HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » Ind. man: I burned Ohio m...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:38 PM

Ind. man: I burned Ohio mosque to avenge soldiers

Source: Associated Press

A former Marine from Indiana admitted Wednesday that he broke into a mosque in Ohio and set fire to a prayer rug because he wanted revenge for the killings of American troops overseas.

Randy Linn pleaded guilty to hate crime charges, saying he'd become enraged after seeing images of wounded soldiers in the news.

... When asked by a federal judge whether he thought all Muslims are terrorists, he answered: "I'd say most of them are."

A deal between prosecutors and Linn, 52, calls for him to be sentenced to 20 years next April. He pleaded guilty to intentionally damaging and destroying religious property and two gun-related charges.

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/12/19/5065674/man-says-he-burned-ohio-mosque.html

29 replies, 3155 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 29 replies Author Time Post
Reply Ind. man: I burned Ohio mosque to avenge soldiers (Original post)
Newsjock Dec 2012 OP
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #1
Aristus Dec 2012 #4
cstanleytech Dec 2012 #6
Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #8
kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #11
Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #15
struggle4progress Dec 2012 #17
du_grad Dec 2012 #18
MrSlayer Dec 2012 #20
du_grad Dec 2012 #28
defacto7 Dec 2012 #21
aquart Dec 2012 #25
ck4829 Dec 2012 #22
aquart Dec 2012 #24
Sunlei Dec 2012 #27
pscot Dec 2012 #9
Coyote_Tan Dec 2012 #26
slackmaster Dec 2012 #2
brett_jv Dec 2012 #19
frylock Dec 2012 #3
CurtEastPoint Dec 2012 #5
harmonicon Dec 2012 #7
SwankyXomb Dec 2012 #10
valerief Dec 2012 #12
muntrv Dec 2012 #13
davidpdx Dec 2012 #14
olddad56 Dec 2012 #16
Divine Discontent Dec 2012 #23
brooklynite Dec 2012 #29

Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:49 PM

1. I'd say 20 years for this fucker is about right.

What an ass.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:01 PM

4. 20 years with a Muslim cellmate.

Bon Voyage, asshole!...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:06 PM

6. Hopefully its 20 years without parole. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:16 PM

8. An ugly little hate crime, but 20 years is ridiculously harsh.

The guy burned a rug. Restitution for damages and a year or two to think about it.

We have some very punitive attitudes in this country, which could have something to do with the reason we're the world's number one jailer. The responses in this subthread are a case in point.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:16 PM

11. You give this guy a slap on the wrist and he'll be back with a Bushmaster in no time at all.

I am DONE with RW terrorism in this country.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:58 PM

15. A year or two in jail is hardly "a slap on the wrist"...

...except to Americans, who routinely embrace harsh sentences that make sane people scratch their heads.

I continue to maintain this is a good example of excessively punitive sentencing. There are too many others to go into.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:56 PM

17. I agree, if he only burned a rug

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:36 PM

18. He was pretty drunk when he did this - it was more than a rug that was damaged

"Linn said he had drunk 45 beers over a period of six or seven hours before he “jumped up” and drove to Ohio. He told the judge that he “definitely did not think about it.”

Glad you people are so smug. They had a school in the building and all of their educational materials were ruined. The Toledo Blade has covered this story extensively.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2012/12/19/Man-pleads-guilty-to-mosque-arson-fire.html

http://www.toledoblade.com/Religion/2012/11/13/Gift-of-books-helps-school-turn-page-on-arson-losses.html

"The Islamic School lost more than 1,000 books when the Islamic Center of Greater Toledo, the Perrysburg mosque where the school was located, was set fire Sept. 30 and the classrooms and contents were damaged by smoke and water."

I personally am glad they threw the book at him. What if there had been people in there and they didn't happen to find the fire and they were trapped??

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to du_grad (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:49 AM

20. 45 beers in 6 hours?

 

Who is this fucking guy? Andre the Giant?

That's nearly eight beers an hour for six hours straight. Unless he was doing some coke with it, I'm not buying. I can do some drinking and without help I can't do more than 15 or so before it's pass out time. And that's over a similar time period.


And forget about driving, most people wouldn't be able to walk.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MrSlayer (Reply #20)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:36 PM

28. I had a friend in college

He could drink a case of beer in a weekend. He also had major alcohol issues.

I used to work in a lab that did blood alcohol levels for their detox unit. You would be amazed at how high blood alcohols can get in hardened alcoholics. I've seen levels approaching .50, usually lethal for non-drinkers.

I would suspect his 45-beer binge had a longer time frame - possibly a couple of days, while he was working himself up into his beery frenzy.

The Indiana/Ohio turnpike is a straight road. I suppose all he would have to do to drive here is aim his car .

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to du_grad (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:35 AM

21. I think 45 beers in 6 or 7 hours

would require a port-a-urinal or a catheter with a very large bag.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to du_grad (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:39 AM

25. Or a fireman was killed putting the fire out?

20 years was light for a pure hate crime.

And I am completely unimpressed by the "Christ, was I drunk last night" defense.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:41 AM

22. He set fire to a mosque too

Thankfully it only lightly damaged the mosque, but I can picture this drunk idiot celebrating the mosque burning down if it did more damage and not noticing the fire spreading to other buildings, especially buildings that would have been occupied at the time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:33 AM

24. No.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:04 AM

27. when they use the hate law +/or the terror laws an arson becomes 20 years in Federal prison

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #1)


Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:05 AM

26. 20 years for property damage is too much...

 

People have been to jail for less time for taking a human life.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:53 PM

2. That rug really tied the room together, man

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to slackmaster (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:17 AM

19. And this guy pee'd on it ...

Dude?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:57 PM

3. have a nice trip

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:05 PM

5. disgusting

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 07:09 PM

7. In all of his 52 years, he never learned about irony? (nt)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:15 PM

10. I know they say there are no former Marines,

but when you betray the ideals of the Marine Corps as much as this man did, it fits.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:20 PM

12. Teh sToopiD. It HURTZ!!!! nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:43 PM

13. Please give him a Muslim cellmate!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:44 PM

14. I agree 20 years is not enough

I have been reading quite a bit about the Muslim faith for my law class and found a book written by a woman who immigrated to the US as a child growing up in California. The people who complain about Shari'a law and mosques really have no idea what the hell they are talking about. It is pure ignorance.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:25 PM

16. so our government illegally invades Iraq and Afghanistan,kills their people, destroy their..

countries and this guy wants revenge. If he wants revenge maybe he should take it out on the people who sent our servicemen overseas to kill people.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to olddad56 (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:44 AM

23. yeah, but, you know what kind of "news" he relies upon... n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:55 PM

29. ...after drinking 16 beers.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread