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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:56 PM

BREAKING: Michigan Gov. Snyder To Veto Bill Allowing Guns In Schools

Source: think progress

ne day before the tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, the Michigan Legislature passed a bill to specifically allow guns into schools and other “gun-free zones.” This bill joined a so-called “right-to-work” law and an extreme abortion ban, the GOP-controlled legislature rammed through during its lame duck session.

Following the mass-shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, however, Gov. Rick Snyder (R-MI) promised to give the guns bill “extra consideration.” According to the Detroit News, Snyder has now decided to veto the legislation.

Gov. Rick Snyder plans to veto legislation allowing concealed weapons in public schools, according to bill sponsor Sen. Mike Green, R-Mayville.
The bill allowing highly trained gun owners to carry concealed weapons inside public schools was delivered to Snyder’s desk Tuesday.
“He’s not going to sign it,” Green told The Detroit News.

The Connecticut tragedy has already forced many strident gun supporters to re-examine their beliefs. Most notably, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), who once cut an ad featuring himself literally shooting a piece of legislation, is now leading the push for gun control on Capitol Hill in Sandy Hook’s wake.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/18/1355081/rick-snyder-guns/

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Reply BREAKING: Michigan Gov. Snyder To Veto Bill Allowing Guns In Schools (Original post)
trailmonkee Dec 2012 OP
ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2012 #1
Myrina Dec 2012 #2
JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #3
MichiganVote Dec 2012 #14
JohnnyRingo Dec 2012 #16
tclambert Dec 2012 #18
still_one Dec 2012 #4
BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #5
theaocp Dec 2012 #6
deancr Dec 2012 #17
Flatulo Dec 2012 #7
Deep13 Dec 2012 #12
Flatulo Dec 2012 #13
fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #8
rocktivity Dec 2012 #9
Deep13 Dec 2012 #10
Zoeisright Dec 2012 #11
loyalkydem Dec 2012 #15
Kelvin Mace Dec 2012 #19
llmart Dec 2012 #21
aquart Dec 2012 #22
JI7 Dec 2012 #20
Archae Dec 2012 #23
Patiod Dec 2012 #24

Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:00 PM

1. K&R nt

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:03 PM

2. Only because it would ruin what's left of his career ...

... there's no excuse for a bill like that to even be brought to the floor of ... anywhere ... but the nutbags currently running MI obviously didn't give a shit UNTIL this weekend.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:05 PM

3. Seems like common sense to me.

Up front I have to say I'm a gun owner, but I don't labor under the illusion that I'm the Lone Ranger.

When my friends point out that people with concealed weapon permits will stop murders, I ask how many concealed pistols they think were in that movie theater in Colorado last year.

It's Colorado for Christ sake, where guns are considered a birthright, and not one person stepped up and jeopardized his/her own life to take that killer out.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:51 PM

14. As a gun owner, in Mi. you can walk into a school with an unconcealed gun.

Needless to say-the stupids in Mi gov't have not fixed that. Course' you're likely to be met with a Principal and a District policy but it is the law in Mi. as yet that you can show up with a gun, unconcealed, at a school in Mi.

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:28 PM

16. I'll never understand that.

I've been under fire here for most of a week as a right wing nut job because I call for common sense regulation instead of an impossible to implement outright ban on responsible ownership, but that law in MI is just crazy. I don't see the reasoning beyond satisfying the NRA in their no holds barred lobby effort.

The way some teachers can try the patience of parents, it sounds like smoking a cigar on a powder keg.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 06:33 PM

18. How many people with concealed weapons permits HAVE stopped murders?

If it's concealed, you can't argue that a mad gunman knew about the concealed weapon and it scared him off. Has there ever been a case where a mass shooting ended when one of the potential targets took out the shooter?

This sounds like one of those theoretical solutions that has in reality never ever worked.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:06 PM

4. It took 26 people that were killed for him to do this, or he would not have

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:09 PM

5. Shame works

Shame on all those who would have had him sign that. Shame!

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:11 PM

6. That's my guv!

A profile in courage.

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Response to theaocp (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 05:29 PM

17. My guv too

for two more years. I was starting to worry about our state, but I believe they're on to him. Ahh.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:18 PM

7. So in other words, Adam Lanza is in big trouble now?

Laws like this are essentially useless. Once a shooter decides to enter a a school armed to the teeth hell bent on achieving the new high score, what will this law accomplish? Nothing. Then the NRa will argue that gun laws are useless, and they'll be right.

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Response to Flatulo (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:36 PM

12. I've never heard of that guy.

I do know the name Victoria Soto who deliberately sacrificed herself to save children. I'll never forget THAT name.

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:48 PM

13. You know, that's at least a part of this mass killer phenomenon. The media

immortalizes the loser, making him in death what he could never achieve in life - famous.

I'd like to see the shooter remain anonymous and planted in an unmarked grave.

Not bloody likely, though.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:19 PM

8. A Pro-Gun VETOED !

One battle won one day at a time.

What's up next?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:21 PM

9. CUE THE VONAGE THEME!

Yes, we CAN make him blink!


rocktivity

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:34 PM

10. Don't worry, he still hates workers and women. nt

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:35 PM

11. Well well.

The pussy grew some balls.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:55 PM

15. Is speechless

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 07:37 PM

19. Surprising!

But then, why do I feel the bill will be re-introduced when the massacre blows over?

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:30 PM

21. The liar Snyder.....

faces a different legislature come January.

He's a lying piece of shit. He would have signed this bill in a heartbeat if Newtown hadn't happened and he would have smiled doing it. The sane people of Michigan, myself included, called, emailed, tweeted, etc. the prick and told him he better not even think about signing it.

It's a start. One small step at a time. Expose these sleazy politicians.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:33 AM

22. Because this was lame duck assholery.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:04 PM

20. couldnt the killer been considered "highly trained" ?

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 02:44 AM

23. I think Snyder is just trying to look good, politically.

His boys in the lege will over-ride his veto.

And Snyder knows it.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:33 PM

24. Would YOU want unionized teachers armed

if you were him, after what he did to unions?

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