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Omaha Steve

(99,609 posts)
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:54 PM Dec 2012

Obama Right-To-Work: President Comes Out Against New Legislation In Michigan

Source: Huffington Post

Sam Stein

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration, in a statement Thursday afternoon, came out against proposed "right-to-work" legislation being pushed by Republicans in Michigan including Gov. Rick Snyder (R).

"President Obama has long opposed so-called ‘right to work’ laws and he continues to oppose them now," said White House spokesperson Matt Lehrich. "The President believes our economy is stronger when workers get good wages and good benefits, and he opposes attempts to roll back their rights. Michigan – and its workers' role in the revival of the US automobile industry – is a prime example of how unions have helped build a strong middle class and a strong American economy."

This isn't the first time the president has had to weigh into the state politics surrounding collective bargaining and labor law. He also spoke out against efforts by Gov. Scott Walker (R) to take away collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/obama-right-to-work_n_2253493.html?1354832828



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President Barack Obama gestures as he speaks to the media during a visit with high school English teacher Tiffany Santana, left, and others, Thursday, Dec. 6, 2012, in Falls Church, Va., to discuss the importance of extending income tax cuts and small businesses. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
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Obama Right-To-Work: President Comes Out Against New Legislation In Michigan (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2012 OP
Yesss! whathehell Dec 2012 #1
Note to Obama: Talks cheap, takes a Justice Dept. to DO SOMETHING MichiganVote Dec 2012 #2
agree...I was blissfully happy two weeks or so ago TruthTeller Dec 2012 #4
WE voted for this administration. Time for Obama to pay more than lip service to us. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author iandhr Dec 2012 #6
'we' also voted in this state legislature and Governor Shadowflash Dec 2012 #15
Well I didn't. The ads that were created to spook people about changes to MichiganVote Dec 2012 #20
Most Michiganders are not union..... llmart Dec 2012 #22
Given the MI legislator is heavily GOP and there is a GOP governor what to you expect the him to do? iandhr Dec 2012 #8
What can DOJ do? democrattotheend Dec 2012 #11
What can the Justice Department do? WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #16
Wrong country, bro. Daniel537 Dec 2012 #17
we didn't get any help in wisconsin either strikeforce Dec 2012 #24
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #25
OK--get your A## and walking shoes to Michigan NOW! nt TruthTeller Dec 2012 #3
Thanks Omaha Steve.. Cha Dec 2012 #7
Collective bargaining Dman292 Dec 2012 #9
Lansing political reporter, Tim Skubic, just suggested that Synder needs fed $$ for his pet project Purveyor Dec 2012 #10
Sounds like there may be some leverage there. n/t whathehell Dec 2012 #12
Can find only one mention of 'the bridge' by a Senator from Detroit: Purveyor Dec 2012 #13
I hope it's relevant, nonetheless. n/t whathehell Dec 2012 #18
Ooh. He made a statement... After the fact... nonoxy9 Dec 2012 #14
they have their walking shoes on to get at marijuana... underoath Dec 2012 #19
But he was silent boomerbust Dec 2012 #21
... woo me with science Dec 2012 #23
Don't blame the president there is nothing he can do. It is up to the doc03 Dec 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author dtom67 Dec 2012 #27
You don't have to protest shut the gd state down. Aren't the doc03 Dec 2012 #29
Yep a one day demonstration ON THE DAY THE BILL IS SCHEDULED TO BE SIGNED..... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #30
The people that gave birth to unions in this country had to fight and doc03 Dec 2012 #32
There will be a backlash against the Fascist Michigan Republicans and this will not endure Coyotl Dec 2012 #28
What was SAID is meaningless. What did he DO ??? blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #31
I love the "so-called 'right to work'" reference primavera Dec 2012 #33
 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
2. Note to Obama: Talks cheap, takes a Justice Dept. to DO SOMETHING
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 07:58 PM
Dec 2012

in Michigan, for Michigan workers and with Michigan families. Not to mention the fact that the most useless head of Education policy for the country has neither said or done anything about the Republican bills to gut our education system.

So just keep talking, cuz' the Democrats in this state are getting nothing for their support of the Obama administration.

TruthTeller

(192 posts)
4. agree...I was blissfully happy two weeks or so ago
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:00 PM
Dec 2012

because I lived in a blue state and blue county then this starts up.

Response to MichiganVote (Reply #5)

Shadowflash

(1,536 posts)
15. 'we' also voted in this state legislature and Governor
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:15 PM
Dec 2012

We also had a chance, this past November, to guarantee worker rights in the state constitution and, for some reason I cannot begin to fathom, the people (workers) voted those guarantees down.

Republicans, not being stupid, (ruthless but not dumb) probably saw that the population of the state was (apparently) not interested in preserving their rights as workers and moved to hurt them and bring them down more.

I really hate to say it but we kinda brought this on ourselves. We had the opportunity to make things like this nearly impossible and blew it.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
20. Well I didn't. The ads that were created to spook people about changes to
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 05:32 PM
Dec 2012

the Michigan Constitution effectively neutered the momentum to protect workers.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
22. Most Michiganders are not union.....
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 07:18 PM
Dec 2012

and most people don't get as worked up about an issue unless it affects them personally. I voted for the right to amend the constitution as did some others I know who are not a part of a union, but even some very educated people I know who are staunch Democrats just didn't think it was the most important issue this election, and yes, they were swayed by the ads.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
11. What can DOJ do?
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 09:29 PM
Dec 2012

Unless there is evidence that Michigan Republicans actually received a quid pro quo bribe in exchange for passing the legislation (regular lobbying/campaign contributions don't count), I don't think there is anything DOJ can do to stop this. Right to Work for Less laws have been repeatedly held not to be preempted by the NLRA.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
17. Wrong country, bro.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:20 PM
Dec 2012

We don't just go around threatening people because we disagree with what they do. Vote the legislature and the Governor out if you want this law repealed.

Cha

(297,177 posts)
7. Thanks Omaha Steve..
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:18 PM
Dec 2012
...Still, the statement is a welcome sign for labor activists, who are trying to turn national attention on to what's happening in Michigan, as the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday:..

Dman292

(44 posts)
9. Collective bargaining
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:33 PM
Dec 2012

The only problem I had with the President in the 1st term was that he didn't go to Wisconsin. I am in NY and was told that his ground workers were assisting in efforts for the workers. I understand it was a political decision with the election coming up but now the election is over and he should show his support for Mi outwardly and go to Michigan. He should also support a national collective bargaining bill.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
10. Lansing political reporter, Tim Skubic, just suggested that Synder needs fed $$ for his pet project
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 08:35 PM
Dec 2012

the new International Bridge connecting to Canada and that perhaps the President could withhold those funds.

He also mentions some rail project in Detroit along Woodward Ave that Synder wants that also requires federal funding.

Finding no details in print yet but 'stay tuned'...

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
13. Can find only one mention of 'the bridge' by a Senator from Detroit:
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 12:18 PM
Dec 2012
"There are going to be some very interesting things that happen in this state if this passes," said Sen. Morris Hood III, D-Detroit. "President Barack Obama has said he is against right-to-work legislation in the state of Michigan. There are some people around here (Gov. Snyder) who want a bridge. They may want to go to him (President Obama) for some money. As my father used to tell me — what's good for the goose is good for the gander."

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/18028

doc03

(35,328 posts)
26. Don't blame the president there is nothing he can do. It is up to the
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:46 PM
Dec 2012

unions to get off their ass and shut down Michigan. This Right to Work law in Michigan is
going to go down in labor history like when Reagan fired the PATCO air traffic controllers. The unions sat on their hands and did nothing. That showed big business in this country the unions would roll over and it has been a race to the bottom ever since. I worked in a steel mill in Ohio when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers, we were willing to walk out to support them and the union leadership wouldn't back us. We need men like Walter Reuther and John L. Lewis again.
If our grandfathers that lost their lives fighting for collective bargaining in this country could see us now they would be ashamed.

Response to doc03 (Reply #26)

doc03

(35,328 posts)
29. You don't have to protest shut the gd state down. Aren't the
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 06:51 PM
Dec 2012

the state workers, DOT, teachers and service people in a union? Go on a slow down, gum up the works, that's how our grandfathers done it. In the mill I worked in if you just followed our management's orders to the T it screwed the place up.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
30. Yep a one day demonstration ON THE DAY THE BILL IS SCHEDULED TO BE SIGNED.....
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:29 PM
Dec 2012

is not enough, no matter how massive the demonstration. It would take continuous demos (think Wisconsin) AND even that didn't work in Wisconsin. We've got to step it up in militancy. A statewide general strike MIGHT do it and that was something that wasn't done in Wisconsin. We need to up the ante.

doc03

(35,328 posts)
32. The people that gave birth to unions in this country had to fight and
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 12:33 AM
Dec 2012

sometimes die for it. I think the movie Matewan was the best I saw about the early union movement. Back in those days they had leaders like Walter Reuther and John L. Lewis that walked the picket lines with their members and got their heads busted sometimes rather than rubbing elbows with management at the Country Club. I think more than anything that has caused the demise of the unions is the leadership is out of touch with its members.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
28. There will be a backlash against the Fascist Michigan Republicans and this will not endure
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 12:16 PM
Dec 2012

But, that is going to take a while. Meanwhile, they are forcing the Dems in Michigan into defensive mode, and a lot of energy that should be positively directed will now be needed to counter their fascism.

primavera

(5,191 posts)
33. I love the "so-called 'right to work'" reference
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 10:15 AM
Dec 2012

"So called" is correct: "right to exploit" would more accurate.

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