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Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:57 PM

 

Senate rejects UN treaty for disabled rights in 61-38 vote

Source: The Hill

A United Nations treaty to ban discrimination against people with disabilities went down to defeat in the Senate on Tuesday in a 61-38 vote.

The treaty backed by President Obama and former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-Kansas) fell 5 votes short of the two-thirds needed for confirmation as dozens of Senate Republicans objected that it would create new abortion rights and impede the ability of people to home-school disabled children.

Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) argued the treaty would infringe on U.S. sovereignty, an argument echoed by other opponents.
“This unelected bureaucratic body would pass recommendations that would be forced upon the United States if we were a signatory,” he said.

Supporters of the treaty argued that the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities would simply require the rest of the world to meet the standards that Americans already enjoy under the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/un-treaties/270831-senate-rejects-un-treaty-for-disabled-rights-in-vote

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Reply Senate rejects UN treaty for disabled rights in 61-38 vote (Original post)
Paul E Ester Dec 2012 OP
elleng Dec 2012 #1
WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #2
FailureToCommunicate Dec 2012 #49
livetohike Dec 2012 #3
PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #4
freshwest Dec 2012 #20
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #54
PatrynXX Dec 2012 #31
struggle4progress Dec 2012 #5
LongTomH Dec 2012 #26
struggle4progress Dec 2012 #39
PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #51
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freshwest Dec 2012 #65
RKP5637 Dec 2012 #55
alp227 Dec 2012 #71
evilhime Dec 2012 #6
KamaAina Dec 2012 #17
alp227 Dec 2012 #72
KamaAina Dec 2012 #7
struggle4progress Dec 2012 #8
Mass Dec 2012 #9
KamaAina Dec 2012 #11
Mass Dec 2012 #14
ieoeja Dec 2012 #21
KamaAina Dec 2012 #22
LeftishBrit Dec 2012 #10
davidthegnome Dec 2012 #12
KamaAina Dec 2012 #13
hughee99 Dec 2012 #24
KamaAina Dec 2012 #27
Bad_Ronald Dec 2012 #15
John2 Dec 2012 #16
DallasNE Dec 2012 #35
hughee99 Dec 2012 #18
Mass Dec 2012 #19
FailureToCommunicate Dec 2012 #50
Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #23
lobodons Dec 2012 #25
Cha Dec 2012 #56
SpartanDem Dec 2012 #28
patrice Dec 2012 #52
pampango Dec 2012 #66
DallasNE Dec 2012 #29
KamaAina Dec 2012 #58
blackspade Dec 2012 #30
SunSeeker Dec 2012 #37
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vlyons Dec 2012 #33
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Berlum Dec 2012 #36
Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #38
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:00 PM

1. Sick WORLD obstructionists.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:03 PM

2. How very 90s.

UN Black Helicopters etc.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:16 PM

49. OTOH, that's when this happened...






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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:08 PM

3. Unbelievable and disgraceful n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:28 PM

20. The GOP cuts Social Security, Healthcare and Human Rights every chance they can

I'm sure they've decided that a great many people are not really human, more subhuman. They've got a narrow defintion of what it means to be human, which means they've picked 'us and them.' They are determined to eliminate any commonality between 'us and them.'

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Response to freshwest (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:26 PM

54. The GOP should be banned from humanity, unfit to serve as human. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:06 PM

31. so it was fillibuster proof but

still not 2/3rds. figures.. usually a vote of 61-38 is well duh a majority.

Rick Santroum refuses to get his fingers off my email so he's been sending me this crap for over a month how he's worried they'll take his daughter away. X_X which is not what the bill is.

now on the rest of the world how does the UN treaty look??

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:14 PM

5. Senate GOP kills disabilities treaty

By Steve Benen
Tue Dec 4, 2012 1:00 PM EST

Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-Kan.) made a rare Senate appearance this morning, sitting in a wheelchair just off the floor so that members would have to see him as they entered the chamber. Why? Because they were poised to vote on ratification of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities, and Dole hoped to send a message.

It didn't work. The Senate killed the treaty this afternoon, with a final vote of 61 to 38, which seems like a lopsided majority, but which fell short of the two-thirds necessary for ratification. Eight Republicans broke ranks and joins Democrats in support of the treaty, but the clear majority of the Senate GOP voted to block it ...

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/12/04/15675104-senate-gop-kills-disabilities-treaty?lite

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:50 PM

26. GOP Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri voted NAY.......to no one's surprise!

Corrupt, unfeeling monster!

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Response to LongTomH (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:32 PM

39. There must be a roll call vote report somewhere, but I can't find it yet

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #51)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:54 PM

63. thanks!

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #39)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:10 PM

65. Politic Averse posted a link to all the names above. By name, state and it shows the party.

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Response to LongTomH (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:28 PM

55. I'm not in Missouri, but he seems a consistent asshole to me. n/t

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Response to LongTomH (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:27 AM

71. At least he won't have Mr. Legitimate Rape to vote with him!

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:15 PM

6. My son has a word for these folks

douchetards

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Response to evilhime (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:25 PM

17. Kind of ironic that "-tard" would be in there

considering that many people with intellectual disabilities (the preferred term) consider the word "retard" to be hate speech along the lines of the N-word.

"Doucherocket" and "douchenozzle" work nicely.

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Response to evilhime (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:27 AM

72. Son's gotta expand his vocab.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:16 PM

7. If only repukes were such isolationists when it came to war.



Disability rights activists worked for years to make this happen. Then Sick Rick Santorum and another religious fanatic (the founder of Patrick Henry College*) jumped in, set up phone banks in megachurches , and poof! All that work down the toilet.

edit: Memo to Harry Reid: When your initial vote on cloture barely gets 60 votes, and you need 66 for final passage, maybe it's not the brightest idea to call for the final vote so soon.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:16 PM

8. Editorioal: Treaty Rights for the Disabled (NYT)

Published: December 3, 2012

... it would encourage other countries to bring their treatment of the disabled up to America’s gold standard, the A.D.A. That is more than enough reason to support it. A broad array of disability-rights groups say also that the treaty’s benefits for disabled Americans traveling abroad, particularly veterans, will be considerable.

Its list of defenders is long and bipartisan, including veterans- and disability-rights groups; the first President Bush; former Attorney General Richard Thornburgh; Senator John McCain; and former Senator Bob Dole, who will be attending a ceremony in Washington before the vote celebrating his advocacy for the disabled. The Senate could do him no greater honor than to ratify this treaty.

The vote is expected to be close, because of an eruption from the right-wing fringe, led by people like Rick Santorum, the former senator, who says the treaty “crushes” American sovereignty and opens the door to bureaucrats taking disabled children from their parents’ arms.

The Senate should ignore such nonsense. America is already ahead of the world on disability rights; it is time for the purveyors of paranoid politics to get out of the way ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/04/opinion/treaty-rights-for-the-disabled.html

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:17 PM

9. Sad but unsurprising. Our side was totally disinterested in this treaty while the RW crowd had

mobilized the Christian homeschooling lobby by telling them that they would take their kids and put them in public schools.

8 Republican Senators were somewhat saner than others: surprised by Barasso and Ayotte, the rest are those I would have expected.

Republican Sens. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.), John Barrasso (Wyo.), Scott Brown (Mass.), Susan Collins (Maine), Dick Lugar (Ind.), John McCain (Ariz.) Olympia Snowe (Maine), and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska

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Response to Mass (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:20 PM

11. By "our side" you presumably mean mainstream Dems without disabilities

Disability rights activists worked their butts off for years to get to this point. All for nothing.

Shows how much influence we have within the Dem party (not very much, considering we held three $100K fundraisers for Obama's campaign), and the repuke party (zilch).

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:23 PM

14. I totally agree. I meant usual people who promote the causes of Democratic activists

Look at the MSNBC line up, where were the segments about this. They had time for segments on the 2016 election, but nothing on that. Same for most lefty blogs. Even here on DU, the few threads posted fell within minutes.

Probably not flashy enough.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:37 PM

21. I can see where you would be angry at Dems since you only got 100% of the Dem vote.


If you really had much influence within the Dem party you would have gotten at least 150%.


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Response to ieoeja (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:42 PM

22. The point was that the Dem establishment spent little or no political capital

trying to work across the aisle to pick up a few more repuke votes.

Ia am, of course, aware what a thankless task that is. Even bringing out Bob Dole accomplished nothing.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:20 PM

10. Uggggh.

I detest such people. I suppose some of it is paranoia about the UN in general - but: you disgusting Republicans, NOT everything is about abortion or religious schooling! Even if you oppose abortion, that's not a reason for rejecting rights for disabled people - or, as in other votes, depriving people of healthcare.

At least I realize on reading it that they needed a 2/3 vote, and that it was 61 for the treaty and 38 against - not, as I thought at first, the other way round; that would have been awful.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:20 PM

12. And so my contempt for republicans continues to grow...

Is there anything good and decent that they DO support?

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:21 PM

13. Congratulations, repukes. Thanks to you, we are still behind Sudan and Syria on this issue.

That's right, Sudan and Syria are signatories. But not us.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:44 PM

24. Yes, but doesn't the treaty set a policy that the US has been following for 2 decades already? n/t

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:53 PM

27. Pretty much

So why not sign it? All this does is leave us out of any further discussions regarding implementation. Fortunately, all the other delegates will be able to get to the UN on NYC's ADA-mandated accessible bus system.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:25 PM

16. So

 

were all 38 Republicans? Now you know what I mean when I say the extreme right wing in Congress. They dictate all our Policies. That is why we are Dysfunctional. They violate sovereign rights every day, so that is just an excuse.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:26 PM

18. Am I misreading this, or does it say that the treaty require signatories to comply with standards

the US has already had in place for 2 decades?

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:27 PM

19. No, you' re not misreading this.

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:19 PM

50. Yup. Since July of 1990...

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:43 PM

23. Despicable, Republicans excel at that, don't they? n/t

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:49 PM

25. R Yea's

4 women (all R women except Hutchinson from TX)
2 R's not coming back (Brown and Lugar)
1 former POW (McCain)
1 old white guy (Barasso)

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Response to lobodons (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:29 PM

56. Thanks for that, lobodons. When I first read it..

I thought 61 voted against it! But, noooo.. 61 was Not enough to pass it!

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:54 PM

28. Pandering to the black helicopter crowd n/t

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:24 PM

52. NAILED. it. - Whipping the Senate into shape for Rand Paul's Pledge of Allegiance to the NRA. nt

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:43 PM

66. "Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) argued the treaty would infringe on U.S. sovereignty.."

The usual "states rights trumps human rights" crowd at world. Fear that the dreaded One World Government will force our government to do things (that are good for actual people) that it does not want to do is a favorite boogey man of the right wing base of the GOP.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 01:59 PM

29. How Many Of Those No Votes Were Cast By Lame Duck Senators? n/t

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:33 PM

58. Alas, all three seats we flipped were Yes votes

Lugar (IN), Snowe (ME) and Brown (MA).

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:00 PM

30. The headline should say:

GOP rejects UN treaty for disabled rights

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Response to blackspade (Reply #30)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:24 PM

37. Exactly! That Hill headline is a lie.

The SENATE voted 61% in favor; it was GOP votes, and only GOP votes, that sunk it. I am so sick of the Repukes not being called out.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:08 PM

32. I think Inhofe and his ilk should

move to Texas and just secede. PS: And don't forget to take shrub with them. I'd gladly sign a petition!

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:09 PM

33. Here's how senate voted listed by state

My TX senators both voted Nay. Both are really sorry excuses for human beings. So much for compassionate conservatism.

Grouped by Home State
Alabama: Sessions (R-AL), Nay Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Alaska: Begich (D-AK), Yea Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Arizona: Kyl (R-AZ), Nay McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas: Boozman (R-AR), Nay Pryor (D-AR), Yea
California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Bennet (D-CO), Yea Udall (D-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Blumenthal (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Delaware: Carper (D-DE), Yea Coons (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Nelson (D-FL), Yea Rubio (R-FL), Nay
Georgia: Chambliss (R-GA), Nay Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho: Crapo (R-ID), Nay Risch (R-ID), Nay
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Kirk (R-IL), Not Voting
Indiana: Coats (R-IN), Nay Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa: Grassley (R-IA), Nay Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Kansas: Moran (R-KS), Nay Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Kentucky: McConnell (R-KY), Nay Paul (R-KY), Nay
Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Vitter (R-LA), Nay
Maine: Collins (R-ME), Yea Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Maryland: Cardin (D-MD), Yea Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts: Brown (R-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota: Franken (D-MN), Yea Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Mississippi: Cochran (R-MS), Nay Wicker (R-MS), Nay
Missouri: Blunt (R-MO), Nay McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Tester (D-MT), Yea
Nebraska: Johanns (R-NE), Nay Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Nevada: Heller (R-NV), Nay Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire: Ayotte (R-NH), Yea Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea Udall (D-NM), Yea
New York: Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina: Burr (R-NC), Nay Hagan (D-NC), Yea
North Dakota: Conrad (D-ND), Yea Hoeven (R-ND), Nay
Ohio: Brown (D-OH), Yea Portman (R-OH), Nay
Oklahoma: Coburn (R-OK), Nay Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Oregon: Merkley (D-OR), Yea Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania: Casey (D-PA), Yea Toomey (R-PA), Nay
Rhode Island: Reed (D-RI), Yea Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina: DeMint (R-SC), Nay Graham (R-SC), Nay
South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Yea Thune (R-SD), Nay
Tennessee: Alexander (R-TN), Nay Corker (R-TN), Nay
Texas: Cornyn (R-TX), Nay Hutchison (R-TX), Nay
Utah: Hatch (R-UT), Nay Lee (R-UT), Nay
Vermont: Leahy (D-VT), Yea Sanders (I-VT), Yea
Virginia: Warner (D-VA), Yea Webb (D-VA), Yea
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia: Manchin (D-WV), Yea Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Wisconsin: Johnson (R-WI), Nay Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming: Barrasso (R-WY), Yea Enzi (R-WY), Nay

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:09 PM

34. PS:sincere apologies to progressive Texans.n/t

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:20 PM

36. Wow - Republicans outdo themselves with their gawdforsaken "values"

How low of them...

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:24 PM

38. Even Bob Dole, fresh out of the hospital, couldn't convince the heartless, obstructionist GOP


Former Senate Republican Leader Bob Dole came to the Senate floor Tuesday to make a personal appeal for lawmakers to ratify a United Nations treaty for people with disabilities.

Dole, who was in wheelchair, came to the floor shortly before senators began to vote. Accompanied by his wife, former Sen. Elizabeth Dole, he listened as Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) made a final push for the treaty. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) walked over to greet Dole, smiling and patting Dole’s back.

In a touching moment, Rep. Jim Langevin (D-R.I.), who also uses a wheelchair and has publicly urged the Senate to ratify the treaty, joined Dole at one point, holding hands with him as they talked and listened to Kerry.

“Don’t let Sen. Bob Dole down,” Kerry told senators, gesturing toward Dole.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/12/dole-makes-appearance-on-senate-floor-151034.html

Maddow had this to say via Facebook:
"The spectacle of Senate Republicans voting against the UN treaty on the rights of the disabled -- and walking past Bob Dole in a wheelchair on their way to do it -- should be news, real and big news."


Dole was on the Senate floor as they cast this vote - you can see him on the right here:

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #38)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:37 PM

41. Such a disheartening, pointless vote. Kudos to Kerry, Dole and Langevin on their personal and

professional support. Along with *every* sitting Dem Senator and, it's worth noting, the 6 Repubs who voted Aye.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:33 PM

40. I'd like to think that this is as low as the GOP could go -

but I'm sure they'll come up with plenty more sick stunts like this.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:40 PM

42. Actual Roll call

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00219

First, lets HONOR those Seven Republicans who did vote for the treaty (Kirk of illinois did not vote, please note it is 2/3 votes of all Senators WHO VOTED NOT all Senators so Kirk non-vote meant you needed 2/3rd of 99 votes instead of 2/3rd of 100 votes, i.e 66 votes instead of 67). I do not need to name the Democrats, they all voted for the treaty.

Ayotte (R-NH)
Brown (R-MA)
Collins (R-ME)
Lugar (R-IN)
Murkowski (R-AK)
McCain (R-Arizona)
Snowe (R-ME)



Here are the NAYS:

Alexander (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-M

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Response to happyslug (Reply #42)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:55 PM

45. mean spirited

Last edited Wed Dec 5, 2012, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)

seems cut and dry. yea or nay. all this bullshit rethug excuse about worrying about a "creeping" 'one world' government being implemented by the voting in of this measure show just how much religion has warped the minds of the human beings in the right wing of our government. Conservatives my ass, snakes is more like it. Their nay vote is truly disgusting. But steph miller is talking about it, so is msnbc, so maybe this will be another nail to be able to send them to a whig graveyard, soon. And they just walked past bob dole. disgraceful. I am truly incensed being partially disabled myself.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:42 PM

43. 2014 will be here before you know it.Vote the free-loading GOP obstructionists OUT of office asap!

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:45 PM

44. That's just nasty

Shame on Alexander and Corker, and every GOPer that voted against this bill.

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Response to politicasista (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:00 PM

47. They have no shame. That's the problem. nt

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:56 PM

46. It's all about religion, folks.

Where is that quote from Barry Goldwater from years ago, about the religious nuts?

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:03 PM

48. The GOP is truly a craven, evil party

I'm beginning to think that they hate America so much that they're trying to destroy it from within. And the primary people within its sights are the poor, elderly and disabled.

How else can someone explain the gutting of programs aimed at the people who need the most help or depend upon social security as thier only source of retirement income?

The GOP now stands for Gutting Our People.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #48)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 06:03 AM

73. This was

 

in my local news paper in North Carolina: N.C. House Leader calls for special session.
North Carolina House Speaker Thom Tillis asked (Democratic) Gov. Beverly Perdue on Friday to call a special legislative session before the end of the year to fix a budget gap that could cause about 1,400 people with mental illnesses to lose their homes.

The crisis was triggered in July when the Republican-controlled Legislature approved a one-word tweak to the state budget that excluded group homes from nearly $40 million fund intended to cushion the effects if medicaid eligibility changes for programs for the disabled.

Advocates for people with mental illness worry that scores of group-home residents will be dumped in homeless shelters or on streets in the middle of winter. GOP leaders and the Democratic governor had disagreed about how to solve the problem before a Jan. 1 deadline.

Republican Tillis made the move to call a Special Session, five days after an A.P. report on a series of emails showing a top Republican budget writer and his staff had been informed about the potential problem in June, days before their approval of the bill that created the funding gap. In recent months, Republicans including Gov-elect Pat McCrory has sought to pin the blame on the Perdue administration.

What does this have to do with the Topic? This is how the Right wing Republican Party operates. They are our Taliban and they are dangerous to this country. That is the way I see it. These people shouldn't be elected to Congress. It wasn't just Allen West or Todd Akins. These people have no definition of the word compromise.

If somebody like Rachel or ED on MS NBC got hold of a story like this on the current Fiscal talks, the right wing Republican Party will be exposed even more. Medicare and Medicaid are not wasteful spending. They have a useful purpose.

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Response to John2 (Reply #73)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 09:04 AM

75. My grandmother ran a group home in NC

And my family would have thanksgiving dinner at the home with the residents.

There were eight people who lived in the home, and for most of them their family would visit only once or twice a year, if that. All off the residents were older women, and one person who lived there, Sandy, was blind.

The residents formed a family that cared about and for one another. We got to know each of them as individuals. The group home wasn't just a group house or hotel. It became their home and family in every sense.

But I would never have had exposure to a group home or the people who lived there had my grandmother not started and managed it.

And I believe that's what the GOP takes advantage of - the idea that for most people, the residents were anonymous, faceless and nameless. The GOP speaks about them as a number. Many people don't think about the consequences of reducing funding or eliminating group homes. Like you wrote, many of the residents would be put out on the street or put in a nursing home. The family gets ripped apart. It breaks my heart.

I became friends with Sandy over the years, and we would exchange gifts each Christmas. She passed three years ago, and I miss her.

My blood boils at the callousness and cruelty that defines the modern GOP. Policy has a face, and to republicans, the weakest and neediest in our society are tax burdens to be discarded so the rich will become more wealthy.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:24 PM

53. Yep, sooo human-like, kick around those that need help, are disabled and disadvantaged in this

little fringe area of the universe called earth, a spinning little dirt ball.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:32 PM

57. I emailed my Senators

Not that it helps, considering they are slime from Georgia. I happened to mention in my email that their brand of Christian Compassion is disgusting!

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:34 PM

59. C'mon clue-by-four, the Senate needs you.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:39 PM

60. Canada signed it.

and was one of the first countries to sign. Even with our conservative Harper at the wheel..

Up here we like to think that we are all in this boat (or blue marble) together.....

Lots of people's heads shaking at the American's decision....very Any Rand.

How sad.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:48 PM

61. Explain to me again why we are supposed to rush to compromise with these creatures.

Next Democrat who says 'bipartisanship' in my presence or urges compromise for the sake of compromise will be declared delusional.
The treaty contains nothing that has not been US law since 91 when Republican HW Bush signed our version. A Republican signed it. Yet they voted no. They are vile, vicious hypocrites.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #61)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:52 PM

81. +1000

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:50 PM

62. Sen Inhofe is worried that this body would force the US to do things we might not want.

You mean like the Geneva Convention you clown.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:05 PM

64. Sad news.

And, it is shot down for stupid reasons.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:43 PM

67. Bad Vote

 

Really bad and ugly vote.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 06:52 PM

68. The lesson we should take from this:

Outsiders--and I do mean outsiders--like Santorum, Norquist, etc. need to be dealt with more than those inside the marble columns. It seems like these pricks reek more havoc than actual elected officials.

I suppose I should be heartened that Ayotte...and even Grampy were with us on this one. Maybe that bodes well for disablility legislation down the road. That said, I am sick of unelected officials that have too much influence.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:14 PM

69. What does this treaty do that the ADA doesn't do?

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #69)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 08:24 AM

74. ... The treaty is based on existing U.S. law. Its advocates argue convincingly that nothing

in the U.S. would need to change as a result of the treaty's adoption ...

Ratifying this treaty would show that the U.S. remains committed to lead on access for the disabled. The U.S. has been leading since Congress passed the Americans with Disabilities Act in 1990 ... More than 50 million Americans, and an estimated 10 percent of the world population, live with disabilities.

The wheelchair ramps, sidewalk cutouts and handicapped parking that have become part of the landscape in the U.S. are practically unknown in many parts of the world. Disabled Americans traveling overseas often encounter severe obstacles. In developing countries, children with disabilities go without even simple accommodations.

The U.N. treaty was negotiated under President George W. Bush and signed by President Barack Obama ...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-disability-1204-jm-20121204,0,4272312.story

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #74)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:20 AM

78. Are there any mechanisms for enforcement

 

for other countries?

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Response to AlexSatan (Reply #78)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:38 AM

79. Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #79)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:45 AM

80. Thnx

 

I admittedly was just being lazy.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 07:17 PM

70. what would jesus do?.....

i`d say he`d kick their fucking asses...



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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 09:11 AM

76. This is what happens when you believe in the UN Black Helicopters BS.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 09:28 AM

77. These people are truly lunatics

and they are steering this country and ruining this country.

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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 10:01 PM

82. More true evil from the Repukes

Just when you are thoroughly disgusted at how low they have stooped, they stoop even lower for an encore. Blah blah blah sovereignty blah blah blah. Such evil on their part is going to finally reduce them to a small, regional party and eventually they will find themselves in dustbin of history, which is too good for them.

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