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Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:36 PM

Oklahoma HS student arrested for plotting massacre

Source: Salon


The arrest reportedly took place before the Newtown Conn. shooting

BY ALEX HALPERIN

Police arrested a high school student in Bartlesville, Okla. Friday for allegedly plotting a school massacre involving guns and bombs, the Tulsa World writes. Bail was set at $1 million.

The paper reports:

“Sammie tried to recruit other students to assist him with carrying out a plan to lure students into the school auditorium where he planned to begin shooting them after chaining the doors shut,” Bartlesville Police Lt. Kevin Ickleberry wrote in the affidavit, which was filed in Washington County District Court.

“He also told them that if the students assisting him did not do what they were supposed to do, he would not hesitate to kill them and/or himself.”

Police were notified of the plot Thursday afternoon by school administrators who had been told of the alleged plan by another student, the affidavit states. Chavez had told the students he would place bombs by the auditorium doors and that when police arrived, he would detonate them.



Read more: http://www.salon.com/2012/12/15/oklahoma_hs_student_arrested_for_plotting_massacre/

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:27 PM

1. Fortunate that they turned the copycat in. And he was cleansing the world of what?

And he was not even an adult but had access. I hope this country gets io some realization that this is not a video game, that there are no winners.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 01:57 PM

2. When we had freeway shootings in Ca.

People all of a sudden were very polite in their driving.

One small way to break the cycle is to make absolutely sure that bullying is not taking place in schools.

Take away one reason these killers have to be pissed off at the world.

While I don't believe bible verses should be in school, sorry Huck, I have no problem with teaching the Golden Rule.

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:17 PM

3. You don't have to worry about it as a bible verse.

The golden rule concept long predates the bible. It goes back to ancient Babylon, Confucius, ancient Egypt, several Greek philosophers, Buddhism and a host of others. It's philosophical concept has been one of the oldest in human history. It was borrowed by Christianity in later texts dating from about 200ACE, and the name "Golden Rule" was coined in the 1670's.

It's an ancient and beautiful, tried and proven philosophy.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:23 PM

4. thank you

I learned something new today.

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:05 PM

12. Bullying has nothing to do with these evil deeds.

Did those 20 babies at Sandy Hook Elementary School bully Adam Lanza? What about the 6 teachers and Adm's, did they bully him? Hell no, they didn't.

Did the nearly 150 people (including many babies) in a nursery school, bully Timothy McVeigh? Hell no, they didn't.

And these are just two of these mass murders, I mentioned here.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:33 PM

5. Well thanks a f***in lot to the Reagan administration for shutting down all those insane asylums!

We sure saved a lot of money to buy more nukes that we didn't need.

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Response to Crowman1979 (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:50 PM

6. stop this shit. those of you mindlessly demonizing the mentally ill

need to grab a fucking clue.

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Response to cali (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:01 PM

7. No one is demonizing the mentally ill, however

 

if a mentally ill person is deemed to be a danger to himself or society, others must be protected.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:08 PM

8. $1,000,000 bail

Indicates they are taking this very seriously.


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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 07:59 PM

13. +1000

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:14 PM

9. Is Salon trying to profit from hysteria? The story clearly

says that "Chavez had acquired a Colt .45 pistol," and later that he was searching for another kind, Yet they top the story with a picture of three rifles that have nothing to do with the case, with no information at all that says he had even one. The Tulsa World story had roughly the same info without the pics, at least in my browser.

But they do resemble the one's allegedly used in CT. Are they hoping to provoke another, or just make some money off of dead and dying children by introducing phony and emotional information, pictures of the type used in the shooting later?

While I realize sensationalism sells, maybe part of the reason we can't stop this is because media outlets are speaking out of both sides of their face, making money in either direction.

Bartlesville (a place the spell checker is apparently not aware of) is a nice little town, built with old oil money. My dad lived there during the Depression years, and since his dad was a viciously mean drunk, he often went to sleep in the sand traps at the old golf course to stay out of range.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:59 PM

10. I don't know why we don't blame the parents more.

Such blatant lack of empathy and disregard for human life is either taught, or, if not taught, should be obvious to parents who choose willful blindness instead. Licenses for parents would clear up lots of these problems with violence.

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Response to OrwellwasRight (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:02 PM

14. Orwell may have been right but he wasn't writing an instruction manual

Licenses for parents sound straight out of 1984.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:17 PM

15. I never said he was.

And yes, I am the first person in the history of DU to have made that comment about licenses for parents. You don't recognize hyperbole when you see it?

PS That never would have been a feature of Oceania. In Oceania, Big Brother and the Party were far more important to raising you than were your parents. Their failure would not have impacted you at all. Here in the US of 2012, with our nuclear families, if your parents screw up at raising you, there is a pretty good chance you won't have enough interaction with other adults to be properly socialized. You may be doomed.

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Response to OrwellwasRight (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:01 PM

16. I've learned not to take too much for granted

I thought it might be snark but I've seen far dumber things said in all seriousness here on DU.

Children still lived with their parents in Oceania, that's why they were busy spying on them.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:12 PM

17. Yes, they lived with perents, but there was no need for parent licensing.

Big Brother and the Party controlled the children's thoughts. So the quality of the parenting was totally irrelevant. No need for good parents because the Party was there to indoctrinate the kids. And the kids could be relied upon to turn in any parents guilty of unorthodoxy.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:33 PM

11. Crazy kids couldn't do this if guns weren't so readily available. nt

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