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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:40 PM

Gingrich says NBC should have allowed clapping: ‘Media doesn’t control free speech’

Yahoo News:

Newt Gingrich got a standing ovation at last week's CNN-hosted debate in South Carolina. NBC, which hosted last night's Republican debate in Jacksonville, Florida, would not stand for it.

Brian Williams began the debate broadcast by warning the crowd of 500 at the Univ. of South Florida not to applaud during the debate itself.

"I wish in retrospect I'd protested when Brian Williams took them out of it because I think it's wrong," Gingrich told "Fox & Friends" on Tuesday. "And I think he took them out of it because the media is terrified that the audience is going to side with the candidates against the media, which is what they've done in every debate.

"We will serve notice on future debates, we're not going to allow that to happen," Gingrich added. "That's wrong. Media doesn't control free speech. People ought to be allowed to applaud if they want to. It's almost silly."


Apparently, if Newt can't get his ego stroked, he doesn't do well...

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Reply Gingrich says NBC should have allowed clapping: ‘Media doesn’t control free speech’ (Original post)
brooklynite Jan 2012 OP
crazylikafox Jan 2012 #1
MaineDem Jan 2012 #4
BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #21
cstanleytech Jan 2012 #28
BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #30
FSogol Jan 2012 #2
JoePhilly Jan 2012 #32
The Genealogist Jan 2012 #38
Stand and Fight Jan 2012 #3
annabanana Jan 2012 #5
calimary Jan 2012 #9
horseshoecrab Jan 2012 #14
kentauros Jan 2012 #42
horseshoecrab Jan 2012 #47
kentauros Jan 2012 #48
elleng Jan 2012 #6
JDPriestly Jan 2012 #7
jpak Jan 2012 #8
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #10
Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #16
Javaman Jan 2012 #11
jayfish Jan 2012 #12
Loge23 Jan 2012 #13
Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #15
AlbertCat Jan 2012 #17
ewagner Jan 2012 #18
Shadowflash Jan 2012 #19
barbtries Jan 2012 #20
yellowcanine Jan 2012 #22
Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #45
Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #23
EC Jan 2012 #24
niyad Jan 2012 #25
provis99 Jan 2012 #26
pansypoo53219 Jan 2012 #27
deacon Jan 2012 #29
SemperEadem Jan 2012 #31
nxylas Jan 2012 #33
Beartracks Jan 2012 #34
SemperEadem Jan 2012 #43
spedtr90 Jan 2012 #35
Odin2005 Jan 2012 #36
Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2012 #37
Bjorn Against Jan 2012 #39
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2012 #40
cstanleytech Jan 2012 #41
lunatica Jan 2012 #44
DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #46

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:48 PM

1. Isn't "No Applause" standard for Presidential Debates??

I guess Newtie's not ready for prime time afterall. Without the crowd's reactions to his racist dog whistles he can't perform.

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Response to crazylikafox (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:56 PM

4. That's what I remember. n/t

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Response to crazylikafox (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:47 PM

21. That's what I remember and that's how it should be

because Presidential Debates are not a broadcast of the Jerry Springer Show. This is serious stuff. This is about learning what the candidates can do better than President Obama, not tossing red meat into a crowd with foaming lips.

Newt is NOT ready for prime time. But it's clear he's ready to be a guess on the Springer show - or one like it.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:53 PM

28. OH please, you know that is not true

that he is rdy for Springer, he needs something far more softcore that will enable his views while at the same time not challenging them with things called "facts" like the following shows.
Fox and Friends
The O'Reilly Factor
Your World with Neil Cavuto
Hannity

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:52 PM

30. You're right!

My bad.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:52 PM

2. Newt Gingrich says NBC should have allowed flinging feces: ‘Media doesn’t control free speech"



The reason to avoid clapping and demonstrations is to give the candidates more time to talk. Instead, we'll get to see Newt's insane followers bellow and screech.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:37 PM

32. He also wanted to allow cross burning, but the damn fire marshall said not inside the building!!!

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 09:11 PM

38. Why does that fire marshall hate free speech? n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:53 PM

3. What a vile, vile little man. n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:59 PM

5. So.. He can't operate without his Greek Chorus? Won't perform without a net?

Without his screaming, bloodthirsty harpies he doesn't look so good, does he...

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Response to annabanana (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:14 PM

9. No freakin' kidding!

Asshole needs his honking braying fellow-assholes to back him up. Whining about it when they're kept silent - so the debate can assume a modicum of respect.

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Response to calimary (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:43 PM

14. abso-freaking-lutely calimary

Newt can't take it when the arena doesn't have the ambiance of a pro wrestling match!

Boo-hoo Newtie.


horseshoecrab



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Response to annabanana (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:18 AM

42. Peter Bergman (of Firesign Theater) has some excellent commentary

on his site "Radio Free Oz": In Which Mitt Rises From The Ashes

I didn't watch the debate, but I can just imagine it from how he puts it to (often hilarious) words

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Response to kentauros (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:32 AM

47. Yes!

I love Bergman's take on Newt's dissatisfaction with the civilized format: "...because he doesn't have a blood sport audience..."

Perfect!

Thanks kentauros. Good to hear Bergman's take! Bookmarking Radio Free Oz right now.


horseshoecrab

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Response to horseshoecrab (Reply #47)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:35 PM

48. You're welcome!

I actually forgot I had the link and was going through my "several hundred open tabs" () and found it, liking what I heard. I'll have to see what he said today. Might be worth subscribing to his podcasts, too

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:01 PM

6. Media controls the 'speech' it sends forth. Wouldn't want government to force them, would we???

GOVERNMENTS cannot abridge Free Speech.
Jerk, but he's making the point for his sycophants.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:03 PM

7. Actually, Gingrich needs to talk to Justice Kennedy about that.

. . . . All speakers, including individuals and the media, use money amassed from the economic marketplace to fund their speech, and the First Amendment protects the resulting speech. Under the antidistortion rationale, Congress could also ban political speech of media corporations. Although currently exempt from §441b, they accumulate wealth with the help of their corporate form, may have aggregations of wealth, and may express views “hav little or no correlation to the public’s support” for those views. Differential treatment of media corporations and other corporations cannot be squared with the First Amendment , and there is no support for the view that the Amendment’s original meaning would permit suppressing media corporations’ political speech. Austin interferes with the “open marketplace” of ideas protected by the First Amendment . New York State Bd. of Elections v. Lopez Torres , 552 U. S. 196 . Its censorship is vast in its reach, suppressing the speech of both for-profit and nonprofit, both small and large, corporations. Pp. 32–40.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-205.ZS.html

This is a quote from the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision.

The media has the right to deprive others of free speech. It is a private company.

The First Amendment only requires the government to respect your right to free speech, Mr. Gingrich. That is elementary to an understanding of our Constitution. If you don't know that, Mr. Gingrich, you have no business running for president. The job is way over your head.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:09 PM

8. Sorry Newt - douchebaggery is not a constitutional right

nope

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:19 PM

10. Be careful what you ask for, Newt. You might get it.

Although the Roman forum audiences Newt likes clearly stoke his ego, they do another thing, as Joan Walsh just pointed out:

I missed the rowdy GOP audience in this debate. Everyone who watches plays the popular guessing game, “What cruelty will provoke lusty boos or cheers this time around?” Will they applaud the death penalty, people dying without medical care, the idea that the unemployed deserve their fate or the dressing down of the only black moderator? Will they boo gay soldiers or a moderator’s timid question about Gingrich’s second adultery-driven divorce? Gingrich wasn’t the only one disappointed NBC silenced the crowd.


http://www.salon.com/2012/01/24/mitt_pounces_newt_pouts_two_rich_guys_squabble/

That is, they show the whole world how evil, cruel and bloodthirsty the GOPer base really is.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:47 PM

16. I agree with Joan

I watched the debate, and it was just, flat.

Its much more enjoyable to hear what unpossibly stupid soundbytes are resonating with the troglodytes picked to sit in the audience.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:21 PM

11. creating controvercy where there is none to stroke his brused ego by not getting

immediate adoration.

typical lizard.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:35 PM

12. Some Constitutional scholar he is.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:40 PM

13. Oh! the humanity!

...when the airship Gingrich eventually blows!
This will be fun to watch - and it's coming. No way his Newtness makes it through to Election Day without blowing himself up!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:43 PM

15. Lazy journalism. The debate was in Tampa.

Yeah, Florida can be a really bizarre state, but at least they didn't think to locate the "Univ. of South Florida" in the most Northern city in the state...

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:54 PM

17. Wait.... what? Newt has the clap now?

Or does he want to get the clap?

Some people say.....


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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:09 PM

18. Poor poor Newtie...

After he took all that time to pack the audience with his cheerleaders, sycophants, and psychopaths, he couldn't get it up...or...ah...I mean THEM up. (blush)

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:10 PM

19. Free market!

If newtie doesn't like it, he's free to chose another network to debate on.

Why is he bashing innocent corporate people?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:23 PM

20. his whining was heard.

really. why not act as if it's a fucking rock concert or baseball game instead of the future of the nation?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:03 PM

22. If NBC is paying for it they can make whatever rules they want. And Newt can choose to participate

or not. And the crowd can choose to participate or not. What is not free about that?

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:51 AM

45. Precisely

Their game and their rules.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:06 PM

23. What Gingrich fails to mention is that the studio audience is microscopic compared to the

viewing audience; watching on television.

Air time is limited, studio controlled applause and/or boos only serves to manipulate and/or hinder the "free speech" or transfer of information between the candidates and the millions of Americans in the viewing audience.

Thanks for the thread, brooklynite.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:08 PM

24. Not just stroked,

He uses the audience for cover to say demeaning mean things with back up.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:31 PM

25. on the other hand, how would he like it if a bunch of people who despise him got into the audience a

and BOOOOOED every time he opened his mouth?

free speech and all that, you know

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:35 PM

26. Newt, NBC is not the government.

 

NBC can ban any speech it wants, since it is a corporation. Stupid, ignorant man.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:36 PM

27. perhaps he wants seig heils as well.

nt

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:50 PM

29. Mr. Doublespeak relies on inflection. n/t

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:26 PM

31. Um, did NBC spring this on you at the last minute

or did you know about it prior, like with most debates, they discourage disruption because of the time factor involved with debates.

Neut, as usual, is making an issue out of a non issue because he's that fucking desperate.

To put it in Scalia-speak: well, if you dont' like it, you don't have to run for president--don't attend the debates, jerk.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:20 PM

33. He can't function without his anger track

(Stolen from Tom Tomorrow)

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:25 PM

34. GOP only wants praise, not protest.

Applause is free speech, protest is not, I guess.

What's the term for that, psychologically speaking?

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #34)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 05:37 AM

43. love that image!

very well put.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 07:57 PM

35. Newt wants to regulate a corporation?

Well sure, if its rules interfere with his pleasure.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:13 PM

36. Newt is the classic Narcissist.

This proves it.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 08:53 PM

37. it's a wonder he didn't bring his own clapping machine

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Tue Jan 24, 2012, 10:49 PM

39. If he wants free speech in the debates the audience should give it to him...MIC CHECK!!!

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:02 AM

40. That was the rule when I went to a Congressional candidates' debate

Though the red-shirted senior citizen teabaggers often couldn't control their outrage towards the Democratic incumbent because he voted for HCR.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:13 AM

41. Someone should make the idiot read the constitution because it

only limits the governments ability to limit freespeech it doesnt say squat about tv stations or newspapers not being allowed to censor what they want.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 06:39 AM

44. Gingrich's audience should be encouraged to act out so we see them for what they are

Racist, homophobic, misogynist, assholes who hate the sick.

I'd rather know the truth than keep on pretending they're civil.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:10 AM

46. Sorry, I misread the Headline

 

I thought Newtie was saying the clap should be allowed. My mistake.

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