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Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:10 AM

2012 Person of the Year: Barack Obama, the President

Source: Talkingpointsmemo/Time

In mid-December, as Obama settles into one of the Oval Office’s reupholstered chairs — brown leather instead of Bush’s blue and gold candy stripes — the validation of Election Day still hovers around him, suggesting that his second four years in office may turn out to be quite different from his first. Beyond the Oval Office, overwhelming challenges remain: deadlocked fiscal-cliff talks; a Federal Reserve that predicts years of high unemployment; and more unrest in places like Athens, Cairo and Damascus. But the President seems unbound and gives inklings of an ambition he has kept in check ever since he arrived at the White House to find a nation in crisis. He leans back, tea at his side, legs crossed, to explain what he thinks just happened. “It was easy to think that maybe 2008 was the anomaly,” he says. “And I think 2012 was an indication that, no, this is not an anomaly. We’ve gone through a very difficult time. The American people have rightly been frustrated at the pace of change, and the economy is still struggling, and this President we elected is imperfect. And yet despite all that, this is who we want to be.” He smiles. “That’s a good thing.”

Two years ago, Republicans liked to say that the only hard thing Obama ever did right was beating Hillary Clinton in the primary, and in electoral terms, there was some truth to that. In 2012 the GOP hoped to cast him as an inspiring guy who was not up to the job. But now we know the difference between the wish and the thing, the hype and the man in the office. He stands somewhat shorter, having won 4 million fewer votes and two fewer states than in 2008. But his 5 million-vote margin of victory out of 129 million ballots cast shocked experts in both parties, and it probably would have been higher had so much of New York and New Jersey not stayed home after Hurricane Sandy. He won many of the toughest battlegrounds walking away: Virginia by 4 points, Colorado by 5 and the lily white states of Iowa and New Hampshire by 6. He untied Ohio’s knotty heartland politics, picked the Republican lock on Florida Cubans and won Paul Ryan’s hometown of Janesville, Wis. (Those last two data points especially caught the President’s interest.) He will take the oath on Jan. 20 as the first Democrat in more than 75 years to get a majority of the popular vote twice. Only five other Presidents have done that in all of U.S. history.

There are many reasons for this, but the biggest by far are the nation’s changing demographics and Obama’s unique ability to capitalize on them. When his name is on the ballot, the next America — a younger, more diverse America — turns out at the polls. In 2008, blacks voted at the same rate as whites for the first time in history, and Latinos broke turnout records. The early numbers suggest that both groups did it again in 2012, even in nonbattleground states, where the Obama forces were far less organized. When minorities vote, that means young people do too, because the next America is far more diverse than the last. And when all that happens, Obama wins. He got 71% of Latinos, 93% of blacks, 73% of Asians and 60% of those under 30.

That last number is the one Obama revels in most. When he talks about the campaign, he likes to think about the generational shift the country is going through on topics like gay marriage — an issue on which he lagged, only to reverse himself last spring. He connects it to the optimism he felt as a young man, the same thing he always talks about with staff in the limo or on the plane after visits with campaign volunteers. “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice,” reads one of the quotes stitched into his new Oval Office rug — an old abolitionist cry that Martin Luther King Jr. repurposed while marching on Selma, Ala. Obama believes in that, and he believes he is more than just a bit player in the transition. “I do think that my eight years as President, reflecting those values and giving voice to those values, help to validate or solidify that transformation,” he says, “and I think that’s a good thing for the country.”

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Reply 2012 Person of the Year: Barack Obama, the President (Original post)
flpoljunkie Dec 2012 OP
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #1
malibea Dec 2012 #33
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #38
malibea Dec 2012 #46
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #61
malibea Dec 2012 #62
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #64
malibea Dec 2012 #66
RBInMaine Dec 2012 #35
Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #60
Eric the Reddish Dec 2012 #2
RBInMaine Dec 2012 #36
donheld Dec 2012 #57
malibea Dec 2012 #45
plethoro Dec 2012 #54
avebury Dec 2012 #3
Ineeda Dec 2012 #5
MADem Dec 2012 #26
malibea Dec 2012 #34
RBInMaine Dec 2012 #37
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #39
StevieM Dec 2012 #40
iemitsu Dec 2012 #4
Pirate Smile Dec 2012 #9
Hamlette Dec 2012 #11
iemitsu Dec 2012 #53
Orrex Dec 2012 #16
malibea Dec 2012 #47
erpowers Dec 2012 #6
duhneece Dec 2012 #7
jsr Dec 2012 #10
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #8
Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #22
malibea Dec 2012 #48
Myrina Dec 2012 #12
BumRushDaShow Dec 2012 #13
Hamlette Dec 2012 #14
MADem Dec 2012 #27
Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #31
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #42
malibea Dec 2012 #49
Bucky Dec 2012 #15
LTR Dec 2012 #17
neffernin Dec 2012 #18
amuse bouche Dec 2012 #19
Odin2005 Dec 2012 #20
Beacool Dec 2012 #21
Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #28
Beacool Dec 2012 #29
Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #30
Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2012 #67
Beacool Dec 2012 #70
Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2012 #73
malibea Dec 2012 #69
Beacool Dec 2012 #71
malibea Dec 2012 #72
StevieM Dec 2012 #41
Beacool Dec 2012 #50
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Beacool Dec 2012 #52
bullwinkle428 Dec 2012 #23
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quaker bill Dec 2012 #43
malibea Dec 2012 #63
femrap Dec 2012 #56
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pegasis Dec 2012 #44
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Beacool Dec 2012 #65
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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:21 AM

1. Well deserved, Mr. President. Now stand up for Working Americans!!

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:58 PM

33. What about Congress standing up?

Am I alone here, but since citizens are represented by at least 2 congressmen per state-counting the senate representatives you will arrive at a larger sum-why aren't these congressional representatvives being asked to stand up? Why aren't people calling on their congressmen to STAND UP for them?

The President has always been the one to STAND UP-without any backing from Congress.

So what's up with that? Why is it that you keep electing Congressmen who do nothing for you?

And why is it that no Congressman has initiated any law regarding gun safety-EVER- since all laws are initiated via Congress?

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Response to malibea (Reply #33)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:01 PM

38. Excellent response Malibea!

I could not agree with you more!

Welcome to DU.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:20 PM

46. Thanks for the hospitality!

Hi sheshe2, thanks for the warm hospitality-and greeting!

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Response to malibea (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:21 AM

61. That, too. Go read most of the stuff I write. I am one of the president's biggest supporters around

here. It was a statement of affirmation, not of criticism.

Thanks.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #61)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:15 AM

62. I know it is not criticism.

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Good morning, I know that your statements are not criticism, and I did not take them as such. I am only asking others to "ask" their representatives in Congress the same they "ask" of the President. He is only one man and can not do ANYTHING by himself, except Executive Orders, which he WOULD not be forced to do if the Congress supported him and backed him on bills that he wants.

I have read the "stuff that you write" and I do know that you are one of the President's most ardent and vocal supporters here on DU. And when I, myself, write "stuff", I am only supporting the President as well.

I support the President- sometimes it appears vehemently- because as another DU member said previously, it seems that we have some people on DU that will criticize the President no matter what he does; I only want the blame placed where it squarely belongs. And that place, more times than not, is with the Congress-not with the President- who I think has done a lot as a President given the obstacles and unfair treatment he has faced since day one of taking office.

In another vein, some of these DU commenter's probably did not even vote for the President, or anyone else for that matter, and are only using DU as a platform to verbalize what they REALLY think of the President, and use us as a "captive audience". There is really no hope for these kind of people, and unfortunately they will never change because this is their role in life; to disrupt the harmony of the world order and be miserable. And as they say "misery loves company", so take it for what it is worth. I am directing my comments at the OTHERS!

I again hope that we, us, or whatever pronoun you wish to use, will not use the President as a scapegoat for all of their desires and missed opportunies they have experienced. But, instead, put the blame where it really belongs, starting with their (DO NOTHING) Congress.

And if they did not vote, or voted for the "other person" they can also look in the mirror when they wish to play the "blame game".

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Response to malibea (Reply #62)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:22 AM

64. I called Chris Van Hollen's office (my congressman) yesterday. I also left messages for Cardin and

Milkulski, and another one at the White House hotline.

The difference between me and the ODSers is I'm proactive. The others sit online all day and whine. I tire of the whining myself.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #64)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:53 PM

66. Bless your heart!

Bless your heart for the WORK you do. Some people will never be anything but gripers-but it takes all kinds to make a world. I realized this in my forties after wearing myself out trying to get the results I knew we could get. I have spent the last 25 years doing just what I could do, without depending or expecting any help from anyone else. Boy, did it take a load off of my shoulders.

I learned from my study of psychology about "mismatched expectations"- which accounts for approximately 99% of disappointments, and anger. So, I mitigate my own cirsumstances and do not let myself expect too much from others; I just do what I can do and let others do what they want to do -or not. Either way, it is ok with me.

btw, I don't wait around for the reward.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:04 PM

35. Purist hyperbole. Ever hear of the auto bailout? Of reducing unemployment? Of supporting unemploy-

ment insurance? Of the stimulus and the education stimulus? Folks with your brand of hyperbole should go form the TeaLeftist Party.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #35)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 08:20 AM

60. I'm shocked at you, RBInMaine. I am one of the president's biggest fans. Don't you ever read anythin

I write?

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:24 AM

2. You won the Election, sir

 

Now it's time to act like it!

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Response to Eric the Reddish (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:05 PM

36. You ought to consider joining the TeaLeftist Purist Party which likes such hyperbole.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #36)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:58 AM

57. Maybe you need to join the Blindly Follow Democratic Hierarchy party.

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Response to Eric the Reddish (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:17 PM

45. He has been acting "like it" all the time.

What gives here? What do you mean "it's time to act like it"? The President has acted presidential the entire time . It is the Congress and their obstructionist behavior and demeanor that are "not acting like congressmen" or even ADULTS!

But the Congress are apparently ok for not doing anything for the people-at any time. The people are apparently happy with this; they keep getting voting these republican (and some dem) turds back into office!

Let me ask you: where have you been for the last 4-1/2 years?

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Response to Eric the Reddish (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:42 PM

54. Be careful, Eric; there are HM's

 

in these threads. For a while, you need to be respectful no matter what. When you get to 25,000 posts it starts to ease up. I got busted the other day for a post, but, in retrospect, I actually deserved it. A word to the wise.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:28 AM

3. Well that will make some

heads explode.



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Response to avebury (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:46 AM

5. Including, sadly, a whole bunch here on DU.

It amazes me that there are several DUers who clearly despise President Obama. Never a positive word from several, no matter what. They're either spewing vitriol that would inspire the worst bagger or they're utterly silent when he does an irrefutably good thing. It makes me sick. Really.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:41 PM

26. No matter what he does, for some, it's never enough. I don't get it, either. nt

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:04 PM

34. I agree with you, Ineeda!

It amazes me too-no matter what the President does, it is never good enough. I reminds me of a statement made in 2009 by Hillary Clinton when she stated that if President Obama proved that he could walk on water, certain people would say that he couldn't SWIM!

It is thoroughly disgusting to the max.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 06:06 PM

37. No worries. They are the FRINGE. They are the NON-REALITY TeaLeftist Purists.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:04 PM

39. +1

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Response to avebury (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:09 PM

40. My head isn't exploding, but I hope that eventually Time will pick Mother Nature (they once chose

"endangered Earth.")

I think President Obama is doing a good job, and is a worthy Man of the Year. But Hurricane Sandy demonstrated exactly what we are up against. Humanity is in serious jeopardy if we don't do anything about climate change--maybe even if we do.

The challenge is daunting and we haven't really begun to address it in a meaningful way. Maybe next year Time will do their part to help bring the issue to the forefront.

In the meantime, it didn't even get raised in this year's debates. So sad....and so dangerous.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:44 AM

4. If the president gives away any of our earned SS payments he will

deserve the recognition for being the most cruel democratic president on record.
He will be forever remembered as the man who starved old people to save a dime for the rich.
Some man of the year.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:08 AM

9. So fucking ridiculous and hyperbolic. It's the same President who, after a hundred years of

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multiple Presidents trying, got health insurance for tens of millions of uninsured.

I guess DU should be avoided for a while.

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Response to Pirate Smile (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:34 AM

11. +1

to think this BS is making it to the greatest page multiple times in the last 2 days is driving me crazy.

It reminds me of an old New Yorker cartoon: big fat cat in his huge fat cat office. In a chair opposite his desk sits an old lady. Caption reads: "Yeah, mother I know. But what have you done for me lately."

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Response to Pirate Smile (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 11:36 PM

53. Yep, expensive private insurance for people whose SS checks he plans

to reduce. Great.
I am old enough to remember before Reagan when the rich were taxed.
What is happening to working Americans is the result of policy and taking from old people to enrich the wealthy is not a plan to make things better.
My mother-in-law lives with me because her SS check and her retirement from working are not enough to have a place to live and eat. The elderly can not afford this hit and Obama does not have to propose doing it.
Its criminal.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:36 AM

16. And he stole my milk money, too.

Just sayin.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:36 PM

47. Write to your congressman.

You better be writing to your congressmen as they are the ones who will vote on any legislative bill-social security included. Don't blame the President, get your dander up for your congressmen/women. Or have you forgotten you have those people as representatives? It seems most people have forgotten/ or didn't know they have them!

By the way, why do you keep electing congressmen/women who do NOT REPRESENT YOU?

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:55 AM

6. The American People or People in General

I think it should have been the American people, or people in general. The American people and people around the world with their votes and protests had the most impact on the world in 2012.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:03 AM

7. Stand up for justice

Remove marijuana from Class A intoxicants, allow states to regulate & tax cannabis..cease imprisoning those involved in cannabis.

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Response to duhneece (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:12 AM

10. Stand up for something.

Period.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:06 AM

8. Forward.

“The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice,” reads one of the quotes stitched into his new Oval Office rug — an old abolitionist cry that Martin Luther King Jr. repurposed while marching on Selma, Ala. Obama believes in that, and he believes he is more than just a bit player in the transition.


I will stand with him. I will take his back!



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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:06 PM

22. ++++ me too

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:38 PM

48. Me, three!

Make that THREE standing for the President !

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:36 AM

12. Yes, "this is who we want to be" - so LISTEN TO US, not the Wall Street GOP!!

Dammit anyway!

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:36 AM

13. Congrats Mr. President!

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:45 AM

14. have you seen the changes in the oval office?

I was horrified by what W did to that room. Bad taste. But I didn't think Obama would change it because it seemed wasteful. And I hadn't heard that he did redo the room...almost entirely. It is mentioned in the Time article quoted above. Worth a look.

Glad he did, it is beautiful now. Zoom in on the new rug and see the quotes. Provides some insight into what Obama thinks important. Besides the arc of justice quote, the rug says, in the border around the seal, we have nothing to fear but fear itself; the welfare of each of us is fundamentally dependent on the welfare of all of us; no problem of human destiny is beyond human beings and government of the people, by the people, for the people.

great before and after photos here:

http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/west-wing/oval-office.htm

and the rug

http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/west-wing/oval-office/oval-office-obama-rug.tif

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:46 PM

27. That's a Childe Hassam painting from his "Flag" series to the left of the desk

(as we look towards it).

He has good taste.

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:07 PM

31. and, of course, the baggers have a problem with this, too

Complaining that Obama changed Dubya's decorations, and saying that the new Oval Office resembles the Jeffersons' living room:
http://hillbuzz.org/photos-the-exact-replica-of-the-oval-office-in-the-reagan-library-and-museum-65370

and Republicans wonder why folks think they're racist

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:18 PM

42. Only this one of the rug.


image hosting sites

I love PBO!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #42)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:42 PM

49. Too cute!

That caption is just too cute for words! And they seem to be having a nice conversation too

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:27 AM

15. Whoever gets elected president always makes Person of the Year.

You gotta go back to 1996 to find an exception (Clinton did get POTY again in 1998 after he slapped down that impeachment nonsense). In 2004 Dumbass got it for winning a second term, but obviously they should've given it to Karl Rove, the guy with his hand up the muppet.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:56 AM

17. I never seem to guess this one right

Though I figured Obama was the obvious choice. But I gambled on Time making an unpredictable choice. The guy I threw out there was business visionary Elon Musk, founder of SpaceX and Tesla Motors, an American car company whose all-electric sports car just nabbed Motor Trend Car of the Year. Yeah, I know, a pretty nerdy choice. But the guy is fascinating.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:15 PM

18. Was 2012 the year for this?

Other than winning an election (which is huge don't get me wrong), there has been very little successful legislation that made it through the past 12 months. I'm looking forward to what happens after the next 24 months (likely gridlock) and the democratic side has the power to pass immigration, gun control reform, and Obama care takes effect. The economy starts to grow at a rapid pace, lining up 2016 full term elections. That is when Obama will be the man.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:18 PM

19. Well deserved just for tolerating the crappy Cons

Did you see Mitt has been awarded Person of the Year for 1912



NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—In an extraordinary gesture of recognition for a losing Presidential nominee, Time magazine today named former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney Man of the Year 1912.

In a press release explaining its decision, Time’s editorial board wrote, “Even though his quest for the Presidency was unsuccessful, Mr. Romney’s ideas about foreign policy, taxation, wealth inequality, and women’s rights typified the year 1912 as no one else has.”

In giving Mr. Romney the nod, Time said that he beat out such other candidates for Man of the Year 1912 as Tsar Nicholas II of Russia, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, and Edward Smith, captain of the Titanic.

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/12/time-names-mitt-romney-man-of-the-year-1912.html#ixzz2FWUQfIRM

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:21 PM

20. US-centric BS, it should have been Malala!

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:01 PM

21. Exactly what I was about to post.

It should have been Malala. That brave little girl almost gave her life in her belief that all girls should be educated. Obama? Oh yeah, he won his reelection. So did Bush, for that matter.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:38 PM

28. Of course you think it should've been someone else.

In your eyes, Obama has done nothing to deserve anything in his life. You're so transparent.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #28)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 04:57 PM

29. Oh, he's done plenty.

That does not mean that Man of the Year should have gone to him this particular year. There are far more deserving people who should have won it. Then again, 5 Norwegians gave him the Nobel Peace prize in 2009 for doing what? For not being Bush?

Please.........

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Response to Beacool (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:05 PM

30. LOL

He deserved it. I'm sorry you don't agree - but the fact you don't makes it all the more sweeter that he won it!

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Response to Beacool (Reply #29)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 06:30 PM

67. that last line of yours is a statement i've grown to greatly dislike

since to me its shows a lack of interest by those using it to actually seek the facts(or that they purposefully ignore it to try making a point).

Obama gained the peace prize mainly due to his promotion of nuclear nonproliferation, as well as how his election changed the climate of international relations in a positive direction(to name two of the largest reasons)

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Response to Bodhi BloodWave (Reply #67)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:25 PM

70. I'm not a fan, but even if I were,

no president deserves a Nobel Peace prize just days after getting elected. There were far more deserving people. People who put their lives on the line every day to further peace in their own lands. The same as with Time magazine. I'm far from being the only one who thinks that Malala Yousafzai should have gotten the honor this year. That little girl is braver than most adults. The problem is than in this country we don't see beyond our shores and think that we are the best at almost everything.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #70)

Thu Dec 27, 2012, 09:36 AM

73. So you would have had no complaints about Obama getting it if he /hadn't/ become president

Now I'll admit I understand the view of those who think it was wrong, but I can't really agree with them.

I never paid much attention to the times 'poll', but I agree that Malala should have gotten it.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:56 AM

69. Yes, the President should have received the Nobel Peace Prize.

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I wanted to comment on this article earlier but I got busy commenting on some other responses but I am responding now because I see that I am not alone in my view that you are very biased against our President of the United States. You seem to imply that our President should NOT receive any POSITIVE commendation what so ever. You seem to find blame in any favorable result that accompanies the President.

First, you don't agree with the Norwegian committee that bestowed the Nobel Prize upon the President in 2009. Just because you don't think the committee's criteria is something that you would have proposed, does not make you CORRECT. Needless to say, YOU would have probably won the Prize yourself had you been on the committee, correct? Or just who exactly would you have selected to win the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009? Or haven't you thought that far, and as the old saying goes: Anybody but him!

How can you be a Democrat and not follow and encourage the duly elected leader of the Democratic Party, the President of the United States? How can you be so hateful, or is it just racism on your part that can not be explained in any other way?

Or are one of those people that I described earlier that just want to use this DU venue as your sounding board, you are not truly a Democrat but is just a miserable person who want to piss and moan about everything Democratic. You are hoping and wishing that someone will join you in your misery since "Misery indeed does love company"!

Just what is it with you?

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Response to malibea (Reply #69)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:30 PM

71. Being a Democrat does not mean that I'm brain dead and approve of everything

the party does or that I'm obligated to like every Democratic politician. NO president would have deserved a Nobel Peace prize just days after being elected. It demeans the meaning of the prize. I have no problem with Time choosing Obama as man of the Year in 2008 because his election was truly historical, but this year? No, the honor should have gone to the 14 year old girl from Pakistan who, despite death threats from the Taliban, continued to advocate for education for all girls. That child displayed courage beyond her years.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #71)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:05 PM

72. Again this is your opinion to which you are entitled.

Again, this is your opinion to which you are entitled, but you need to be careful in assessing how those officially assigned to choose a winner using approved criteria made their selection. Your choice might have been different, but this was not your call.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #28)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 08:14 PM

41. DI, Bea may not be an Obama fan, but she hasn't demanded to see his college transcript either. (eom)

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Response to StevieM (Reply #41)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:43 PM

50. Hi, Stevie!!!

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Response to Beacool (Reply #50)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:54 PM

51. Hi, Bea!!!

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Response to StevieM (Reply #51)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 10:11 PM

52. Happy Holidays to you!!!

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:14 PM

23. Thanks, Odin - I wanted to make this point as well. That little girl should

be seen as heroic figure of astronomical proportions given the message she was speaking and what she's experienced this year.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:30 PM

24. He'll take the oath on the 21st - nitpicky, I know.

Love that he is Man of the Year again, though.

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Response to SaveAmerica (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:01 PM

43. Not to be fussy but they are correct.

There will be a small private swearing in on the 20th, followed by the large public event on the 21st. Don't wanna be a pain but the 20th is my birthday, and this is the present I wanted.

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Response to quaker bill (Reply #43)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:42 AM

63. Happy Birthday to you!

Let me wish you a very happy and celebratory Happy Birthday. May you have many, many more!

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Response to SaveAmerica (Reply #24)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:20 AM

56. This is the

 

2nd time? When was the first?

Malala should have won....or the person who taped RobMe in Palm Beach.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:39 PM

25. The RW media is really frightened, aren't they?

Seems like they are doing so much sucking up in advance of "fiscal cliff" negotiations and in light of Obama's mandate to implement tax hikes on them.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 05:39 PM

32. Kick! n/t

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 09:03 PM

44. I was hoping it would be the voter

who stood in line for 2 hours, or 3 or 4, or 5 or more. In my mind those are the People of the Year.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:11 AM

55. I voted for Malala....

 

the young woman who took a bullet to the head so young Afghan women and girls could get an education.

If I were Obama, I'd be

ETA: Oh, and the US military and others have been bombarding this country for over 11 years now. No one really has any exact estimate of the number of children, women and elderly that have been killed, maimed and their lives just basically ruined.

So, yeah, I'd vote for Malala. She really has endured and assisted those in need.

I wish we'd stop killing them....the collateral damage. Wouldn't it be better to give all the women wearing burquas big guns that they could carry under all that material? And when they came upon a mean Taliban dude who whips them for showing an ankle, she could shoot him in the foot? Just asking.

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Response to femrap (Reply #55)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 11:39 AM

65. Not a bad idea.

It may have saved the workers in Pakistan who were vaccinating against polio.

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:11 AM

58. Cover of that issue

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Response to underpants (Reply #58)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 07:27 AM

59. =|:-)>

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Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:35 AM

68. Vicky Soto should be the one instead

 

This is another bullshit Time magazine call for the dupe we voted for because Romney was far worse. This guy is continuing the worst of the Bush years foreign policy, still murdering brown people for their resources, using my brothers-in-arms as his minions. You want a real hero, look to the young woman who gave her life to save her class of children. Not this 'just one more' political hack.

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