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:57 PM
Dec 2012

When I heard 45 beers in 6 hours, it about floored me, I didn't even know that was possible.
Drinking the equivalent of a quart of 200 proof alcohol, or watching Fox News, is akin to insanity.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
40. The liver clears alcohol at the rate of 1 oz per hour.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:38 PM
Dec 2012

And there is..what? 1 oz of alcohol per bottle of beer?

But given his capacity, I woud say his liver was probably not functioning "normally"...

actually, I am astounded he could even remember a plan for more than 10 minutes, much less undertake one that involved several steps in sequence.
Or even walk.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
32. They believe Jesus is one of the most important prophets
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:46 PM
Dec 2012

Jesus is pretty high up there in the Islamic prophet hierarchy.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
17. One wonders just how far the 1st Amendment extends. From shouting fire in a theater, to burning...
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:13 PM
Dec 2012

Fox is treading a god damned thin line. I don't know what I'd have to give up if we agreed to shut them down. I wonder if it would curb my rights enough to not warrant pulling their plug. Evil shits.

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
23. I'm for shutting them down, why would 47% of the people vote
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:34 PM
Dec 2012

for an asshole like Romney, they are all brain washed or brain dead.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
25. Actually Randolph, all Muslims believe in Jesus, they just believe something slightly different
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:50 PM
Dec 2012

about him then main stream christians. Even then you can find a few sects of christianity that are closer to the muslims beliefs about Jesus then the main stream notions.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
28. Really the arson got him one year.
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 04:15 PM
Dec 2012

Being so bat crap stupid to listen to FOX and RW radio for his news got him 19 more!

 

albear

(33 posts)
35. RE: Mosque arsonist tells court: 'I only know what I hear on Fox News'
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:02 PM
Dec 2012

Now really! Does this surprise anybody?

DFW

(54,330 posts)
44. " I only know what I hear on Fox News"
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:06 PM
Dec 2012

And there's the problem.

If you watch Fox and actually believe what you hear, you don't KNOW anything.


It's like watching Mighty Mouse and actually believing a talking flying rodent is really
coming to save the day--and on just about the same intellectual level.

Reio88

(9 posts)
46. Fox news does more damage
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:12 PM
Dec 2012

Fox so called news does more damage in more ways than the mass murderer gunmen. instead of a gun commission we need a boycott commission. Never has hate, fear and violence been so instigated by a group since the start of the kkk or neo-nazi. Only dis-informational hate mongers watch Fox to gain approval for their prejudice views of vengeful anger.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
47. Sentence is totally ridiculous. I've seen people get 1/3 the time for things that...
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:31 PM
Dec 2012

...were WAY more serious.

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