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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:43 PM Dec 2012

New Villian Emerges In AFP Tent-Gate: Guy Fawkes-Masked 'Radical Anarchists'

Source: Tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com

The tale of the Michigan AFP Tent just got a lot more interesting. A spokesperson for conservative group Americans For Prosperity told TPM on Thursday the tent’s collapse this week during protests outside the state capitol may have been instigated not by union protesters — some of whom were "helping us" after the tent collapse, she said — but rather by "radical anarchists" wearing Guy Fawkes masks and coming from the Occupy movement.

Spokesperson Annie Patnaude also alleged some of the protesters threatened to blow up propane tanks inside the tent, potentially creating a deadly conflagration. Meanwhile union supporters continued to say the tent was felled by AFP members themselves, a charge Patnaude called "upsetting."

At a press conference on Thursday afternoon in Lansing, Mich., AFP called on the mayor and police to open an investigation into the tent collapse and the events surrounding it.

A spokesman for the Lansing Police Department referred questions to the Michigan State Police, who are in charge of policing the state capital grounds. A spokesman for the state police, Inspector Gene Adamczyk, told TPM on Thursday afternoon that no official complaints had been filed regarding the tent collapse. If any are filed, he said, the agency will investigate.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/afp-tent-guy-fawkes.php?ref=fpa





Next it'll be undocumented aliens.
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New Villian Emerges In AFP Tent-Gate: Guy Fawkes-Masked 'Radical Anarchists' (Original Post) meegbear Dec 2012 OP
I believe him. I also believe the same said 'Radical Anarchists' are on their payroll Brother Buzz Dec 2012 #1
Must have been God's will. Downwinder Dec 2012 #2
Cue the GOP rent a mob... Politicub Dec 2012 #3
"Radical Anarchists" ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #4
isn't the AFP, in fact, a radical anarchist group? olddad56 Dec 2012 #23
Americans For Prosperity? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #27
someone didn't get the memo CitizenPatriot Dec 2012 #5
They did blame them... meegbear Dec 2012 #6
If that is true, someone will have photos of people in those JDPriestly Dec 2012 #8
There is one on a video winterwar Dec 2012 #19
Do you have a link? creeksneakers2 Dec 2012 #20
I guess that was a no link CitizenPatriot Dec 2012 #26
Who cares? it was a tent FreeBC Dec 2012 #7
Bigfoot? A Yeti? Loch Ness monster? Roland99 Dec 2012 #9
Not only Bigfoot, a Yeti, or the Loch Ness Monster ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #11
anarchists! i knew it was them! even when it was the bears.. frylock Dec 2012 #10
It's always us. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #12
You guys are BUSY! Union Scribe Dec 2012 #13
Masked, huh? How conveeenient. tanyev Dec 2012 #14
I am ready to see the truth winterwar Dec 2012 #15
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #16
video winterwar Dec 2012 #17
Another video winterwar Dec 2012 #18
Typical Steven Crowder douchebaggery HawkeyeLibkid Dec 2012 #21
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #22
Translation: "We still don't know how to put up a tent properly" struggle4progress Dec 2012 #24
VIDEO - Short clip of tent falling Cal Carpenter Dec 2012 #25

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
4. "Radical Anarchists" ...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:59 PM
Dec 2012

LOL

Why are they investigating a tent collapsing? What about Occupy's tents? No one investigated that; oh, because it was the police doing the collapsing.

Fuck AFP.

CitizenPatriot

(3,783 posts)
5. someone didn't get the memo
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:05 PM
Dec 2012

cuz you're supposed to blame "union thugs" not masked cartoon characters from under the conservative bed.

Note: the union members were helping them fix the tent. Expect Fox to ignore that part.

meegbear

(25,438 posts)
6. They did blame them...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:17 PM
Dec 2012

but when it came to light they were helping, they changed it to this.

Now you'd THINK, especially with faux news there going for blood, they would have noticed and reported people wearing Guy Fawkes masks.

Funny and sad at the same time.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. If that is true, someone will have photos of people in those
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:37 PM
Dec 2012

masks around the tent. Nowadays, people are constantly taking pictures. Anyone in a Guy Fawkes mask would be interesting enough to amateur photographers.

winterwar

(210 posts)
19. There is one on a video
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:18 PM
Dec 2012

He looks like he might loosen a couple tent straps and walk away. Nothing conslusive though.

CitizenPatriot

(3,783 posts)
26. I guess that was a no link
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:13 PM
Dec 2012

Good question. I'm still waiting.

I love it when they keep changing their story from violent union thugs to the devil to guy hawkes masks. Next they'll blame Obama.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
9. Bigfoot? A Yeti? Loch Ness monster?
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:42 PM
Dec 2012

I'd believe any one of those three over any excuse from the Repukes

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
11. Not only Bigfoot, a Yeti, or the Loch Ness Monster ...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:53 PM
Dec 2012

but, a radical Bigfoot, a radical Yeti, and a radical Loch Ness Monster.

Makes it that much more frightening!

winterwar

(210 posts)
15. I am ready to see the truth
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:26 PM
Dec 2012

I just joined DU after years and hundreds of hours of enjoyment. I have been inspired by the Right to Work For Less bill passed in my state. I am trying to piece together a clearer picture of the "tent collapse" incident. I have seen several videos in the past days, and it appears some of the people loosening the tent straps were arguing AGAINST the union guys in other videos. One reliable and unedited video is on WILX.com the local NBC station here. It also shows union guys getting smashed by state troopers with batons, something no one is reporting. Several Youtube videos from tea party people have been removed that showed some of the aggresive behavior on their side as well. I also notice a lot of choppy, heavily edited videos from tea party people have been posted. I am going to see if I can make a list of who's who based on their clothing and make a timeline for the events and i.d. the players. Anybody who has some free time or cares to help please leave any info you come up with. I feel that this whole thing was a "ACORN" style set-up.

To be clear, I was there and I am a very liberal, pro-union guy. Most of my family as well as my wife's are pro-union. I arrived after the tent was on the ground, but I felt positive energy from the workers there. I heard Jesse Jackson and Virg Bernero give great speeches blocks from my house. I know a handful of people were angry and cursing. And on some of the videos you see some unflattering behavior from some of the union guys there. I understand but don't condone some of what happened. But I know the 99 percent keeps taking blows. And for some of these guys it is the last straw.

But to be provoked by speakers blaring Ronald Reagan in your face and tea party scum (professional victims) it was a ticking timebomb. From my understand Dick DeVos (Amway, LOSER in MI 06 Gov race) rented the tent for the lawn and offered $25 dollar gas cards and free food and drink for those in the tent. I also wonder how DeVos knew to rent a tent on this day and when he applied for the permit. The bill was brought up and passed within days. And for only 3 arrests made, think of the probability. I see three arrested at every 12,000 person concert I have ever attended, sometimes more.

I stood on that same lawn in April '10 to protest the tea party at the capitol. When I came chanting "America love it or leave it", I saw plenty of swearing, name calling, posturing and screaming. I had a guy blowing cigarette smoke in my face over and over until I let him know that I was going to kick his ass. I'm talking two feet from me directly in my face. A couple losers were there making fun of my father because he had a kidney transplant. After some crazy rednecks grabbed my dad from behind I let them know he was prone to infection and to leave their hands to themselves. That opened the personal attacks on his health. "Awwwww, you got a kidney, awwwwww", childish stuff. My pops died 5 months later. He was an Operating Engineer for over thirty years with great health insurance. He was just there because he feels we all deserve health coverage. They called us unemployed, freeloaders, mooches, the usual. But after it happend, I never went to media crying. There were cameras three inches from my face for two hours and people calling me idiot, moron, and communist. Funny they don't post their own loudmouths on Youtube.

But back to the point, this lie has traveled around the world twice and I think may be easy to disprove. I'm on a mission, and any help or input from you awesome liberals would be appreciated. I am so glad this site is here. I am glad I finally decided to connect with others here instead of just going to protests.

Sorry to ramble, just had to break it all down-

winterwar

(210 posts)
17. video
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:41 PM
Dec 2012

Here is a link to a video of the inside of the tent right before it fell. I see no women, children or handicap people in the tent as many right wingers have claimed.

winterwar

(210 posts)
18. Another video
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:06 PM
Dec 2012

This shows AFP people talking about the tent coming down and remaining in the tent for several minutes anyway. They talk about how they knew it was going to happen before it even started. Almost like it was a goal.


HawkeyeLibkid

(76 posts)
21. Typical Steven Crowder douchebaggery
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:58 AM
Dec 2012

I asked a few people, would you put up a KKK Tent outside of a Lil' Wayne Concert and expect no violence?

Sean Hannity sent his boyfriend in to get a rise out of the vulnerable Union crowd. He wasn't going to leave until he got punched. This is re-affirmed when he says "come forward, go to jail or fight me". What kind of douchebag says something like that? I hope some more light is shed on this in the next couple of days and Fox, AFP and Coward are exposed. It won't help though, the Fox crowd isn't generally in the double digit IQ range.

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