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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:09 PM

Most Governors Refuse to Set Up Health Exchanges

Source: NYT

The Obama administration said Friday that more than half the states had rejected its pleas to set up their own health insurance exchanges, dealing a setback to President Obama’s hopes that Republicans would join a White House campaign to provide health insurance to all Americans.

Friday was the deadline for states to notify the federal government of their plans, and administration officials had been hoping that Mr. Obama’s re-election would overcome resistance to the new health care law.

Federal officials said they knew of 17 states that intended to run their own exchanges, as Congress intended.

Two of those states, New York and Kentucky, won conditional federal approval on Friday for their plans to create and run state-based exchanges. Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, also approved an application from the District of Columbia.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/us/most-states-miss-deadline-to-set-up-health-exchanges.html

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Reply Most Governors Refuse to Set Up Health Exchanges (Original post)
alp227 Dec 2012 OP
Flatpicker Dec 2012 #1
patrice Dec 2012 #5
LynneSin Dec 2012 #7
patrice Dec 2012 #2
dkf Dec 2012 #3
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #4
midnight Dec 2012 #10
ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #12
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #22
KatyMan Dec 2012 #24
Skittles Dec 2012 #6
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #23
JDPriestly Dec 2012 #8
msongs Dec 2012 #9
JDPriestly Dec 2012 #15
BadgerKid Dec 2012 #26
underpants Dec 2012 #28
markpkessinger Dec 2012 #11
Cha Dec 2012 #17
Kennah Dec 2012 #13
TomCADem Dec 2012 #14
jmowreader Dec 2012 #19
HawkeyeLibkid Dec 2012 #16
Cha Dec 2012 #18
jwirr Dec 2012 #20
NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #21
Brigid Dec 2012 #25
donco Dec 2012 #27

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:12 PM

1. That's ok in the long game

Towards Single Payer.

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Response to Flatpicker (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:17 PM

5. Actually it could do that, because the HEW exchanges will have bigger pools, ergo more pricing &

services covered options.

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Response to Flatpicker (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:33 PM

7. that's what I'm thinking

I was reading the article about Corbett rejecting it and first thing I thought is that thanks to people like Corbett - in 10 years we'll have single payer.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:12 PM

2. They'll still get health care insurance exchanges, just that those exchanges will be designed by

HEW and the states themselves will have less say in what their exchange is like.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:13 PM

3. Maybe all states should have declined then we could have set up a federal system.

 

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:15 PM

4. Maybe in the long run this is better? I trust the Federal gov. more to set this up than TPTB

in my teabagger state.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:11 AM

10. I feel the same way about our Wis. Gov.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:33 AM

12. I am with you on this

I never understood the state exchanges and tend to think the Feds will do better than some of the states would.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:41 AM

22. To me, there should be consistently from state to state and it would seem having

the Feds do it would ensure consistency.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:55 AM

24. Agreed

trust the feds more than Goodhair

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:19 PM

6. but I bet those bastards support the NRA

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Response to Skittles (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:43 AM

23. They love them there guns here. Can't be a man without a big gun!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:43 PM

8. California has a website devoted to its healthcare exchange.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:33 PM

9. that page needs a summary description of the exchange and what it actually does, including

services. it is not that useful as published

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Response to msongs (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:25 AM

15. I suspect that they are in the process of setting up the exchange. Don't know that for a fact.

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Response to msongs (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:58 AM

26. I imagine it would include a policy search

akin to what people can do on the Medicare web site. Just a guess, though.

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Response to msongs (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:54 AM

28. The exchanges will work like Travelocity or Priceline type websites

you enter in your info (age, sex, smoker?, weight, zip code, etc.) and the site gives you the insurance plans that are available to you. You then decide which to go with.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:28 AM

11. "... President Obama’s hopes that Republicans would join a White House campaign ..." Seriously?

". . . dealing a setback to President Obama’s hopes that Republicans would join a White House campaign to provide health insurance to all Americans."


I really, sincerely hope that was a bit of editorializing on the part of the NY Times, because if it wasn't, and the President really was banking on such hope, it is inexcusably naive.

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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:19 AM

17. Oh good grief.. PBO had hoped but that doesn't mean

he thought they would. What was he was suppose to say?.. That he knew they were too fucking determined to not help their citizens out to implement OBAMACARE?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:45 AM

13. Having both a federal exchange and a number of state exchanges is a good thing

We will get to see a live experiment as to whether a federally healthcare program, like the UK NHS, or something mandated by a future federal law but run by the state, a bit more like Switzerland though not entirely, would work better.

Here in Washington, we are doing our part leading the charge to build an exchange. It's all good. Just part of the experiment for a future universal healthcare law.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:47 AM

14. "Gun Owners of America Claims Obamacare will "Take Away Your Guns"

The right wing has been pendaling the idea that Obamacare is a means of gun control.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/gun-owners-america-claims-obamacare-will-take-away-your-guns

Larry Pratt, head of the Religious Right group 'Gun Owners of America,' recently appeared on VCY America’s Crosstalk radio show where he claimed that Obamacare would be used by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to take away guns from law-abiding Americans, reports RightWingWatch.org.

Pratt said: "(Obamacare) says that all of our medical records are available to be pawed through by bureaucrats somewhere in Washington, looking for a reason to disenfranchise gun owners, to say: ‘Oh you have a medical diagnosis that means you might be a danger to yourself or others so we’re going to come and knock on the door for the BATF to take away your guns.’"

There is a law that screens out people, such as the mentally ill, through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System to prevent them from purchasing guns. However, this law was signed by President Bush.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 06:14 AM

19. I can think of two people who need their guns taken away

Larry Pratt and Wayne LaPierre have this weird delusion that lets them see everything the president does as a reason to take away your guns. This makes themself a danger to themselves and others, mandating the government take away not only their guns but also their microphones.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 03:27 AM

16. Yep

At least my Republican Governor Terry Branstad is smart enough to know what to do. He's not my favorite guy by any means, but he's got something right here.

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Response to HawkeyeLibkid (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 05:20 AM

18. Where's that? And Welcome to DU,

HawkeyeLibkid

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 09:55 AM

20. This is nothing more than wanting the feds to do it for them because that is the way it will be.

Then they can set back and either take credit for success when it works or blame the feds if it fails. Cowards.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:23 AM

21. Then the federal government will do it.

How stupid of these governors.

When the Feds come in and set it up themselves, these same people will scream and shout about big-government's "intrusion" into the affairs of states -- even though they had the opportunity to do this themselves at the state level.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:55 AM

25. And IN is another one.

I don't want to hear any whining from that idiot Pence when the Feds do it for him.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:01 AM

27. I thought that

the repugs were all for insurance plans that crossed state lines.Go figure.

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