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Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:01 AM

Michigan House repeals personal property tax

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Source: Detroit Free Press

Michigan House repeals personal property tax
10:40 PM, December 13, 2012
By Kathleen Gray
Free Press Lansing Bureau

LANSING — The personal property tax was repealed Thursday night by the state House of Representatives, giving businesses a $590 million a year tax break.

The bill passed 57-52, a one-vote cushion because bills need 56 votes to pass. The personal property tax, or PPT, is levied against industrial and commercial equipment and furniture. It would begin to be phased out over 10 years beginning in 2013.

There’s widespread agreement that the tax should be eliminated, but local communities fear the loss of the revenue that helps them pay their bills.

“These series of bills are going to impact our communities and there’s no escaping it,” said state Rep. Harold Haugh, D-Roseville.

The Michigan Municipal League and Michigan Association of Counties both oppose the bill because it doesn’t provide for 100% of replacement of the revenues to local communities.


Read more: http://www.freep.com/article/20121213/NEWS06/121213086/Michigan-personal-property-tax-repeal-House-of-Representatives?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE



This is exactly what happens when voters elect folks who do not believe in government to run government!

It's been a Teabagger orgy in Lansing all this week during the lame duck session. These folks are fucking nuts!

It's like the Energizer Bunny on meth.

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:06 AM

1. Taxes

I see no mention of an exemption for home owners.

Does this only apply to businesses ?

If that is the case, this is insanity !!!

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:28 AM

2. Taxes 2

I understand now.

The title confused me.

When I hear the phrase personal property I think of homes and land.

This is for business equipment and furniture.

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:51 AM

10. Yeah, the inclusion of the word *personal*

implies that it is a tax on non-commercial property held by individuals, and not companies

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 01:32 AM

3. How did these nutbags get elected?? I thought MI was blue....

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:35 AM

6. Horrible - horrible - turnout in 2010 among Democrats (nt)

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Response to UrbScotty (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:23 AM

16. Us Democrats need to get it through our heads that this is indeed a war against the middle class

and if we do not show up we lose.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:36 AM

7. It Is Part Of The 2010 Debacle

And underscores the major differences between the two parties. Elections matter. We will have to live with some of this for 10 years to because of Gerrymandering of districts establish by these same politicians doing this lame duck damage.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:30 AM

17. Perhaps that needs to be the subject of a criminal investigation

in retrospect. I'm very curious myself about the legitimacy of the Tea Party sweep. Were their elections rigged?

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:22 AM

4. I'm encouraged after seeing Michael Moore on Ed Show

He is pissed and not going to take it anymore!! Apparently in recruiting a candidate to run against Snyder and his cabal in the legislature in 2 years. Good on him. Perhaps this law will be undone next year. We will see.

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:44 AM

9. I've NEVER seen Michael Moore more animated or passionate

...he was on fire, wasn't he? He was on Jennifer Granholm's show last night on Current, and at the first of the interview he was almost, if not, in tears, but ended up positive and on fire at the end of it. Yeah, tonight's appearance on Ed showed a big uptick in passion since last night. It's not nice to make Michael Moore mad. Yeah, Michael is going to be a force for Snyder & his buddies in the Sate of Michigan to reckon with over the next two years.
Go Michael!

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:32 AM

5. Some States Limit Scope Of Lame Duck Sessions

Those that limit either specify an emergency must exist, which is pretty soft, and some limit the session to individual bill(s) that have to be quantified before the session opens. Michigan is an example of why these changes have been put in place by these States.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:38 AM

8. And in some places, there is no such thing as a 'lame-duck' session

of a legislative body, such as Parliament.

In most parliamentary systems, the parliament is dissolved until the election, and the newly elected members take office right away. Generally, the Prime Minister of Great Britain takes office the day after an election.

Likewise, in my hometown, newly elected city commissioners are sworn in the meeting after their election.

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Response to UrbScotty (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:24 AM

12. The 'new' city council

members where I live were sworn in on December 3. (We now have a Democratic majority). I see no reason to wait until the 'new year'.

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 03:10 AM

11. I want to say that

the people of Michigan deserve this, but I know from watching Rachel Maddow last night that more Michiganders voted for Democrats than voted for Republicans. Thanks to redistricting, all of the people of Michigan got screwed.

But certainly, every single person not in the top 1% who voted for a Republican deserves this.

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 06:38 AM

13. FINALLY! Now I can hang the Monet in my powder room. nt

 

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:28 AM

14. WTH!?

I hope all of these shitty laws get overturned.

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 08:37 AM

15. Wrong. It's a corporate property tax. n/t

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:32 AM

18. And how are they going to plug

the half billion dollar hole they just blew in the budget?

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:47 AM

19. And with the freshly minted "Emergency Manager Law" on the books...

Sounds like they are prepping for a complete corporate takeover of the state.

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Response to Bozita (Original post)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:12 AM

20. It's a badly named tax -- it's not about personal property at all

" The personal property tax, or PPT, is levied against industrial and commercial equipment and furniture. It would begin to be phased out over 10 years beginning in 2013."

It was a tax on office furniture and equipment. I do think it's a discouragement to businesses who want to invest in new equipment. Imagine having to pay extra taxes on new computers for your office. Or because you get new chairs for your employees.

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