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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:34 PM

Heritage Action Urges ‘No’ Vote On Boehner’s ‘Plan B’

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IGOR BOBIC 1:14 PM EST, WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 19, 2012

Heritage Action, the lobbying arm of the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation, on Wednesday urged lawmakers to vote against House Speaker John Boehner's "Plan B" to avert the so-called fiscal cliff.

"America’s coming fiscal crisis is a result of overspending, not under-taxing," reads a statement on the group's website. "Allowing a tax increase to hit a certain segment of Americans and small businesses is not a solution; it is a political ploy."

Heritage Action added that it will include the vote, scheduled in the House later this week, on its legislative scorecard.

Another conservative group, Americans for Tax Reform, announced on Wednesday that a 'yes' vote on the legislation would not violate a pledge to not raise taxes, however.

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Reply Heritage Action Urges ‘No’ Vote On Boehner’s ‘Plan B’ (Original post)
DonViejo Dec 2012 OP
sharp_stick Dec 2012 #1
olddad56 Dec 2012 #2
Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #11
BlueManFan Dec 2012 #3
DallasNE Dec 2012 #4
AlbertCat Dec 2012 #5
mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #7
AlbertCat Dec 2012 #12
mostlyconfused Dec 2012 #13
AlbertCat Dec 2012 #15
Roy Rolling Dec 2012 #6
Lasher Dec 2012 #8
TrollBuster9090 Dec 2012 #9
LeftInTX Dec 2012 #10
amandabeech Dec 2012 #14

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:38 PM

1. OH NO.... NOT THE SCORECARD ANYTHING BUT THE SCORECARD!!!

Members of congress need to use bad marks on scorecards from shitholes like The Heritage Foundation, The Club For Growth and the fucking NRA as badges of honor.

If I was running for Congress I'd put my F from the NRA on the front of every piece of mail I sent out.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:08 PM

2. can't these elected congressmen think for themselves?

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:00 PM

11. I believe their pocketbook does the thinking

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:22 PM

3. Because They Are All Whores

for the campaign contributions that make them turn their back on their constituents. (And my apologies for all of the hard working whores who have sex for money...I respect you far more than I do these asshole politicians.)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:42 PM

4. This Is Political Theatre, Nothing More, Nothing Less

Cantor, not Boehner, has announced a vote on this for Thursday. No Committee hearings, no CBO score, no input from Democrats. It is one big PR stunt being played out as political theatre and the media should cover it as such. All they are trying to do is to get Democrats on record as voting against a tax cut extension for the bottom 1%. Note, Boehner's Plan B allows the payroll tax cut holiday to expire so it is a tax increase for all Americans with a job, fails to address unemployment benefits for the long term unemployed and a number of other items that need to be addressed. We don't need symbolic gestures in the theatre of the absurd but meaningful, serious proposals and this just laughs in the face of that.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:50 PM

5. "America’s coming fiscal crisis is a result of overspending, not under-taxing,"

What planet are they from, because it ain't this one. ANYONE can see the Bush tax cuts are a huge, if not the major, contribution. That and the outrageous spending on unnecessary wars with countries that are no threat to us.... also Bush's doing.

This attitude renders "Heritage Action" not worthy of consideration. They are useless.

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:57 PM

7. You know, if that were true...

That the tax cuts where the huge contributor to this, then raising taxes should fix it, but it won't. You cannot raise taxes on the rich high enough to cover the annual deficit. We reelected Obama and expect him come through on his promises, including a fairer tax code, but we also need to recognize reality. Raising the top marginal rate to 100%, on both wages and capital gains, would not come close to addressing the current deficits.

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Response to mostlyconfused (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:21 AM

12. cover the annual deficit

That isn't gonna solve the economic crisis either!

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:00 AM

13. No, but what chance do we have

if we continue to pile on over $1 trillion in debt every year. If we were not pumping cash into the system and keeping the interest rates so low (and interest payments on the debt lower), how much more trouble would be we in? Neither of those two things can continue indefinitely.

If you don't see adding a trillion or more in debt every year as a problem, then focus on raising taxes on the rich as a primary strategy..because that strategy will not get a handle on the annual deficit. If the deficit is a problem and addressing the deficit is a goal (it was one of Obama's stated goals for his first term), then it is going to take significant reductions in government spending, along with taxes. There is not enough income there to be taxed to go after this by taxes alone.

Look at how tax receipts as a percentage of GDP has trended over the years. Then look at how federal spending as a percentage of GDP has trended, and tell me that spending isn't a part of he problem too.

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Response to mostlyconfused (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:29 AM

15. If you don't see adding a trillion or more in debt every year as a problem,

I think it is a problem. But I don't think have a deficit is a problem.

Clinton raised taxes to a measly 39.6%....and introduced a mandatory minimum tax for corporations that was around the European corporate tax rate (16%?)...and we had a surplus. Remember?

Also, anyone not serious about Defense spending cuts is not serious about deficit reduction.

But I think to create jobs we need something like the PWA. That means government spending.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:51 PM

6. "think tank"

Why not "ignorance tank"?

They don't think, they sell failed ideas to a gullible public like drug pushers sell product to an addict. With apologies to drug pushers.

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Response to Roy Rolling (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:07 PM

8. Stink tanks

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:22 PM

9. Actually, that's great. If EVERY DEMOCRAT and a handful of teabagger votes against Boeher's Plan B,

The plan to cut taxes for $1 000 000 and under will be dead on arrival, and the only option left will be to vote FOR the bill the Democrats have already passed in the Senate, cutting taxes for $250 000 and under.

We all knew the Republicans were going to pull this stunt. Use the psychological language of 'millionaires' against us, saying "okay, let's raise taxes on millionaires and up.' But personally, I think $250 000 and up is acceptable, although I'd rather lower the threshold to $120 000. Somebody who earns TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH does not need a tax cut! Nevermind somebody who earns TWENTY ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH, which is what the $250 000 tax cut extension amounts to.

Somebody who earns $250 000 a year earns TWICE AS MUCH IN ONE MONTH as somebody working for MINIMUM WAGE earns in an entire YEAR.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 03:52 PM

10. +1

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:03 AM

14. All for naught. No vote on Plan B or anything else in the House.

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