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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:46 PM

.Okla. Court Says Abortion Laws Unconstitutional.

Source: ap/nyt

Oklahoma laws requiring women seeking abortions to have an ultrasound image placed in front of them while they hear a description of the fetus and that ban off-able use of certain abortion-inducing drugs are unconstitutional, the state Supreme Court ruled Tuesday.

The state's highest court determined that lower court judges were right to halt the laws. In separate decisions, the Oklahoma Supreme Court said the laws, which received wide bipartisan support in the Legislature, violated a 1992 U.S. Supreme Court case.

The Oklahoma court said it has a duty to "follow the mandate of the United State Supreme Court on matters of federal constitutional law."



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012/12/04/us/ap-us-oklahoma-abortion-laws-blocked.html?hp

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Reply .Okla. Court Says Abortion Laws Unconstitutional. (Original post)
elleng Dec 2012 OP
Dont call me Shirley Dec 2012 #1
DreamGypsy Dec 2012 #2
sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #8
Mrs. Ted Nancy Dec 2012 #12
xtraxritical Dec 2012 #21
LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #3
OKNancy Dec 2012 #9
avebury Dec 2012 #19
madrchsod Dec 2012 #4
madokie Dec 2012 #5
Initech Dec 2012 #6
duhneece Dec 2012 #16
Initech Dec 2012 #17
duhneece Dec 2012 #22
SCVDem Dec 2012 #7
John2 Dec 2012 #10
Mrs. Ted Nancy Dec 2012 #13
davidpdx Dec 2012 #20
LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #11
rocktivity Dec 2012 #14
WillyT Dec 2012 #15
lindysalsagal Dec 2012 #18

Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:49 PM

1. Yoo doggie, love this judicial decision

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:50 PM

2. Great news.

But, of course, they won't be deterred:

From the article:

State Attorney General Scott Pruitt, whose office appealed lower-court decisions that invalidated the laws, said he is considering appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court.

"We disagree with the court's decision, particularly with the fact that the question on whether Oklahoma's Constitution provides a right to an abortion was left unanswered," Pruitt said in a statement.

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Response to DreamGypsy (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:14 PM

8. This SOB

is implying that state law trumps federal law, even the Constitution. Sort of like State's Rights on steroids. This kind of argument has been the cause of much national unpleasantness in the past and pretty much amounts to an appeal for secessionist treason as far as I'm concerned.

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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:50 PM

12. The 14th Amendment

is just a suggestion to Scott Pruitt.

He claims to be a constitutional law expert.



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Response to DreamGypsy (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 11:20 PM

21. The US Supreme Court can simply decide not to hear the appeal and all is moot. So there!

 

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:51 PM

3. Oklahoma? Woww

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:19 PM

9. It's the Oklahoma court. They consistently rule against the nutty laws our legislature passes.

It was not unexpected.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:22 PM

19. Agreed! There is no law too nutty

enough for our state legislature to vote on. It is ridiculous to have a state government more interested in trying to enact unconstitutional crazy laws then to conduct serious business. They are truly a joke.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:53 PM

4. good news.....!


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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:54 PM

5. The tea party is on the way out

And I love it, oh how I love it. YEE HAW
I didn't spend 15 months of my life defending those who supported this law to begin with.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:01 PM

6. Anything to piss off the "pro lifers" - definitely a step toward progress!

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Response to Initech (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:41 PM

16. I think you mean 'anti-choicers'

We want to reframe this issue to one that highlights their opposition to women being allowed to make choices for their own bodies. The R's were very successful 'naming & framing' this issue the way you did--it's time to raise our consciousness to reflect their anti-women point of view.

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Response to duhneece (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:47 PM

17. That's why I put "pro life" in quotation marks.

These people are not in any way shape or form pro life. They kill doctors and don't give a shit if the woman's life is in danger- what kind of pro life is that? They're anti woman if anything else. If you look closer these morons have more in common with the Taliban than you'd think.

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Response to Initech (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 07:53 AM

22. Sorry I missed the meaning of the quotation marks

You are so right-they ARE very anti-women; they don't trust women. I am still riding high because in a recent discussion about abortion, I got a man to admit he didn't trust women. I got him to repeat himself twice. I believe he will replay that conversation in his head (as I did), and realize how he sounds. I 'plant seeds' in conversations like that.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:04 PM

7. I guess Oklahoma

has no homeless or hungry. No orphans or disabled to care for.

Note the term, EXPECTING a baby!

That says it isn't a baby until it's born!

Now please leave womens health alone!

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:26 PM

10. I don't see

 

how he thinks the U.S. Supreme Court will help him.

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Response to John2 (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:52 PM

13. He's a publicity hound

and he is also delusional. That is why the Tea Party types in Oklahoma love him.

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Response to John2 (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:36 PM

20. Don't be so sure of that

While I hope they won't hear the case, you better believe there is a chance they will.

Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, and Alito are chopping at the bit to over turn precedents set by the Supreme Court. Remember awhile back the case on affirmative action was heard in which a previous ruling had supported it. O'Conner's writing for the majority basically stated that she believed in 25 years affirmative action should not be needed (this was in 2002 and I don't remember the name of the case). First, they narrow the law, then they out right overturn it. Keep watching, this is what they are up to.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 08:49 PM

11. Awesome!

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:08 PM

14. CUE THE VONAGE THEME!

OK, you've done OK!!!


rocktivity

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 09:19 PM

15. Wassa Matta, Kansas ???






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Response to elleng (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:02 PM

18. A drop of honey in a vat of sludge.

There were always little pockets of justice even during the worst of the racist lynchings. Yet the lynchings continued.

Crazy just gets crazier when judges use the n-word: No!.

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