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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:14 PM

GOP Congressman Won’t Extend Middle Class Tax Cuts To Avoid Giving ‘Control’ To Democrats

Source: Think Progress

Earlier this week, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) sought to overcome the GOP’s resistance to voting on a Senate-passed measure that would extend Bush-era tax cuts to middle class Americans by introducing a discharge petition that, if signed by 218 members, could force the House to take-up the measure. Some Republicans, weary of the overwhelming public support for raising rates on the richest two percent of Americans, have urged the GOP leadership to allow the vote, but have yet to formally sign Pelosi’s discharge. Republican leadership continues to insist on extending tax cuts for all Americans, while President Obama said he would only sign legislation that would maintain reductions for individuals who earn $200,000 or less and couples who make $250,000 or less.

But in a recent photo-op with constituents, Rep. John Duncan (R-TN) explained why Republicans are refusing to give in. The Tennessee Republican admitted that he won’t vote to extend tax cuts to 98 percent of Americans because doing so would cede control to Democrats.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/08/1305601/gop-congressman-explains-why-he-wont-extend-middle-class-tax-cuts-it-would-give-control-to-the-democrats/



Wouldn't you love being a Republican member of the House? You get to flip the bird to your constituents secure in the knowledge that Freedom Works and billionaires like Koch and Sheldon Adelson will bankroll your campaign.

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Reply GOP Congressman Won’t Extend Middle Class Tax Cuts To Avoid Giving ‘Control’ To Democrats (Original post)
TomCADem Dec 2012 OP
BainsBane Dec 2012 #1
zbdent Dec 2012 #14
BainsBane Dec 2012 #16
freshwest Dec 2012 #54
NHDEMFORLIFE Dec 2012 #15
haikugal Dec 2012 #53
ROBROX Dec 2012 #57
no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #2
SharonAnn Dec 2012 #59
Mel Content Dec 2012 #3
Scuba Dec 2012 #4
Mel Content Dec 2012 #5
TomCADem Dec 2012 #8
Mel Content Dec 2012 #11
patrice Dec 2012 #12
Mel Content Dec 2012 #18
patrice Dec 2012 #25
Mel Content Dec 2012 #27
patrice Dec 2012 #34
Mel Content Dec 2012 #35
dlwickham Dec 2012 #36
Mel Content Dec 2012 #37
dlwickham Dec 2012 #56
janx Dec 2012 #13
David__77 Dec 2012 #17
janx Dec 2012 #21
Mel Content Dec 2012 #19
janx Dec 2012 #28
Mel Content Dec 2012 #30
jberryhill Dec 2012 #51
BainsBane Dec 2012 #20
Mel Content Dec 2012 #22
janx Dec 2012 #23
Mel Content Dec 2012 #24
BainsBane Dec 2012 #38
Mel Content Dec 2012 #39
BainsBane Dec 2012 #43
high density Dec 2012 #46
Mel Content Dec 2012 #47
blackspade Dec 2012 #50
Mel Content Dec 2012 #55
blackspade Dec 2012 #58
Mel Content Dec 2012 #60
blackspade Dec 2012 #61
janx Dec 2012 #6
Cha Dec 2012 #7
AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #9
calimary Dec 2012 #10
Turbineguy Dec 2012 #26
janx Dec 2012 #29
The Wizard Dec 2012 #31
DearAbby Dec 2012 #32
janx Dec 2012 #33
judesedit Dec 2012 #40
titanicdave Dec 2012 #41
fascisthunter Dec 2012 #42
GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #44
fascisthunter Dec 2012 #45
GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #62
McCamy Taylor Dec 2012 #48
love_katz Dec 2012 #49
snogwabble Dec 2012 #52

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:19 PM

1. This should be the center of campaign ads in 2014

It tells the American people all we need to know. Our lives and livelihood mean nothing to the GOP.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:37 PM

14. that, and a commercial with the video of repug senators snubbing wheelchair-bound

Dole to vote AGAINST disabilities benefits, with the voice-over pointing out what they were voting against ...

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Response to zbdent (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:41 PM

16. Yep

Also a good one

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Response to zbdent (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 03:26 AM

54. Yes, both of them. And to top it off, add them signing a trade treaty with Russia.

Remember they are the ones Romney called the greatest threat and those clowns voted for him.

Then they vote for that? Communist world takeover by Obama and the Democrats, huh?

The GOP doth protest too much, methinks,

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:38 PM

15. If I were a rich person ...

I'd make this the centerpiece for an ad right now. Let's slap some high-pressure tactics on these lunatics.

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Response to NHDEMFORLIFE (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:02 AM

53. Why aren't there ads being run now?

We should be hammering on this...

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:50 PM

57. WE DID NOT BRING UP ALL THE BAD THINGS THE GOP ARE IN 2012

 

So we are not smart enough to set the way back machine to review why the GOP is EVIL. We are the political party of GOOD which does not talk about BAD. One of these days our party may be mature enough to remind other of the dirty tricks the GOP plays with the public. We do have the intelligence factor which means it will take a big effort to dumb down the facts so those who do not have the cognizant ability can understand right from wrong.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:26 PM

2. OK, if that's the way he thinks he oughta go . . . .

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:20 PM

59. Unfortunately, he's my congressman. A good stooge for the conservative GOP.

His father was congressman before him and there are those who think that when he retires, his son will win the position.

It seems there's a long history here of political "dynasties" and they are somewhat expected. And the same few people serve on every political or community organization in the area.

Guess they think there's only a very small pool of talent available and that none of the other 99.99 percent of the people could possibly have anything to contributes.

So, political control is held tightly and wielded forcefully. As in, "You and your kin will never work in this town again!", if you cross the Powers That Be.

Interestingly, they haven't had to worry about us Yankee retirees who have moved here because of them vote Republican. They haven't bothered to figure out this is a very Southern, right-wing, religious fundamentalist type of Republicanism.

For these people, it's truly ALL ABOUT THE POWER! Not about effective governing, not about the well-being of their country or even their community. Just POWER!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:28 PM

3. the tax break would be for everyone- not just the middle class.

 

"...President Obama said he would only sign legislation that would maintain reductions for individuals who earn $200,000 or less and couples who make $250,000 or less.

apparently, President Obama needs to take a class in civics, and learn a little about our tax system- the tax breaks would be on the first $200K/$250K of EVERYONE'S income- not just people earning less than that amount.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:37 PM

4. That's not an Obama quote you're citing.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:42 PM

5. i didn't say it was- it's taken right from the article in the op.

 

if the reporter is mis-characterizing what Obama said- they need to step down in favor of someone who knows the job.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:12 PM

8. Actually, you did say that it was something that President Obama said...

Otherwise, why would you insist that President Obama "needs to take a class in civics":

...President Obama needs to take a class in civics, and learn a little about our tax system- the tax breaks would be on the first $200K/$250K of EVERYONE'S income- not just people earning less than that amount

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:24 PM

11. it's what was reported in the article as what he said.

 

I didn't put the words in his mouth.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:32 PM

12. Do you always accept what other people say someone else said without quotation marks? nt

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Response to patrice (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:41 PM

18. if that's what's being reported by a supposedly reputable news source, yes.

 

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:50 PM

25. If quotation marks don't mean anything, why do we have such things in the first place?

FACT #1 about any kind of media: it interprets, paraphrases, synopsizes, some more, some less validly.

The presence or absence of quotation marks are a clue about whether a writer is paraphrasing or not.

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Response to patrice (Reply #25)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:53 PM

27. and as i said earlier-

 

if the reporter is mis-characterizing what Obama said- they need to be told to find a more suitable line of work.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:10 PM

34. So information consumers have no critical responsibilities of their own. We are passive recipients

of what "authority" delivers to us from the seat$$$$ of power.

Not sure that you should be on the internet; you may be in over your head here if you can't regard information as at least to some degree hypothetical, a degree that is significantly affected by the presence of quotation marks.

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Response to patrice (Reply #34)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:12 PM

35. pretty much...

 

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:24 PM

36. bet you didn't think you were going to get a grammar lesson after posting on here huh

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Response to dlwickham (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:26 PM

37. naw...it figures.

 

one has to consider the source...

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #37)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:09 PM

56. I know

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:36 PM

13. Dude, this post makes no sense. Can you elaborate?

Maybe you can explain this better.

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Response to janx (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:41 PM

17. It's true, the tax cut is for everyone.

It is only the marginal income above a certain threshold that will be taxed at a higher rate.

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Response to David__77 (Reply #17)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:46 PM

21. Thanks, I understand that, but that did not appear to be what

he was saying.

I don't know how one can be taxed on $190,000 if one is making $40,000.

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Response to janx (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:43 PM

19. elaborate how...?

 

what doesn't make sense? do you understand how our graduated marginal tax rates work...?

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:53 PM

28. Of course I do. Here:

"the tax breaks would be on the first $200K/$250K of EVERYONE'S income- not just people earning less than that amount"


This is contradictory.

What does this even mean?


The proposal is to extend the Bush tax cuts for people making less than $200K in gross annual income.

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Response to janx (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:57 PM

30. so- you DON'T understand how our tax rates work.

 

the proposal is to extend the Bush tax cuts on the first $200,000 of EVERYONE'S income.

if that's too difficult to understand, perhaps you should take a class in civics.

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Response to janx (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:48 AM

51. No, you are incorrect

The tax cuts to be retained are on the FIRST 250K of income.

That means, if you make 1 million per year, you keep the lower rate on 250K of it.

The reduced rate for income up to 250k is for everyone, whether you make 50 thousand or 50 million.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:43 PM

20. The President knows his own proposal

And has repeatedly made the very point you accuse him of not knowing.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:47 PM

22. that's not how this person reported it.

 

since i wasn't there- i have to rely on what those who were, report.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:47 PM

23. That's what confused me about Mel's post.

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Response to janx (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:50 PM

24. did you read the OP...?

 

what i commented on was taken directly from it.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:31 PM

38. The error is the journalist's

And it is a commonly repeated one, but to insist the President needs a civics class is ridiculous. I'm not sure if your problem is in how you wrote the post or in your understanding of the article.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:39 PM

39. i don't have a problem....

 

other people seem to, however.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #39)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:01 PM

43. You seem very literally minded

That must cause a lot of misunderstanding.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:12 PM

46. It's better for the GOP if people don't understand how our tax system works

The GOP just says "OMG JOB KILLER!" and instead of responding with the facts, the Democrats have no response.

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Response to high density (Reply #46)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:26 PM

47. you'd think that a reporter from ThinkProgress would have a better handle on it, tho...

 

apparently not.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:36 AM

50. Your point is what?

Do you have a problem with raising the rates on income over 200K/250K?
If so, why?


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Response to blackspade (Reply #50)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 10:41 AM

55. how did you ever come to that conclusion?

 

my point is that too many people don't understand how our marginal tax rates work- apparently including supposed "journalists" that cover President Obama for ThinkProgress.

please don't tell me that i have to add you to that list as well.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #55)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:15 PM

58. What conclusion are you speaking about?

I made no conclusion.
I asked you several questions.
You answered one of them.
But you are still blathering on about marginal tax rates and folks lack of understanding.
So what is your point?

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Response to blackspade (Reply #58)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:40 PM

60. the one about me being against raising rates on high incomes.

 

my point's been made.

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Response to Mel Content (Reply #60)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 05:50 PM

61. I never came to that conclusion.

But I guess that is your position?
I just asked the question.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:54 PM

6. Everyone in this guy's district needs to see that video.

It's appalling.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:09 PM

7. That bankrolling against Pres Obama worked out so

so well. Evil Persists but it does get wiped by good when they least expect it.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:16 PM

9. The Democratic Party could have control? That's not what Reid and others have told us.

 

The President, we have been assured, doesn't have real power in the presence of Republican opposition.

If he otherwise had real power, he could pick up the phone, call Rep. John Duncan (R-TN), and tell Duncan that he was going to have to start closing every military base in Tennessee -- starting with the McGhee Tyson Air National Guard Base in Duncan's district.

Unfortunately, however, our President is apparently just a figurehead who can take no action without the approval of Republicans.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:21 PM

10. What a petty bastard!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:52 PM

26. And losing the next election

isn't?

Obama still has the powers the repubs gave to Bush. He could probably send them to Gitmo.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:54 PM

29. So true!

You have to wonder about the logic...(or lack of)...

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:02 PM

31. Republicans are a toxin on the political process

They are self destructive and don't give a damn about who gets hurt from their intransigence. The only solution is to make a stronger effort to remove them form office in 2014.
They may have the majority but the raw numbers show that the majority nation wide voted for Democrats.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:08 PM

32. Tax Bob Crachet, tax Tiny Tim...but please, please don't tax dear old Scrooge - The GOP

Make Bob Cratchet work until he is 70, just dont tax dear Scrooge.
Cut medical costs to Tiny Tim, please dont tax dear Scrooge.
Take the food off the Crachet table, For the love of money dont tax dear old Scrooge.

This is a losing battle for them, they are going to cling to the wealthy to the bitter end. Imagine if the GOP fought this hard to defend your tax cuts...whats that? They are using them as a lever? Middle class is now a pawn in their party game?

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Response to DearAbby (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:10 PM

33. It sure as heck looks that way.

Great metaphor, by the way.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:39 PM

40. Honestly, let them lapse. Get the wealthy paying 1-4% more in taxes. That's good for this country. .

Don't worry the 99% of this country whose taxes are raised due to Republican greed, will rise up. Obama should DOUBLE the amount of the increase in their taxes every time they stall and obstruct. They'll come around. By the way...we are all paying the least tax in 30 years. The 1%-ers are still paying less even when their goes back to being what it was during Clinton. I believe they're paying 37% or so when it used to be 91% at one point. Wake up, people. The GOP knows it will help the country immensly automatically, so they don't dare want it to lapse. All of the people will know the truth and that they've been lied to all of this time.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:40 PM

41. Playing politics

with 98% of the American people's lives.......typical repug bullshit

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:55 PM

42. uppercrust fascist

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:06 PM

44. Why are the nation's suffering people a political football for overfed and undereducated politicians

 

?

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Response to GiaGiovanni (Reply #44)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:09 PM

45. great question.

Would you marry me?

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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #45)

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 02:13 PM

62. Only if you're a Rachel Maddow fan

 

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:40 PM

48. ROFLMAO! Remember the Fed Gov't Shutdown? How well did that work out for the GOP?

They are already digging their own graves for 2014.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #48)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:28 AM

49. Oh, McCamy, let it Be!

Let's help them dig!

I am sure many of us would happily ahem....trickle down on their graves.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:57 AM

52. The scenario.

The problem is that the huge US Federal debt is there. George W. Bush created it when he was President when he had the ' moral high ground ' with 9/11. He incompetantly over-spent on fake patriotism, and he slashed tax for the affluent, in a frenetic Class War. The debt is now out of control. The Democrats have the financial know-how to fix it, and they have the Presidential Office, and the Senate. But the crumby Conservatives have the Congress, and the Conservatives will simply backslide, obstruct, put on righteous conservative attitudes and airs, which are all crass and totally phoney, but they will do this to greedily hang onto their ill-gotten wealth, and indeed continue to raid the Government till in uniteral bargaining relating to House trade-offs. The conservative piggery also have the Fox media entirely behind them, and a declining intelligence quotient across the broader American population.

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