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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:08 PM

Senators want commission to look at mass shootings

Source: AP



BY BY ANNE FLAHERTY, ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two senators are calling for a national commission to examine mass shootings in the United States, while a colleague says she’s push to ban the sale of military-style assault weapons.

The proposals are among the first to come from Congress in the wake of Friday’s school shooting in Newtown, Conn.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, tells “Fox News Sunday” that a national commission could be used to scrutinize the nation’s gun laws, mental health system and the role that violent video games and movies might play in shootings. Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois agrees, and says it’s time that the nation reflects in a “thoughtful way.”

Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California tells NBC’s “Meet the Press” that she’ll revive her plan to ban new assault weapons.

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Read more: http://www.salon.com/2012/12/16/senators_want_commission_to_look_at_mass_shootings/

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Reply Senators want commission to look at mass shootings (Original post)
DonViejo Dec 2012 OP
graham4anything Dec 2012 #1
atreides1 Dec 2012 #5
bossy22 Dec 2012 #10
JDPriestly Dec 2012 #16
forthemiddle Dec 2012 #34
ricardA Dec 2012 #35
zebrastripe Dec 2012 #13
graham4anything Dec 2012 #18
axetogrind Dec 2012 #17
beevul Dec 2012 #31
graham4anything Dec 2012 #32
LynnTTT Dec 2012 #2
YOHABLO Dec 2012 #25
Laurian Dec 2012 #3
LiberalEsto Dec 2012 #4
Danmel Dec 2012 #6
bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #7
groundloop Dec 2012 #8
Gregorian Dec 2012 #9
Third Doctor Dec 2012 #11
Iliyah Dec 2012 #12
roseBudd Dec 2012 #14
undeterred Dec 2012 #29
LiberalElite Dec 2012 #15
kurtzapril4 Dec 2012 #19
neverforget Dec 2012 #20
Historic NY Dec 2012 #21
mulsh Dec 2012 #22
alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #23
olddad56 Dec 2012 #24
zebrastripe Dec 2012 #26
mrdmk Dec 2012 #27
Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #28
glinda Dec 2012 #30
Hekate Dec 2012 #33
KittyWampus Dec 2012 #36

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:10 PM

1. Name Mike Bloomberg head of the commission and elect Vicky Kennedy to US Senate to lead

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:25 PM

5. Bloomberg

I don't think so...and you really want to wait until 2014 for Vicky Kennedy to be elected to the US Senate...that's if she's even thinking about running for the seat!

Bloomberg is too much of a control freak and has his own agenda, it's well known he doesn't believe in the 2nd Amendment...and therefore will not be able to provide an unbiased decision...but I think that's what the anti-gun nuts want...a ringer, someone who they know will call for the banning of all handguns if not all guns!


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Response to atreides1 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:58 PM

10. agreed

I think whoever heads it will have to be someone neutral on the issue. Any leaning to either side will make the counter side more likely to reject the findings if it is not to their liking

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Response to bossy22 (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:54 PM

16. By neutral, do you mean someone who does not care how many Americans die each year from

senseless shootings -- as long as they can have their gun and the possibility of shooting someone themselves?

It is very hard to be neutral about guns.

Gun fanatics need to consult their own common sense and propose some realistic solutions here.

In this case, the mother encouraged her son's interest in guns.

Every gun fanatic should take note of that fact and ask him- or herself what can be done.

Those of us who don't want to be bothered with owning guns quite naturally would just as soon ban all but the most basic hunting rifles. If gun lovers have a different alternative that they think is better, they should suggest it.

Because, if the nation faces any more shootings of this brutality, barbarity, cruelty and hideousness, we will move toward a total ban.

I don't favor a total ban, but it's up to the NRA and its supporters to propose a workable solution short of that.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #16)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:27 AM

34. honest question

Would you want a pro life supporter to head a commission on looking into reducing teenage pregnancies? Of course not. You would NEVER accept the recommendations.

It must be someone neutral, or at the least two co heads, one from pro 2nd Amendment, one pro gun control.

We also have to get honest about the break down of the family (and that is any family - gay, straight, etc.) but the family is no longer the center of our lives, and maybe that along with responsibility, and accountability of our teenagers may need to be looked at.

Violent movies, and video games. Mental health, etc. NOTHING should be off the table.

This won't be solved by more gun control laws alone.

I don't have the answers, but I am willing to look at all possible solutions.

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Response to forthemiddle (Reply #34)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:17 PM

35. People are victims, people must participate in planning, government does its part.

 

There are at least 200 million non politicians adults that could contribute with ideas, but if an open round table is set up to gather info and discuss solutions it would be best. Basically and ad hoc commision of volunteers that are given acces to the neccessary information, and they should be from across all sector of society. That draft is made public and passed on to the legislators, they seem to be too busy in other things of priority to them. It shouldn't take more than a few weeks. Then they write the law based on that, no need to spy on any one because is an open and respectful discussion.

Many laws could be written but it apparently takes more than that. So in parrallel other actions must be taken, people can add that to the conflict resolution drafted by people using the web, like in a forum. Again, I think part of the problem is the need for income, dignity in earning it, and basic social and moral values. And you find that in all kind of people so the variety is not the problem. The good question is why and the true source of the problems. Millions of people ask the same question, and the answer is not more media coverage.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:45 PM

13. Anti-gun Nuts

to be against the killings caused by the firing of a gun is to be a Nut.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:09 PM

18. Why does a person want a gun for and why?

 

If say the nation is made safe by having no guns and strong punishment for those that do,

please tell me, what do they want a gun for?

Can't they go bowling or play golf? Ping-pong?

I just don't get it.

all the reasons people say they want guns
it's like cigarettes

people used to want cigarettes

now most don't
They can have carrots or celery sticks instead

What do they want a gun for that would be so bad if you did not have one.

someone please tell me

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:57 PM

17. Bloomberg?

 

Why Bloomberg? Wouldn't you want someone whose not biased? Wouldn't you want someone who is honest?
Mr. Bloomberg is none of that, I would like someone who is neutral and able to be honest.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:04 AM

31. Mayor "1 percent stop and frisk" No. Just No. N/t

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Response to beevul (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:53 AM

32. If you actually want gun control, then Mike is the go-to person on this.Simply the best

 

and the stereotyping with the 1% is just ridiculous.

Do you even know how much charity and to which causes, Mike has given in his lifetime?

BILLIONS and all to liberal causes, like the environment

when people start lumping everyone into a group, it reeks of the six degrees of separation crap that conspiracy theorists say about great people like Zbig B.

Myself, I can't stand conspiracy theories.

the NRA would love it if Mike were not part of their solution

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:11 PM

2. Commission?

Translation" we all get a chance to look somber and thoughtful. Then someone works on a few bills for 3 years, then the bills don't actually get sent up because it's right before an election (cause it's always before an election) and then we talk about it again after the next "incident".

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Response to LynnTTT (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:15 PM

25. Oh yeah, that's what we need another Commission .. clueless clueless clueless

And this, is what is wrong with our leadership in Washington .. Fucking spineless assholes.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:19 PM

3. Another way to delay action. We don't need a

fucking commission, we need some politicians with balls.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:20 PM

4. OF COURSE they do. Another fine way to stall and evade responsibility

for doing something about our insane gun laws.

I live in Montgomery County, MD, the Land of Studies.

Whenever there's a sticky issue our county officials don't want to deal with, they throw a few hundred thousand dollars at it by ordering a long, slow, exhaustive study that takes several years and ends up stashed in some dusty back room, forgotten. And the problems continue.

Fuck studies. We need LAWS. Now.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:31 PM

6. Whenever you DON'T want to do something about something, you create a task force

or commission or blue ribbon panel. I work in local government and I see it all the time. We know what we need to do. We don't need to waste a year on a study, while another 3 or 4 or more of these massacres occur.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:39 PM

7. Senators

You need a commission on parenting.

How to develop integrity when raising kids.

If you don't examine that, you won't reject
the video games and movies, and you won't have
enough money to pay all the psychologists in the
world to treat the mentally unbalanced that the
current parenting system creates.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:43 PM

8. Screw the commission. We've had commission after commission, yet nothing gets done.

In the end enough congress critters who are paid by the NRA will block any useful legislation, and we'll still be right where we are now.

HOWEVER, even though we're pessimistic as hell we still need to call and email our congress critters and tell them to get off their asses and do something about this.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:54 PM

9. Here's your commission- Look at how you spend our tax dollars. DONE.

Mil-Spec health care instead of Mil-Spec bombs.

This is so much on my conscious that I dreamed I was in Vietnam last night, holding a hand grenade that was ready to go off. That's what this country is. Half a trillion per year for death, when we are still in the 60's technology when it comes to...wait for it...


EMOTIONAL WELLNESS.

This isn't "mental health" in the sense that Congress conjures up. This is a thing that affects every one of us. Not just a few ill people.

Damn. Am I the only one who sees this.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:59 PM

11. This will be a commission that will lead to nothing as usual.

They are trying to look concerned while actually doing nothing.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:06 PM

12. Commissions are a easier way out.

Senate and the house must meet on this now. Where the hell is Issa? Y'know think this could be up front and foremost, but NOOO, but harassing Amb Rice and investigating what seems to be the cause of congress who voted to limit money in protecting American ambassadors in the world. 4 patriotic Americans died. 26 patriotic Americans died because congress are cowards.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 01:45 PM

14. I want mass killers to have to reload after 8 shots.

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Response to roseBudd (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:26 PM

29. I want mass killers to have to consult a psychiatrist before purchasing ammunition.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 02:03 PM

15. Great-

First it's too soon to talk about it and now a commission to think about it. How many more will die while we're "thinking?"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:31 PM

19. Oh no. A commission or two.

Which means they'll all talk 'til they're blue in the face, they'll talk just to hear themselves talk, they'll call witnesses who'll talk talk talk. It'll all be talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk just like it always is and in the end not one goddamned thing will be done. And after the next mass shooting, lather, rinse, repeat.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:38 PM

20. Commissions are a cowards way out

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:13 PM

21. Why do you need a commission....

all they need are the experts from the US military to come in and ask if they are effective or not.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:34 PM

22. I look foreward to Lieberman introducing legislation on day one of the next congress.

oh, wait, never mind.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:43 PM

23. A Commission? A Commission? Are these fucking assholes serious?

A fucking Commission? To "scrutinize?"

God damn them.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 06:59 PM

24. a senate commission, but wait, aren't those generally counter productive?

Aren't senate commissions a tool of the GOP to impede real progress on any important issue?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:34 PM

26. Why do we need a Commission to examine mass killings?

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Response to zebrastripe (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:03 PM

27. To stall for time and let the issue die away!

Welcome to D.U. zebrastripe

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:05 PM

28. It's a safe bet the NRA will infiltrate

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:49 PM

30. Stall tactic. Action now. Commission later.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:27 AM

33. Nuts to Lieberman's stall. Go for Feinstein's actual bill to ban assault weapons!

My Senator Feinstein became Mayor on the day of a bloody assassination right in front of her. She and Sen. Schumer have been working on their bill for a year -- it's ready to go.

I have no faith in yet another commission to "reflect" in a "thoughtful way."

Hekate

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:20 PM

36. Well, they happen worldwide but at a much, much lower rate. The difference? THE NUMBER OF GUNS

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