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Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:18 AM

No progress in "fiscal cliff" talks as new poll hits Republicans

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Source: Reuters

Sharp differences remained on Wednesday between congressional Republicans and the White House in talks to avert the "fiscal cliff" of steep tax hikes and budget cuts, and negotiators warned the showdown could drag on past Christmas.

A Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll released late on Wednesday, however, held the potential to shake up the stalemate. Three-quarters of those surveyed, including 61 percent of Republicans, said they would accept raising taxes on the wealthy to avoid the so-called cliff, as Democratic President Barack Obama is demanding.

With Republicans in Congress already divided, that rejection by their own supporters of the core demand of Republican House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner could further weaken his position.

Both sides refused to give any ground in public, one day after what Boehner described as a "frank" conversation with President Barack Obama about the remaining hurdles to a deal.



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Poll: Strike a Cliff Deal Now
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324296604578175613828863492.html

Poll: Nearly 60 Percent Of Republicans Want GOP To Compromise In Fiscal Cliff Deal
Fifty-nine percent of Republicans want GOP leaders in the House and Senate to compromise to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff, according to a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released Wednesday. In April, just 38 percent backed such a compromise

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/poll-nearly-60-percent-of-republicans-want-gop

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Reply No progress in "fiscal cliff" talks as new poll hits Republicans (Original post)
cal04 Dec 2012 OP
fasttense Dec 2012 #1
demwing Dec 2012 #4
demwing Dec 2012 #8
Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #14
Ferretherder Dec 2012 #2
dchill Dec 2012 #5
dchill Dec 2012 #3
DCKit Dec 2012 #6
John2 Dec 2012 #10
another_liberal Dec 2012 #13
Scuba Dec 2012 #7
bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #9
mac56 Dec 2012 #12
another_liberal Dec 2012 #11
bemildred Dec 2012 #15

Response to cal04 (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:21 AM

1. I would like to hit those RepubliCONS with some POLES.

Maybe they would cooperate better if you hit them with a few poles.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:37 AM

4. you would think the recent losses to Obama

And in the House and Senate would have provided the poll you're hoping for, but nope!

I say let them go on as if they had leverage. Nothing improves our position quite like Republican ignorance of their own weakness.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:51 AM

8. and yes I get the pole pun :)

I just don't think you can beat the "stupid" off of these dorks with a pole.

You'll need something with more heft...like a Buick.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 09:41 AM

14. Most of the Poles I know

would probably resent that.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:26 AM

2. My own advice on this matter is...

...STAND YER' GROUND, REPUGS,...STAND YER' GROUND!!!!

PLEASE, stand your ground until the general public FINALLY sees who you REALLY represent in Washington and decides to send you and your party to the dust-bin of history.

Go ahead, make our day!

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Response to Ferretherder (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:40 AM

5. +1, with a cringe...

And my fingers crossed. I don't think Social Security and Medicare can survive the kind of "compromise" that even some Democrats are advocating. And I'm sure their recipients won't survive very well.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:36 AM

3. I truly shudder to think...

what would be the "conventional wisdom" as to what would be considered "progress" in the Fiscal Bluff talks.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:47 AM

6. NBC Nightly Nooz was spinning this as "70% of (D)s want the (D)s to compromise".

 

I guess 70% of (D)s don't know what's in their own best interest or that we just won an election. Well either that, or it's an NBC/WSJ poll.

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Response to DCKit (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:05 AM

10. Well,

 

this is interesting, coming from the same organization's editorial board that advocated Republican's not to fold, if Obama doesn't give significant cuts in entitlements. Just who are their subscribers,and didn't Krystol just crticize them before that Poll? It is interesting they came out with a Poll supporting their views.

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Response to DCKit (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:39 AM

13. I wonder how that polling question was worded?

Did that polling question ask what kind of a compromise Democrats wanted? Everyone says they want compromise, but to the Republicans that means the President caves on cutting entitlements to the bone. I seriously doubt if that is what many Democrats mean by "compromise."

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:48 AM

7. Rusty Boner doesn't care about the People. He's only loyal to a handful of billionaires who run him.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:58 AM

9. Nothing has changed for the GOP

and nothing will. They'll just dig in harder and deeper.

They're posturing for the 2014 midterms already

If Boehner caves, he'll lose the Speakership to a Tea Pottier.

If Boehner stands pat, he'll lose in the polls, and get 2/3 of the
blame for going over the Fiscal Cliff.

If the economy improves just a wee bit and steadily, 2014 will see
Democrats gain 25 seats in the House.

But first, the Tea Party radicals will be allowed to make a display of
themselves.

And the GOP will try to blend all their inconsistent ideas into
a consensus that is appealing to the mainstream.

And the GOP will fail.

I marvel at the divided government the Founding Fathers
gave us. They really did study history, they knew human
nature, they had fled religious and political dictatorships.
Their system is still working.

Now if we could just get some relief at the polls on the
state level.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:36 AM

12. this

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 08:33 AM

11. President Obama is clearly winning . . .

President Obama is clearly winning this one big time. Even Republicans support raising taxes on the wealthiest of Americans, and by a majority of sixty percent! All that is left to see is how many top Republicans, such as Representative Cantor, are so deeply in the pockets of the Koch brothers that they would rather be defeated in 2014 than displease their masters.

This is going to be a very merry Holiday Season for liberals.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:26 AM

15. Hi ho, hi ho, it's off the cliff we go ... nt

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