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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:52 AM

Judi Lynn (78,150 posts)

Pentagon reviewing perks, ethics training of top brass

Source: Washington Post

Pentagon reviewing perks, ethics training of top brass
December 8, 2012 12:07 am
By Craig Whitlock / The Washington Post

WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon announced Friday that it will examine whether its generals and admirals receive too many perks and said they should receive more ethics training earlier in their careers.

The measures are a preliminary response to a directive issued last month by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who ordered a review into misconduct by top brass in the wake of investigations involving several leaders, including the commander of the war in Afghanistan.

On Friday, however, the Pentagon gave no indication that sweeping reforms were in store, and officials downplayed a recent string of scandals involving senior officers as isolated incidents.

Pentagon spokesman George Little said Mr. Panetta believes the misconduct is limited to a "very small number" of senior officers. Mr. Little said the defense secretary also has decided to allow the Joint Chiefs of Staff to determine on their own whether further reforms are needed, instead of imposing changes.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/news/us/pentagon-reviewing-perks-ethics-training-of-top-brass-665432/#ixzz2ES7EhOHq

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Pentagon reviewing perks, ethics training of top brass (Original post)	Judi Lynn	Dec 2012	OP
Step one. Stop strutting like soviet era generals with a chest of medals	ChairmanAgnostic	Dec 2012	#1
Petraeus vs. Ike	Lasher	Dec 2012	#3
Form over substance, Take One!	ChairmanAgnostic	Dec 2012	#7
I agree!	Dakota Flint	Dec 2012	#9
Generallisimo Surgy McFeelpantz vs. a real leader	johnfunk	Dec 2012	#13
Why exactly do they need their own private chef and a driver and corporate jets?	dballance	Dec 2012	#2
Exactly.	peacebird	Dec 2012	#4
because they work so hard, and life is so tough, the Pentagon	ChairmanAgnostic	Dec 2012	#8
"The Pentagon gave no indication that sweeping reforms were in store"	jsr	Dec 2012	#5
Snicker.	Solly Mack	Dec 2012	#6
"very small number" - political spin = "oh shite, someone got caught"	johnfunk	Dec 2012	#12
Yep	Solly Mack	Dec 2012	#15
They (the Pentagon and high ranking officers) are MUCH MORE	LibGranny	Dec 2012	#10
Who says government isn't run like a corporation?	randome	Dec 2012	#11
THIS VET HAS A FEW MILITARY AWARDS	ROBROX	Dec 2012	#14
Under normal circumstances, Paetraus would never have risen as far as he did -	Hestia	Dec 2012	#16

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 04:59 AM

ChairmanAgnostic (24,055 posts)

1. Step one. Stop strutting like soviet era generals with a chest of medals

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:12 AM

Lasher (20,555 posts)

3. Petraeus vs. Ike

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:27 AM

ChairmanAgnostic (24,055 posts)

7. Form over substance, Take One!

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:33 AM

Dakota Flint (68 posts)

9. I agree!

Half of these "medals" I suspect are for such heroic courageous accomplishments such as: "Outstandingly holding a full badder during a one hour briefing without whizzing in ones uniform" or "Superior ass kissing of a low IQ Congressman" or "Special merit for increasing defense contract expenses while pretending to be outraged by cost overruns"

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:01 PM

johnfunk (6,008 posts)

13. Generallisimo Surgy McFeelpantz vs. a real leader

Take your pick.

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:44 AM

dballance (3,977 posts)

2. Why exactly do they need their own private chef and a driver and corporate jets?

None of these makes much sense to me for a general or admiral. Especially when we have boots on the ground suffering in the heat and dirty conditions they are enduring in the middle east.

If they feel they need someone to cook for them let them pay for their own cook or go the cafeteria on base somewhere like other service members. Private jets are not cheap to maintain or operate. The only reason I can think of for them having a private jet at their service is if they're flying somewhere that does not have commercial service and they are on military business.

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:26 AM

peacebird (7,531 posts)

4. Exactly.

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:29 AM

ChairmanAgnostic (24,055 posts)

8. because they work so hard, and life is so tough, the Pentagon

realized that it had to train its generals for their new lifestyle after they retire and start their lobbying careers for the military industrial complex. It takes time. Time and effort. Time, effort and money to train someone how to life high on the hog.

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:32 AM

jsr (3,530 posts)

5. "The Pentagon gave no indication that sweeping reforms were in store"

meaning, whatever they're doing is just for show.

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:44 AM

Solly Mack (49,802 posts)

6. Snicker.

"very small number" ("few bad apples")

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:00 PM

johnfunk (6,008 posts)

12. "very small number" - political spin = "oh shite, someone got caught"

That is all.

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:31 PM

Solly Mack (49,802 posts)

15. Yep

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 10:48 AM

LibGranny (472 posts)

10. They (the Pentagon and high ranking officers) are MUCH MORE

accustomed to sweeping things under the rug so as not to "tarnish" the service!

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:11 AM

randome (14,010 posts)

11. Who says government isn't run like a corporation?

This is the same stuff that happens in every company when bad P.R. stuff emerges. Back to ethics training for everyone else. Yet nothing changes.

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:29 PM

ROBROX (392 posts)

14. THIS VET HAS A FEW MILITARY AWARDS

I think their pay should be CUT. They should be REQUIRED to mop and do cleaning like regular military members. They should be REQUIRED to BOW to ALL enlisted members since these are the real working members in the military.
If these old timers can not do the physical stuff required then they should be FIRED.
These over promoted, pompous morons do not impress me or OTHERS.

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Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:40 PM

Hestia (1,723 posts)

16. Under normal circumstances, Paetraus would never have risen as far as he did -

we can thank * for that. Normally, Paetraus would have been lower level senior staff for life, and then retired. It is when the high brass defected (retired) en masse, that * had no choice but to put McKrystal & Paetraus (i dunno if I am spelling their names correctly, don't really care) as top officials in the Iraq & Afghanistan lower-level, junior clerk debacles. Both have proven as to why they would have never be in the history books if all was well in the world. The best and the brightest all said no, I'm not going to do this, I do not want my name attached to the fubar's of all fubar's.

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