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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:08 AM

Japan moves right as conservatives win big in polls

Source: AFP

TOKYO Japan's conservative opposition swept to victory in national polls Sunday, giving former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe a second chance to promote his hawkish security agenda and reflate the economy.

Voters decisively abandoned Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda three years after his Democratic Party of Japan (DPJ) promised a change from more than half a century of almost unbroken rule by the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP).

Abe, who spent the campaign pledging to bolster Japan's defences and stand up to China over disputed islands, secured a handsome majority for the LDP in the election for the powerful lower house of parliament, exit polls showed.

Abe, whose brief stint as premier in 2006-7 ended ignominiously, has also vowed to rectify the listless economy after years of deflation, made worse by a soaring currency that has squeezed exporters.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:15 AM

1. Good gawd. I thought they had enough problems.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:35 AM

2. On a scale of liberal to conservative = how close to our conservatives is this new leader?

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:37 AM

3. There is no relationship or comparison or mapping over

from Japanese "conservatives" to US "conservatives"

It is comparing apples and seagulls.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:30 PM

6. Agreed

Japanese mainstream conservatives bear no resemblance to the Tea Party or the Religious Right or any of the other nutcases we have here.

I'm not so sure about that Hashimoto guy from Osaka, though. He sounds like the Michelle Bachmann of Japan.

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:49 AM

4. "He also offered to boost spending on infrastructure"

"He also offered to boost spending on infrastructure at a time when much of the tsunami-wrecked northeast remains a shell of its former self."

Those conservatives don't look the same con-self-servatives...

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 12:06 PM

5. Does conservative mean extreme radical in Japan too?

 

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:47 PM

8. No, not extremely radical but pretty conservative

It will be Abe again as he was president awhile back.

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:48 PM

9. It means the people who were behind WWII.

They believe in racial purity which means denial that their ancestors came from Korea, among other things.

Scientific and genetic evidence indicates that the Asiatic Japanese primarily came from Korea and pushed out the Ainu, Japan's indigenous people. The Ainu look more like Slavic Russians than Asian and now live in small colonies in Hokkaido.

My wife is Japanese and was fascinated with how the right denied all kinds of evidence that clashed with their preferred ideological views.

So the specifics are different from American conservatives but the mindset is identical.



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Response to Kablooie (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:04 PM

10. You posted complete nonsense. It means nothing of the kind. nt

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:30 PM

11. Perhaps, info comes from my wife who used to be interested in this stuff.

Not so much recently.
She kind of shifted her interests to the North Korean insanity.

Though the right wing was responsible for WWII I accept that it wasn't appropriate to attribute today's right wing to those in charge back then.

I also know you live in Japan today so I will defer to your opinions as being more relevant than mine.

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:04 AM

12. no...

'conservative' pretty much anywhere else in the world bears no relationship whatsoever to the swivel-eyed loon-spuddery that Americans call 'conservative'.

in western Europe, Barak Obama (who i like...) would be on the right-centre wing of most of the centre-right parties, none of whom would be gun nuts, all would be pro-choice (to differing extents, but in philosphical terms they'd be pro-choice), pretty much all of them are pro Gay marriage, and pretty much all have some some form of taxpayer funded healthcare.

the politcal labels used in America have no revelence to what happens in the rest of the world, and Americans' (of all political flavours) assumption that the terms and ideologies they use are the same the world over is an unfortunate indication of how US centric, and to be frank, ignorant, many Americans are even when they are looking at the outside world.

its the serious version of 'the world series' - in which only American teams compete, but Americans haven't noticed that they are the only people who compete in'the world series'...

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Response to Bosonic (Original post)

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 07:45 PM

7. In two days we will find out who South Korea's new president will be

for the next 5 years. My wife says that the liberal candidate will win (which I hope happens), but I have a unsettling feeling the conservative candidate might win. I'm going to be pissed if it happens. Tomorrow is the last day of campaigning and it didn't drive me nuts like it did 5 years ago with the huge trucks blaring music outside my apartment building.

I'm crossing my fingers and toes.

(the current president is a conservative)

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