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Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:20 PM

Pelosi scolds Boehner: ‘Figure it out!’

Source: MSNBC

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi doesn’t have much sympathy for her successor’s predicament. “Figure it out,” she scolded Speaker John Boehner about dealing with the fiscal cliff.

Pelosi cited her own experience dealing with President George W. Bush’s request to fund the unpopular war in Iraq. A fierce opponent of the war, Pelosi still wanted to ensure that the troops weren’t left high and dry. Her strategy: hold multiple votes. Democrats could go on record as opposing the war, but could still vote to fund it.

“Do you know what it was like for me to bring a bill to the floor to fund the war in Iraq?” Pelosi told reporters on Wednesday afternoon. “It’s tough, but you have to do it if you don’t want to put your members on the spot. Figure it out. We did.”

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Working on the same principle, Pelosi urged Boehner to bring up a bill extending middle-class tax rates under a suspension of the rules, which would require a two-thirds majority to pass—something she thinks is possible. Tax rates for the wealthiest Americans would then automatically go up at year’s end. “It’s painful, but it’s the job he signed up for,” said Pelosi.


Read more: http://tv.msnbc.com/2012/12/12/pelosi-scolds-boehner-figure-it-out/



It is amazing the degree to which the corporate media tries to cover Boehner's weakness. The media plays up Boehner's statements that he is looking to compromise. The media then lets Boehner allege that President Obama is not moving fast emouugh and that its President Obama's job to keep on offering spending cuts until Republicans are happy. All the while, the media ignores the fact that Boehner is repeatedly looking over his back, which is why Boehner is suddenly back pedaling during negotiations and insisting on permanent tax cuts for the rich.

Edit to add: Once again it is very easy to find stories detailing all of the Republican attacks on President Obama, but it was a bit tough to find this story about Nancy Pelosi's statements regarding Boehner or Van Hollan's comments that Boehner is dragging things out until after the Speaker vote, since he is so vulnerable and the Republicans see any deal with President Obama short of complete capitalation as selling out.

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TomCADem Dec 2012 OP
Enrique Dec 2012 #1
freshwest Dec 2012 #6
sheshe2 Dec 2012 #17
krakfiend Dec 2012 #13
calimary Dec 2012 #24
Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #23
Kennah Dec 2012 #2
riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #3
frylock Dec 2012 #4
freshwest Dec 2012 #5
John2 Dec 2012 #7
dballance Dec 2012 #8
macwriter Dec 2012 #9
calimary Dec 2012 #25
defacto7 Dec 2012 #10
Pirate Smile Dec 2012 #11
The Wizard Dec 2012 #15
cbrer Dec 2012 #12
hfojvt Dec 2012 #14
Ash_F Dec 2012 #27
FreeBC Dec 2012 #16
MADem Dec 2012 #19
calimary Dec 2012 #22
Maynar Dec 2012 #18
DallasNE Dec 2012 #20
Angry Dragon Dec 2012 #21
jimlup Dec 2012 #26
Ash_F Dec 2012 #28
TomCADem Dec 2012 #30
madokie Dec 2012 #29

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:24 PM

1. Pelosi seems to know Boehner better than anyone

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/22/nancy-pelosi-boehner-crying_n_786568.html

(...)

"He is known to cry," explained the California Democrat, who was recently elected to lead her party once again when Congress returns in January. "He cries sometimes when we're having a debate on bills."

Pelosi went on to draw a distinction between herself and her Republican colleague.

"If I cry, it's about the personal loss of a friend or something like that," she said. "But when it comes to politics -- no, I don't cry. I would never think of crying about any loss of an office, because that's always a possibility, and if you're professional, then you deal with it professionally."

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Response to Enrique (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:51 PM

6. Call the Wahamublance for that man. They say he's drunk actually.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:07 AM

17. Have you seen the movie 1966...King of Hearts?

Where the Supposedly Insane people were far smarter than then supposedly Sane People that were running the country...Okay I rest my case!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hcv_EJpQzT4


However we can not hide ...we must fight! We have to fight the real fools...Boehner Et all!

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Response to Enrique (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:27 AM

13. She is hot

That's right, give him hell Nancy. Tell him how it is. I think she is a beautiful older woman, I can only imagine how hot she must have looked when she was younger. Wowzer

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Response to krakfiend (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:36 AM

24. Welcome to DU, krakfield! OUR women reps do tend to be! And that beauty is WAY more than skin-deep.

I have seen my share of physically attractive or handsome republi-CON women. However, their views tend to cancel out whatever surface niceness there might be, and render them rather distasteful-looking.

Glad you're here! We need you! Stay vigilant! And keep reminding 'em - WE WON. Elections Have Consequences.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:33 AM

23. THE WEEPING BONER

it could be a social disease or a real shitty politician or just a drunk

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:30 PM

2. Translation, "Please proceed, Fuckstick!"

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Response to Kennah (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:42 PM

3. that is a great line

N/T

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:47 PM

4. boehner's kung-fu is weak

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:49 PM

5. Tom, you're right very hard to find our side in the media. Thanks for these enlightening links.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:07 AM

7. Was

 

this the same guy saying "throw him out of the Bar", He looks like a wimp!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:11 AM

8. Boehner is looking more and more like a goner as Speaker in the next congress

I'm not saying they won't re-elect him to try to look united but he sure isn't looking very popular right now.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:19 AM

9. He already figured it out

He can't do anything before Jan 3 and the new speaker election. So as far as he's concerned we're going off the cliff so he doesn't upset his tea party caucus.

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Response to macwriter (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:40 AM

25. Welcome to DU, macwriter!

Glad you're with us! Thing is, though, he's also facing a new incoming Congress in which two of the biggest, loutish loudmouths - joe walsh and allen west - will be GONE, replaced by DEMS. And they're not the only ones. We gained eight seats! Which means they LOST eight seats. They may still be a majority, but they have no mandate whatsoever. They LOST seats in their precious House majority. They LOST seats in the Senate. And they LOST the White House for a second straight time. His power base is less, just numerically.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:10 AM

10. Thanks TomCADem

We need to see these articles. It's highly appreciated when someone does the footwork to get these links.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:13 AM

11. Yeah, it pisses me off. I've seen stories by Conservatives about how the job of Speaker is weaker

now. I responded on Twitter that Pelosi was a very strong speaker. The position isn't weak. Boehner is weak. The press needs to stop providing him cover for being awful, awful, awful at his job.

The press & pundits like to blather on about Reagan and Tip O'Neil. "Why can't Obama and Boehner be like Tip & Reagan?" Why??? Because Boehner sucks at his job and his caucus is filled with lunatics. Pres. Obama can't make a deal with Boehner because Boehner can't deliver the votes. Obama could deliver a significant number of Dems. Boehner can't do jack.

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Response to Pirate Smile (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:30 AM

15. O'Neil was Speaker of the House

Boner acts like the House Majority leader. The Speaker of the House gets both sides on the same page. The Teabillies neutered Boner. They're political predators.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:13 AM

12. Boehners "weaknesses" can be defined

 

As being consistent to the interests of the cronies and Plutocrats who got him elected.

We must never cease our support of opposing forces on the hill. We must never cede an inch of state territory even in Michigan, until we get this nation back on track. The progressive nature of the United States during the 60s was lost in greed and corruption. We owe it to our kids to get it back.

NEVER give up.

EVER

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:29 AM

14. it's also amazing the degree to which

Democrats have embraced the definition "middle class = people making less than $250,000"

amazing and disgusting.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:28 AM

27. It's amazing how hard repubs fight for people who make more than that.

Not surprising though.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:33 AM

16. Scold? That seems to be a biased term to use.

 

Read that quote. If it had been said by a male would it have been a "scold"?

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:23 AM

19. Absolutely not--there's no "gender" happening with that word.

That's what a teacher -- of either gender -- does to a naughty or misbehaving student.

That is what a parent--of either gender--does to a child who won't take guidance.

It's what any 'superior' (or someone who is acting like a superior, even if they're not) does to a 'junior.'

A few examples:
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978715350

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/teens-to-hear-hazing-sentences

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/23/1148543/the-man-who-scolds-parents.html

Judges love to scold from the bench:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/davidcatanese/0911/Judge_scolds_Walsh_on_child_support_suit.html

http://news.yahoo.com/video/tampawfts-22220379/judge-scolds-lottery-murder-suspect-31238610.html


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xi4sej_judge-scolds-man-caught-with-child-porn_news

It's a didactic thing, not a gender thing.

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:29 AM

22. Maybe not all the time. I remember bill bennett, reagan's education secretary and sanctimonious,

pompous, self-impressed, bombastic ass. He was drug czar for ghwb. Self-appointed, self-anointed Grande High Arbiteur of Morality. Judgmental super-moralistic talk show host, one of the forgettable dime-a-dozen CON radio yapper clones of limbaugh & co. Responsible for the "Book of Virtues" to influence children. A holier-than-thou to this day, even - although he's not making the noise he did a couple-three decades ago. And I heard and saw him described and referred to as "the national scold." That was a great description of him.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:08 AM

18. Why not?

I consider the term "scold" to be gender neutral.

Anyone can scold anyone else. What happens next is in the realm of the gods.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:26 AM

20. MSM Is Getting Marginalized

A recent poll shows that Boehner is getting clobbered on the who's fault is it question on how the negotiations are going. Obviously they are getting their information from sources other than MSM so that is encouraging.

Another point, as the Press Secretary said today, Obama has a nearly 50 page proposal on the table and Boehner dismisses it as an "insult" then lays out his 2 page counter offer that calls for making all of the Bush tax cuts permanent and little else. Boehner is dead whether he stays as Speaker in January or not. He is so ineffective in not being able to "figure it out" that the backlash when we go over the cliff will force him to resign from Congress. Why he can't figure that out boggles the mind.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:29 AM

21. It is not the President's job to sit down with the boner day after day

it is the weeping boner's job to come out with a bill
the republicans control the House ......... let them come out with a bill and then a vote


The weeping boner is probably too drunk to figure any of this out

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:58 AM

26. Thanks for pointing out the media baas

I've noticed that it has been rather blatant. a Either that our the Repukes have gotten good at manipulating them. Probably the latter.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:30 AM

28. The difference is that Pelosi cares about the troops

Boehner never gave a crap about the middle class. Nor the troops for that matter.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #28)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:51 AM

30. Yet, there are some who re-writing these same words as an attack on the President

Through some selective editting and creative placement of her words:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251262111

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:17 AM

29. Boehner is as dumb as a post

I'm convinced of that
Not only is he dumb he is stupid
fuck him

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