Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:33 AM

ellisonz (26,318 posts)

China says overseas Tibet 'forces' distort truth

By GILLIAN WONG | Associated Press – 1 hr 10 mins ago

BEIJING (AP) — China says overseas groups are distorting the truth about a clash between Tibetans and police in a politically sensitive region to discredit the Chinese government.

The official Xinhua News Agency cited a Foreign Ministry spokesman as saying Tuesday that one Tibetan was killed and four others injured during Monday's clash in Luhuo county in southwest China. Hong Lei says order has been restored in the region and that the authorities will act firmly to fight crime.

A Little More: http://news.yahoo.com/china-says-overseas-tibet-forces-distort-truth-082237934.html

Does anyone here believe anything the PRC says about human rights?

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6 replies	Author	Time	Post
China says overseas Tibet 'forces' distort truth (Original post)	ellisonz	Jan 2012	OP
Tibetans fearful as China ups security after unrest	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#1
China will never, ever, E V E R give up Tibet	AlecBGreen	Jan 2012	#2
Have you been to Tibet?	VKaz	Jan 2012	#3
And when did you go to Tibet...	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#4
+1	TigerToMany	Jan 2012	#6
Tibetan shooting comes on heels of human rights criticism	ellisonz	Jan 2012	#5

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:35 AM

ellisonz (26,318 posts)

1. Tibetans fearful as China ups security after unrest

By Marianne Barriaux | AFP – 2 hrs 35 mins ago

Tibetan monks in a Chinese region rocked by a deadly protest said Tuesday they were too afraid to leave their monastery where injured people had taken refuge, as hundreds of armed forces patrolled outside.

The increased security comes after police opened fire on Tibetan protesters and as authorities sealed off another Tibetan-inhabited area also rocked by a demonstration, locals and the London-based Free Tibet campaign group said.

Both protests took place in the southwestern province of Sichuan -- which has large populations of ethnic Tibetans, many of whom complain of a lack of religious freedom -- and where unrest has been on the rise over the past year.

In one of the protests Monday, rights groups and locals said at least one person died and more than 30 others were injured when police opened fire on unarmed Tibetans protesting in Sichuan's Luhuo county.

http://news.yahoo.com/tibetans-fearful-china-ups-security-unrest-044643009.html

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:31 AM

AlecBGreen (3,872 posts)

2. China will never, ever, E V E R give up Tibet

Im not saying the people shouldnt protest, but they should know that as long as the PRC gov't is in power, Tibet will be an occupied state. Thats just the way its going to be.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 02:02 PM

VKaz (12 posts)

3. Have you been to Tibet?

I've been to Tibet and it's not as bad as some activists or the hard-core supporters of Tibetan independence say. At the same time, there are also issues to be resolved, and it's not as good as the Chinese government tries to sugar coat it either. The truth is in between.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 03:05 PM

ellisonz (26,318 posts)

4. And when did you go to Tibet...

...oh mister 3 posts. And what are your credentials for monitoring human rights? Are the objective, experienced observers who disagree with you wrong? How "not as bad" is acceptable in your book?

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 11:39 PM

TigerToMany (124 posts)

6. +1

Ironic how Chinese propagandists swarm on any news items that dare to expose China for what it is - a fascist country run by a select few with an active program of cultural genocide and repression. Sad that we know more about their country than they do. I have been to Tibet myself and I have seen what the chinese are doing. There is no "economic development", only colonization, and hence exploitation of the Tibetan people, resources, and means of production.

I saw chinese stormtroopers bust into my hotel at 3AM where a monk was staying and drag him out after beating the bejeezus out of him for no reason. I've seen the cops in Tibet beat up on 7 year old kids just for speaking Tibetan in public.

Anyone who goes to Tibet and does not see oppression is not looking with objective eyes and cannot really be trusted to tell us about the facts on the ground. But it's not like you need to go to Tibet to understand that there's persecution. Just like you don't need to go to Germany to know that the Holocaust happened you don't need to go to Tibet to understand that it is an occupied country and a genocide is taking place.

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Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:52 PM

ellisonz (26,318 posts)

5. Tibetan shooting comes on heels of human rights criticism

Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:52 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

January 24, 2012 | 10:51 am
-- Emily Alpert in Los Angeles

Chinese security forces opened fire on Tibetan protesters Monday, killing at least one person, Tibetan activists have reported to the Los Angeles Times. The news comes on the heels of the annual Human Rights Watch report, which criticized China for repression in ethnic minority areas such as Tibet:

The situation in the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) and the neighboring Tibetan autonomous areas of Qinghai, Sichuan, Gansu, and Yunnan province, remained tense in 2011 following the massive crackdown on popular protests that swept the plateau in 2008. Chinese security forces maintain a heavy presence and the authorities continue to tightly restrict access and travel to Tibetan areas, particularly for journalists and foreign visitors. Tibetans suspected of being critical of political, religious, cultural or economic state policies are targeted on charges of “separatism.”

The government continues to build a “new socialist countryside” by relocating and rehousing up to 80% of the TAR population, including all pastoralists and nomads.

The Chinese government has given no indication it would accommodate the aspirations of Tibetan people for greater autonomy, even within the narrow confines of the country’s autonomy law on ethnic minorities’ areas. It has rejected holding negotiations with the new elected leader of the Tibetan community in exile, Lobsang Sangay, and warned that it would designate the next Dalai Lama itself.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/01/tibetan-shooting-human-rights-criticism.html

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