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President Obama Delivers a Statement (3:15 p.m. White House live) (Original Post) TrogL Dec 2012 OP
Is he sure this is the day to talk about it? valerief Dec 2012 #1
Har de har har Richardo Dec 2012 #2
In the 'Brady Press Room.' nt onehandle Dec 2012 #3
Irony noted. nt valerief Dec 2012 #4
I though we are not "talking" about this. Safetykitten Dec 2012 #5
"lowered the flag out of respect" ... how 'bout reforms gun policy out of respect? Myrina Dec 2012 #6
+1 forestpath Dec 2012 #8
He is choking up. mainer Dec 2012 #7
Is it running? I'm not getting anything. TrogL Dec 2012 #11
I fully support Obama not making this political about guns - TODAY LynneSin Dec 2012 #9
exactly bluemarkers Dec 2012 #10
just watched his response Euphoria Dec 2012 #12
Gotta throw in with Lynne on this. blm Dec 2012 #13
Agreed, 100% democrattotheend Dec 2012 #14
+1 Liberalynn Dec 2012 #15
More than laws... Myrina Dec 2012 #16
Nicely put, Lynne. Richardo Dec 2012 #18
Tearing Tanta Dec 2012 #17
 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
5. I though we are not "talking" about this.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:14 PM
Dec 2012

But I guess he could say...or will say.

"Well, we all know what happened, and I will round up the usual gang and discuss this and get back to you..."

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
6. "lowered the flag out of respect" ... how 'bout reforms gun policy out of respect?
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:17 PM
Dec 2012

Children should not have to be locked, barricaded, metal-detected into school!!
We create a safe environment by teaching our youngsters how to negotiate with words not weapons.
How to accept being told 'no' or the occassional defeat/disappointment without needing to blow shit up.

Call of Duty and Special Ops (I'm not blaming video games on a whole but these 2 are ludicrous) and the proliferation of weapons and the cheapening of 'everyone else's opinion' makes it too damn easy for desensitized shit like this to happen.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
9. I fully support Obama not making this political about guns - TODAY
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:20 PM
Dec 2012

It's no different then when Romney decided to make Benghazi about politics soon after it happened.

Families of the victims don't want to feel like political pawns on the day they lose a loved one.

But I do hope that within a week someone points out that this problem comes down to lax gun laws in this country!

Euphoria

(448 posts)
12. just watched his response
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:25 PM
Dec 2012

and I agree with you LynneSin. About supporting Obama's decision to not make today the day to get political.

Right now let's sit, ponder, reflect, hug, feel.

And immediately after "right now"....let's get a solution to this, in honor and memory of all our loved ones.

This must stop. And we need to stop it.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
14. Agreed, 100%
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:29 PM
Dec 2012

I hope that this tragedy will lead to an increased push for gun control, but I respect the president's decision not to talk specifically about gun control so soon after it happened. I thought his statement struck the right note in that regard. But I hope he will push for it in the coming days and weeks.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
16. More than laws...
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:36 PM
Dec 2012

Just in the past few months ...

an idiot shoots a kid in FLA because he "wouldn't turn down his car stereo"

an idiot in Indianapolis, Tuesday, shoots his mother because "they argued about him not taking out the trash"

not to mention the mall shooting in Portland, OR and the other, earlier ones this year ...

... all basically stemming from people with a REALLY fucked up sense of "I don't like what you said so I Can Shoot You"

Therein lies the problem, IMHO.

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