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alp227

(31,960 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:06 PM Dec 2012

Ireland to legalise abortions where woman's life is at risk

Source: the guardian

In a move unthinkable even a few years ago, the Irish government has confirmed it will introduce legislation permitting abortions in limited circumstances.

The decision follows pressure from the European court of human rights, which ruled that abortions should be allowed in the republic in cases where a woman's life was at risk.

The taoiseach, Enda Kenny, who represents one of the most traditional rural Catholic constituencies in Ireland, said the Fine Gael-Labour coalition would proceed with a mixture of "legislation with regulation".

The measures would be based on proposals from the so-called Expert Group. The reforms are expected to allow for terminations where there is a medical risk to a woman's life or when she is thought to be in danger of killing herself. It is unclear whether the law will allow for terminations in cases of rape or sexual abuse.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/18/ireland-legalise-abortion-life-risk

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BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
1. Wow. How generous of them!
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:07 PM
Dec 2012

Just a good example of WHY the Roman Catholic Church should get the fuck out of politics. The sterile eunuchs of the RCC shouldn't EVER be allowed to make ANY choices about what a woman does or doesn't do with her own body.

Rambis

(7,774 posts)
4. Good friend was almost an Irish statistic
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:11 PM
Dec 2012

they finally did the procedure but she almost died when the kids were already gone.

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
5. It seriously sucks when it gets to that point, there needs to be a higher authority
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:14 PM
Dec 2012

step in and tell them to do the procedure to save the life.

CarmanK

(662 posts)
7. TOO BAD, they let that young woman DIE, pleading to LIVE! How many others?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:20 PM
Dec 2012

What is the body count aggregation in order for this law to be passed?
How many died, before social media made this a horrendous violation of human rights?

aquart

(69,014 posts)
13. How's that doctor doing? Got a lot of new patients?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:19 PM
Dec 2012

Because I really want someone who will kill me for the Pope.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
8. I thought they already had it that way,
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:27 PM
Dec 2012

but the doctors there still refused that poor woman an abortion.

It looks like they're adding a mental health, rape, and incest clause now.

Will they also allow a conscience cop-out for the doctors?

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
14. The Courts ruled against law. The Legislature made no moves. Doctors did not have regs.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 04:08 PM
Dec 2012

Once the courts ruled there was no law against it, but no law allowing it. So they were afraid of being prosecuted.

This will give them limited, but at least defined, situations in which they will be allowed to do their job.

petronius

(26,580 posts)
10. I thought they already had that, but doctors were too afraid of making
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 02:48 PM
Dec 2012

the 'life at risk' call for it to be any good. If this doesn't include some sort of iron-clad protection for doctors and women making that decision, this seems like little more than CYA window-dressing.

And in truth, the only way to really provide 'protection of life' access is an absolute pro-choice position...

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
11. So let let ectopic pregnancies rupture?
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:02 PM
Dec 2012

Let god/nature "abort" the baby and then furiously try to save the woman's life?

No abortions on a fallopian tube?

aquart

(69,014 posts)
12. Oh, gee. How magnanimous.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:17 PM
Dec 2012

Sanctimonious pricks.

A church of men, murdering women for centuries while government kowtows.

I LOVE THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! Let's have more of it.

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